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Looking for my gg grandfather John McCauley, he married Isabella Simple around 1850 in County Down, near Kilwarlin.N.I.
John was born in 1830 and i have no recored for Isabella.
I assume they were married in or around 1850 and had a son my great grandfather James Patrick McCauley, born Sept 3rd, 1851 in Ballyknock, county down, n.i.
James married a Susannah Law on June 24th, 1882 in Kilwarlin.
They had 10 children, Martha Jane, b, Nov 7, 1883,James Joesph,b, Dec 15, 1887, Lilian Madeline, b, May 29, 1891, Richard John, b, dec 6, 1893, Frances, b, May 12, 1896, Cecilia, b, July3, 1899, Susan May, b, Mar 23, 1890, Teresa Joesphine, B, June 21, 1898, Geraldine Burnadette, b, April 8, 1903 and Wilfred Gerard, b, Jan 8, 1905.
Any info on the above would be greatly appreciated.
txs, Frank
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Hello Frank,
I realise it's some time since you last logged on but if you're reading the threads that you opened do you know the denomination of John and Isabella? You'll have to rely on Church Records when searching for details about them as they were born and married before Civil Registration was introduced in Ireland in 1864.
Ballyknock is a townland in the parish of Moira and Kilwarlin is a small townland lying between the parishes of Hillsborough and Moira.
Christopher
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There are very few Simples in ireland the one I spotted was in newry, I would expect spelling for your query is more likely to be Semple. Jim
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UPDATE from Frank ( Francis) John McCauley
I have since discovered that my GG Grandmother's name was ISABELLA SEMPLE. not Simple.
I think her birth date would be around 1830 in or around Balleymena, County down.
Thank you Jim.
She married my GG Grandfather John Richard McCauley in or around 1850.
I am sure they had more that 1 child. The only record i have is their son
James Patrick McCauley born April 10, 1851 in Ballyknock, County Down N.I. He
died November 5, 1943 in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, He married Susanna Law in or around June 1883 in Kilwarlin, N.I.
I believe James Patrick immigrated to Ontario, Canada in or around 1884 /1885.
I cannot get back any further that the above. I have both Ballyknock and Balleymena listed in the family bible.
I would appreciate any info and or connection to the above McCAULEY and SEMPLE families.
I obtained this information from our family bible that is now in my possession.
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all from freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/
Ballymenagh Dunsford . a townland 2km NW of Dunsford village; 292 acres ; click here to see its location on a townland map V17 p 72 OSM
Ballymenagh House Dunsford 21: 55/43 farm; 5km N of Ardglass; residence of Robert McComiskey in 1865 PRONI Wills
Ballymenagh Holywood 15:42/79 a townland 2km E of Holywood; 845 acres; click here to see its location on a townland map; a range of hills 600 feet above sea level runs through this townland; contained a windmill; the proprietors in 1834 were Cunningham Gregg & Reilly Blackwood Esq.; there were 41 houses,40 families, 31 employed in agriculture, 3 in trades, 6 in other occupations, 236 total inhabitants, 117 males, 119 females, 59 males above 20; 8 farmers employing labour,17 labouring farmers, 21 labourers employed by farmers, 2 capitalists, 2 males unemployed, 6 male servants above 20, 13 female servants, 3 employed in handicrafts; new road built 25 Jul 1885 V7 p 73, 77, 79 OSM; DR
Ballymenagh House
Ballymenoch House Holywood . house & farm estate of 146 acres & gentlemen's residence in 1834; 1 km E of Holywood village; held in fee by Thomas Gregg in 1863 V7 p 74, 76 OSM, map; GV
As Christopher says Ballyknock is a townland in the parish of Moira and Kilwarlin is a small townland lying between the parishes of Hillsborough and Moira.
Samuel McCAULEY . Hillsborough husband of Isabella Dornan; father of William John b. 29 Mar 1868 CR
James SEMPLE . Holywood & Knockbreda of Ballymiscaw then Knocknagoney then Holywood ; a servant then labourer; husband of Martha Rea; father of Mary Elizabeth b. 24 Nov 1868 & regd. Castlereagh, Mary Elizabeth (sic) b. 14 Jan 1871 & James bpt. 1875 & Margaret A.pt. 1876 & John bpt. 1878 & Thomas bpt. 1881 & Henry bpt. 1885 & Ellen Jane bpt. 1886 at 1st Holywood Presbyterian Church CR; PR
William SEMPLE . Holywood of Strandtown; a coachman; husband of Matilda Steenson ; father of Agnes Mary bpt. 1893 & Matilda bpt. 1895 at 1st Holywood Presbyterian Church PR
So not much good so far, I will come back again if I find anything good, Jim
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Is emerald ancestors any good to you?
http://www.emeraldancestors.com/
this is the link to Ros Davis as mentioned by BallyaltikilliganG
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/
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Looking in more depth at Kilwarlin
from Ros Davies Co Down website ie freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/PLACENAMES/K.htm#Kilm
Kilwarlin Hillsborough . 4km SW of Hillsborough town; a large district in 1575 held by Rory Magennis & manor here in 1641; a new parish; also see Corcreeny townland; Church of Ireland, Moravian & Catholic churches here; Sabbath school 31 Dec 1836: seat of the Marquis of Downshire 21 Oct 1837: new church St Johns 4 May 1839: meeting of tenantry 2 Mar 1850: Catholic Parochial House; Farming Society 15 Aug 1863; meeting of tenants 1 May 1869; opening of Orange Hall 8 Nov 1879; Kilwarlin Cottage here V12 p 68,99 OSM; UHF V18; old b/w map K5; PNNI V6 p 12, 13;LR 2005 p 12
Looking in more depth really to see if church records might exist
from Ros Davies Co Down website ie freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/CHURCHES/A-I.htm#Hillsborough
Hillsborough 20: 21/59 Church of Ireland;St. John's Chapel of Ease in Upper Kilwarlin, in Corcreeny townland St. John's Rd, Hillsborough, 6km SW of Hillsborough; click herefor a photo & more information .
Hillsborough Church of Ireland; St. James Chapel of Ease in Lower Kilwarlin, Ballykeel Artifinny townland, Lony Rd, Hillsborough ; click here for a photo & more information .
Hillsborough 20: 21/57 Kilwarlin Moravian Chapel in Corcreeny townland, on a by-road 1km south of Hillsborough-Moira road; click here for a photo and more information .
Hillsborough 20:23/59 Catholic; Kilwarlin Reilly’s Trench townland, on the main road between Hillsborough and Moira; graveyard attached ,gravestones UHF Vol 18, oldest stone 1831; photo in Vol 18 UHF; email me for a gravestone look-up;click here for a photo & more information
the Presbyterian churches are not close ie
Hillsborough Presbyterian in Lisburn Street, in the north end of Hillsborough town; click here for a photo and more information .
Hillsborough/ Annahilt Presbyterian in Ballykeel- Ednagonnel townland; called Annahilt / Loughaghery Meeting House; see under Annahilt
However I think I will suggest that the first names suggest a catholic influence for the Kilwarlin lines so I suggest you focus on St. Colmans' Catholic Church, Kilwarlin on the main road between Hillsborough and Moira where the records are baptisms from 1812; graveyard attached , gravestones UHF Vol 18, oldest stone 1824; email me Ros Davies for a gravestone look-up; the graveyard surrounding the chapel is enclosed with a quickset fence and the entrance is from the road by an iron gate
keep going, Jim
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Susanna Law (married James McCauley) was a sister of my great grandmother Elizabeth Law. Their father was John Law (died 11 May 1892) and their mother was Jane Mulholland. John and Jane were married on 13 June 1852 in Moira, Church of Ireland. They had 5 children, Martha Jane, James, John and the above mentioned Susanna and Elizabeth.
My great grandmother married John McCluskey on 8 February 1898 in St Colman's Catholic Chapel, Kilwarlin. Her brother John married Elizabeth Quinn in Armagh on 20 Feb 1876.
My grandfather's cousin,Henry Magennis, married Alice McCauley in St Colmans, Kilwarlin, on 7 July 1878. The witnesses were James and Sarah McCauley. They had one child, John Edward. Alice died in 1879.
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Hello,
Would like to learn how to locate the cemetery and family headstone in Drumcaw, Clough, Down, mostly for the parents, William & Ellen (McCormick) McCauley.
1901 Ireland Census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Clough/Drumcaw/1226637/
1911 Ireland Census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Clough/Drumcaw/235924/
Regards,
Dan
London, Ontario
Canada
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Looking for my gg grandfather John McCauley, he married Isabella Simple around 1850 in County Down, near Kilwarlin.N.I.
John was born in 1830 and i have no recored for Isabella.
I assume they were married in or around 1850 and had a son my great grandfather James Patrick McCauley, born Sept 3rd, 1851 in Ballyknock, county down, n.i.
James married a Susannah Law on June 24th, 1882 in Kilwarlin.
They had 10 children, Martha Jane, b, Nov 7, 1883,James Joesph,b, Dec 15, 1887, Lilian Madeline, b, May 29, 1891, Richard John, b, dec 6, 1893, Frances, b, May 12, 1896, Cecilia, b, July3, 1899, Susan May, b, Mar 23, 1890, Teresa Joesphine, B, June 21, 1898, Geraldine Burnadette, b, April 8, 1903 and Wilfred Gerard, b, Jan 8, 1905.
Any info on the above would be greatly appreciated.
txs, Frank
Thereis a marriage in County Down in 1850 for an Isabella Semple att www.ancestryireland.com . About £4 should buy you the details.Due to the different ways of spelling McCauley , I think it would be better to explore using Isabella's details
Good luck
OTTO
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Hi , my family came from Ballyknock ,the bane is Law , started off in 1760 with Isaak Law , 1786',James Law , then 1814 Pierce Law ,all married in St Johns Cof I Moira , all came from massive families , I have all the names if anyone is interested ,or could educate me ,a Thanks .
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I don't know much about the McCauley side but Susanna Law's brother James is my GreatGrandfather. Their other siblings were Elizabeth McCluskey (who also married and moved to Canada), John and Martha Jane.
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McCamley or McCauley ?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1882/10966/8008317.pdf
Richard death 1900 informant widow Jane
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1900/05764/4628882.pdf
widow 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Moira/Ballyknock/1243030/
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Martha 1865
https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?father_givenname=richard&father_surname=mccamley&mother_givenname=jane&collection_id=1584963
married James Catney 1889
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1889/10740/5916211.pdf
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Falls_Ward/Waterville_Street/981720/
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Martha Jane McCamley born Nov 7th 1883 to James McCamley,Toronto,Ontario and Susannah Law ,Ballyknock. informant Elizabeth Law,Aunt
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1883/02717/1999902.pdf
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McCauley, McCluskey and Law 1911
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:27XX-1RT
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Miss Joanna (Latin for Jane) Miles married Richard McCamley 10th Aug 1844
A son Richard born 1868 as McCauly
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https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1868/03423/2255981.pdf
http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~rosdavies/genealogy/SURNAMES/M/Mi.htm
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Welcome to RootsChat :)
I don't know much about the McCauley side but Susanna Law's brother James is my GreatGrandfather. Their other siblings were Elizabeth McCluskey (who also married and moved to Canada), John and Martha Jane.
The links found by dathai in reply #12 show the townland of Ballyknock.
https://www.townlands.ie/iveagh-lower-upper-half/moira/ballyknock/
KG