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Hello all- I don't know if you'll be able to help but I'm trying to pin down my Maylors & they've been nothing but trouble!
I'll give you the full (& somewhat confusing!) details that I have!!
1861 Living Gildarts Buildings,Gildarts Gardens, Liverpool
BERNARD E. MAYLOR- head-age 40- bricklayer
Elizabeth Maylor-wife-36
Children (in order of birth) William (1844), Edward (1846),James (1849),Elizabeth(1852),George (1858)
Bernard E. Maylors first name is actually Edward so we don't know where the Bernard came from- can't find any Bernard Maylors anywhere but it's down on the original image!!
Back to 1851-
46 Victoria Street, Everton
No Bernard E. ,No Edward bernard - we presume he was away working!
Elizabeth Maylor-head-Mar-26- stone masons wife
children- William(1844),Edward (1846), James (1849), Thomas (1850).
Also in house Sarah Ducker- sister- unmar-age 20
James Ducker- nephew- 3 months
On both census All listed as born Liverpool
We have the marriage of Edward Maylor (Bernard!!!) to Elizabeth Ducker in March 1843 at St Pauls church.
Can anyone find the elusive, unmarried Edward/Bernard on the 1841 census, we think his father was a William, possibly born circa 1788 (can't remember where I got that little nugget from could have been family search!) but the only William christening we can find is in 1797 at St Nicholas, Liverpool on the IGI & extracted from records.
I'm probably asking the impossible- but any help would be very much appreciated.
Thank you from a very confused Woodydog!!
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Hi
I don't think this is going to help you very much but here goes.
The 1841 Liverpool name index has no Bernard Maylor listed. there is only one Edward aged 26 occ bricklayer and he appears to be in lodgings as there is no other Maylor on the family group.
The piece number is 558/12 folio 36A if somebody can do a full lookup.
If it's any consolation, the 1841 will probably be online later this year - Ancestry are already showing it as a "forthcoming attraction"
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Thanks very much for looking carole, I knew that it would a long shot but maybe I can look for death of William Maylor between 1837-41 and at least we know there aren't any Bernard Maylor s in Liverpool ! Shame the age doesn't match to any great extent but heck if he and his family couldn't work out what he was called it's unlikely that anyone would know when he was born ;D!
Thanks ever so much once again- I'll hang fire for ancestry and then probably go completely bonkers!!!
Woodydog
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I know this was posted a while ago but am now looking beyond MyHeritage site on forums to see if I get beyond. From my family tree I have William Maylor born 1778 Liverpool who died in 1841 and his wife Martha born 1778 and died 1831.
They had a son Edward Maylor born 1819 died 1888- Wife Elizabeth Ducker b,1826 1897
I was wonder if you'd been able to find William Maylor birth/christening 1778? I can't find anything and makes me think he's was born somewhere else. I've heard stories from my father that four brothers came from Wales as Maylor's are my parental line. So am keen to see if I can find where they came from beyond 240 years in Liverpool.
Slight mad but William Maylor got married to Martha in St.Nicholas Liverpool 1797. I work in office building opposite St Nicholas (called the Seaman's church) in Liverpool. Though it was rebuilt in early 1800s.
Any inform would be good to know. I've not figured out how to message you directly.
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Baptism: 19 Apr 1846 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Edward Maylor - [Child] of Edward Maylor & Elizabeth
Abode: Hanley St
Occupation: Brick Setter
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Baptism: 16 Feb 1857 St John, Preston, Lancashire, England
Thomas Maylor - [Child] of Edward Maylor & Elizabeth
Abode: Sedgwick St
Occupation: Brick Setter
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Baptism: 27 Sep 1858 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
George Maylor - [Child] of Edward Maylor & Elizabeth
Born: 3 Jan 1858
Abode: Prudhoe St.
Occupation: Bricklayer
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Baptism: 1 Apr 1867 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Walter Maylor - [Child] of Edward Maylor & Elizabeth
Born: 3 Mar 1867
Abode: Everton
Occupation: Bricklayer
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Baptism: 23 Jun 1873 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Richard Mailor - [Child] of Edward Mailor & Elizabeth
Born: 5 Apr
Abode: Prince Edwin St.
Occupation: Brick Setter
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Baptism: 26 Jun 1878 St Ambrose, Everton, Lancashire, England
Henrietta Maylor - Daughter of Edward Maylor & Elizabeth
Born: 18 May 1878
Abode: 1 Court 1 House Prince Edwin St
Occupation: Brick Setter
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SO - this tells us children baptised over THIRTY TWO years to Edward and Elizabeth - so is it 2 couples or one ??... coincidence they are both Bricklayers and both have a wife Elizabeth - or - is it one couple ??? a strange one indeed
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is this William and Marthas marriage ?
Marriage: 10 Apr 1797 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
William Maylor - (X), Sawyer, Liverpool
Martha Threlfall - (X), Spinster, Liverpool
Witness: Tho. Wright; William Fairhurst
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Garstonite,
The two younger children in your list are the children of Edward Maylor and Elizabeth Forrestill. That Edward is the son of Edward.
Heywood
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1841 census Gildart St Liverpool HO107/558/3/14
William Maylor 65 sugar baker (not of county)
Mary Maylor 40 (Scotland)
Mary Maylor 6 (Lancs)
William Maylor 10 (Scotland)
Margaret Maylor 6m (Lancs)
This would appear to be a second marriage 1833 St Nicholas (Lancs OPC) and would fit with the death of Martha 1831.
Sugar workers travelled between Scotland and Liverpool regularly, often working for the same family concerns (eg Macfie).
Added ... St Nicholas regs show Mary a widow.
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Thanks Heywood - I thought as much - and I know Prince Edwin Street - it is still there - on the edge of the City Centre - must have been pretty new buildings then - couldn't see Elizabeth having kids aged around 52 - ..lol
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and for the record
there is a big family of Maylor in Speke ,Liverpool .
Speke estate was started in 1937 - a lot of houses around the City Centre were demolished and many families came to new houses with gardens in Speke .
I know the family :)
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... and 1841 census Dover St Toxteth Park HO107/568/15/23
William Maylor 65 labourer
Mary 65
Elizabeth 20
Margaret 11
(all Lancs)
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is this William and Marthas marriage ?
Marriage: 10 Apr 1797 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
William Maylor - (X), Sawyer, Liverpool
Martha Threlfall - (X), Spinster, Liverpool
Witness: Tho. Wright; William Fairhurst
Laughing Boy - a warm welcome to Rootschat
i have a question for you - you say William and Martha were born 1778 - this would make them 18 0r 19 at their marriage - NORMALLY if bride and groom were under 21 it would state MINOR on the marriage record - it only gives an X which usually meant they couldn't sign their name - couldn't read or write - SO - is it possible William and Martha were born before 1778 ?? maybe at least 3 years before ???
Martha was 4 months pregnant when they married
Baptism: 9 Oct 1797 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
William Maylor - Son of William Maylor & Martha (formerly Threlfall), his wife
Born: 17 Sep 1797
Abode: Fairhurst street
Occupation: Sawyer
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Are we saying that William Walter Maylor born 1867 is the son Edward Maylor born 1845 and not 1819? I can't see record of his birth. It would seem there are a lot of William/Edwards in multi generations of Maylor so makes it more difficult to trace.
Until the 1960's my branch of the Maylor lived around Everton around where the Water Tower is, Campfield and Breck Road. My Dad moved out of Liverpool to Wirral in late 60's though lots of the family still live in Liverpool.
My original post was to see if I get more info on William Maylor married 1797. I know he's a Sawyer but still don't have proof of where he was born
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There is a Walter Mayor b 1867 with mother’s maiden name Ducker.
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is this William and Marthas marriage ?
Marriage: 10 Apr 1797 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
William Maylor - (X), Sawyer, Liverpool
Martha Threlfall - (X), Spinster, Liverpool
Witness: Tho. Wright; William Fairhurst
There is also the marriage of William Maylor, Mariner and Mary Tellitt ?
21st August 1797, St Nicholas.
These may be the 1841 family posted by sugarbakers earlier - reply #10
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is this William and Marthas marriage ?
Marriage: 10 Apr 1797 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
William Maylor - (X), Sawyer, Liverpool
Martha Threlfall - (X), Spinster, Liverpool
Witness: Tho. Wright; William Fairhurst
There is also the marriage of William Maylor, Mariner and Mary Tellitt ?
21st August 1797, St Nicholas.
These may be the 1841 family posted by sugarbakers earlier - reply #10
... leaving William the sawyer to be the William mentioned in reply #7. Being a sugar baker was undoubtedly labouring ... and he was living in Gildarts St.
Maybe.
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I can't find anything and makes me think he's was born somewhere else. I've heard stories from my father that four brothers came from Wales as Maylor's are my parental line. So am keen to see if I can find where they came from beyond 240 years in Liverpool.
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Hello LaughingBoyNorth, I'm the original poster about the Maddening Maylors. I believe you have just broken down one of my brick walls regarding William & Martha but I'll have to check when I'm slightly more awake :) I may (or may not!) have a lead regarding the Wales part of your mystery. To be honest I've never really got my head around it and relates to Elizabeth Ducker rather than the Maylor name. Elizabeth Ducker's mother was Mary, maiden name Roberts. She married a James Ducker in 1822 in Liverpool. Allegedly her mother was Elizabeth who lived to be over 100 years old and was from Northop,Flintshire and at one time lived in Bagilt ,Flintshire. Maybe that might tie in with Maylors being Welsh and being from a similar area.. somehow??? There's also another very tenuous suggestion of of Maylors having connections to Denbighshire via Walter Maylor born 1867/68 ish but that one is even less of a guess!!! I have some information that I could send you to see if you can make head nor tail of it and possibly make things clearer. I now have brain freeze and think I need a coffee ;) x
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a couple in Bodolph ,London - but the vast MAJORITY of Maylor 1500-1600 are Bristol , Gloucestershire
this looks to be the firstin Lancashire I can find
Baptism: 13 Apr 1662 St Leonard, Padiham, Lancashire, England
Mary Maylor - daughter of John Maylor
Abode: Higham
Source: Original Parish Register
10 years after the Civil War finished - it may be that Maylor was a soldier and settled in Lancashire after the Civil War ?
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Hello LaughingBoyNorth, I'm the original poster about the Maddening Maylors. I believe you have just broken down one of my brick walls regarding William & Martha but I'll have to check when I'm slightly more awake :) I may (or may not!) have a lead regarding the Wales part of your mystery. To be honest I've never really got my head around it and relates to Elizabeth Ducker rather than the Maylor name. Elizabeth Ducker's mother was Mary, maiden name Roberts. She married a James Ducker in 1822 in Liverpool. Allegedly her mother was Elizabeth who lived to be over 100 years old and was from Northop,Flintshire and at one time lived in Bagilt ,Flintshire. Maybe that might tie in with Maylors being Welsh and being from a similar area.. somehow??? There's also another very tenuous suggestion of of Maylors having connections to Denbighshire via Walter Maylor born 1867/68 ish but that one is even less of a guess!!! I have some information that I could send you to see if you can make head nor tail of it and possibly make things clearer. I now have brain freeze and think I need a coffee ;) x
sorry to burst your bubble - but the Ducker family have been in Liverpool since before the Civil War
Prescot is part of Liverpool - though it wasn't then - Prescot to Liverpool City Centre is 8 miles
Marriage: 16 Dec 1638 St Mary, Prescot, Lancashire, England
Will[ia]m Ducker -
Isabell March -
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It's Mary ROBERTS (who married the Ducker) that is the link.. ;)