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General => The Common Room => The Lighter Side => Topic started by: nadiawalton on Friday 10 March 06 13:27 GMT (UK)
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Hi again all!
Hope you are not getting annoyed with me asking so many questions :) this is the first site I have found that people actually get back to you about queries!
I have a distant ancestor called William SYKES (which is a man i cannot find at the moment!) and he was born in a place called Ron Chapel (so another distant new found relative says!)
Apparently there was a well known chapel in Bradford called Iron Chapel.
Anyone ever heard of it? I have been unable to find any information on it at all!
How very frustrating!
Any ideas welcome, the madder the better :) !!
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When was this chap born?
Is his place of birth (on census?) always this Iron/Ron Chapel?
PB
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If you look on
http://npor.emma.cam.ac.uk/Reporter/jan86/b186.htm
there is mention of Eastbrook Chapel, Bradford being of cast iron construction - maybe it was known locally as "Iron Chapel"
Good luck
Ellen
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When was this chap born?
PB
approximately 1840/1841
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And the answer to the other question?
We' need as much as possible to give context.
PB
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Apologies for the late reply!
On his census it says Iron Chapel. Sorry I don't have any more info, I've never seen the census records it was a long distant new found relation of mine that has given me this info!
Thanks!
Nadia
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How many census(es) do you have him on?
1881 should be about the fifth one he appears on.
PUT the 1881 on IN FULL WITH HOUSEHOLD if you do not have the others, and an attempt to trace hiom on other returns can be made.
PB
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In the 1881 census William is living in Altofts. I have a feeling he is on another census too but as I haven't the information with me, I would hasten to guess which one it is!
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There is a William Sykes, a widower aged 31, miner, who was born in Bon Chapel, Yorkshire living in Altofts in 1871.
RG10/4617/99/10
In 1881 his birth place is given as Midbertown, Yorkshire - that's what the image looks like. RG11/4573/120/65
Cheers
K.
:)
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I think this may well be him thankyou!
where did you get this information from, is it easily accessable?
Those reference numbers, are they the census ones? sorry about this I'm a bit new to this whole census thing :) !
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Apologies for the late reply!
On his census it says Iron Chapel. Sorry I don't have any more info, I've never seen the census records it was a long distant new found relation of mine that has given me this info!
Sorry I need to correct myself! Have just spoken to my father who has the original record, and on the email he received it said "Ron Chapel" which was presumed to be Iron Chapel. Tho I think Koromo may have found my guy!
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Apologies for the late reply!
On his census it says Iron Chapel. Sorry I don't have any more info, I've never seen the census records it was a long distant new found relation of mine that has given me this info!
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Sorry I need to correct myself! Have just spoken to my father who has the original record, and on the email he received it said "Ron Chapel" which was presumed to be Iron Chapel. Tho I think Koromo may have found my guy
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Hi
You can see the transcription of the 1881 census yourself at www.ancestry.co.uk. Select the link to the 1881 Census, and enter William's name. At the bottom of the panel there are boxes for Piece, folio and page# - that's where you could enter the reference number I gave you. (RG11/4573/120/65)
To properly view the other census you need to have a paid subscription to Ancestry.
Cheers
K.
:)
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Thankyou so much, I have been looking for this guy for ages!
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I have no idea what or where Bon Chapel is. I tried Googling for it, but nothing came up, nor does it exist on the Gazetteer of British Place Names.
This is what the birthplace looks like on the 1871 census image:
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That's what I think is strange, its almost like the place didnt really exist. This man has been very very hard to track down, he has left no trail to find him by, just lots of children to his housekeeper and a very complicated story!
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Just tried the 1851 census just using the place born Yorkshire Chapel and it would appear that there are a number of placels in Yorkshire with Chapel as part of the place name. The main one being Chapel Allerton.
However I did notice when scrolling through a number of pages there were listings of some people born in Chapel Yorkshire. So this begs the question did William Sykes say he was born in Chapel Yorkshire and the enumerator has written down Bon Chapel missing out the vital 'r'.
There is only one entry when I tried the 1871 census with place born Yorkshire Bon Chapel.
Perhaps the best thing to do is look for other member of the household in 1871 and trace the other census years this way.
Jean