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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Midlothian => Topic started by: Sarah Stone on Thursday 09 March 06 22:01 GMT (UK)
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I wonder if SKS had access to the 1841 census for Midlothian.
I have a William HANDYSIDE born 1827 @ Fountain Bridge. Parents John (dob 1803 Edinburgh Parish) and Mary (dob 1793 Glencross) Handyside. In 1851 He was at The Hirsel in Coldstream as a Gardner Journeyman.
Thanks
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Hi Sarah,
I don't have access to the 1841 Cencus but I had a look in the British Vital Records to see if I could find anything more about your William Handyside.
It seems he was an only child (or the only child registered) to John Handyside and Mary Pollock as there were no other siblings listed.
Other details: Date of birth 22nd April 1827
Recorded in: Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Collection: St Cuthbert
Anne
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Thanks Anne. Any bits of info are useful. I have him born at Fountain Bridge on 15 Jan 1827.. Could he have been bapt on 22 April @ St Cuthberts. As you say he seems to have been an only child, his mother being about 37 at his birth. Don't you wonder at the stories behind the facts sometimes. His father seems to have been 10 years younger than his mother. He is one of the people I have quite a lot of info on including 3 photos as a young man, middle aged and an old man. He died aged 90 having progressed from Gardner Journeyman at The Hirsel (Sir Alec Douglas Home's estate in Clodstream in 1851 to being Head Gardner at Buil Hill Estate near Manchester.
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Thought you might like to see this Handyside grave in the famous Warriston cemetery in Edinburgh.
http://stats.pbase.com/wangi/warriston_cemetery
Elaine
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Thanks Elaine thats great. but it is so frustrating.... wife of who!? and what date? Now I really will have to plan that trip to Edinburgh!
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I know I'm sorry. I'm trying to find a relative of mine who is buried in the same cemetery but have had no luck as the graves have never been documented and the
grave yard its self is a mess. Just ran across this photo while searching and remembered the name Handyside from your post. I wish these photographer who take these fantastic photos and then post them would think about us lowely researchers!
Elaine
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The husband's name on MI looked like a three-letter word ending in AE. Could it be Jessie Handyside who married Alexander RAE in June 1845? Marriage was noted in both St Cuthbert's and Liberton parish records.
Sarah, you should make that trip to Edinburgh, would be pleased to show you around Handyside "sites"
Anne B
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Many thanks, sorry not to have replied before now. I will bear that in mind if ever I get up your way.
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Have info that implies that my William HANDYSIDE's father had died by the 1841 census. So.... now I am looking for the death of John HANDYSIDE b abt 1803 wife Mary Pollock. In 1823 John married Mary Pollock @ St Cuthbert's and 1827 they were in Fountain Bridge (birth of William) (In 1841 the family "might" be in Lasswade minus John.)
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Hi Sarah,
Here's another William Handyside!
This grave is in Larbert Cemetery, Stirlingshire and the insciption is as follows:
Left panel:
Sacred to he memory of Elinor Campbell Hodge who died 24th April 1932 aged 82 years
For many years faithful friend and nurse to the family of the late Hugh Handyside.
Centre panel:
In memory of Hugh Handyside son of the late William Handyside of Cornhill, Lanarkshire,
For many years resident in New Zealand and latterly of Magdala Crescent, Edinburgh.
Born at Oggs Castle, Lanarkshire, 31st March 1844 died at Edinburgh 3rd March 1930.
Right panel:
Also in loving memory of Hugh Skinner Stewart Handyside his only son who died 21st April 1933 aged 37 years.
A relation to 'your' William Handyside perhaps?
Anne
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Hi Ann
I can't see a connection at the moment but will keep it in mind. The wierd thing is that I have a Hugh Skinner on my mothers side from Ross & Cromarty b 1837. The only Hugh Handyside I have is son of Robert b 1801Canongate Parish, Edinburgh. Thanks anyway
Sarah
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Hi I am a Handyside - family originating from the Newcastle UK area. I am trying to track down my line of Handyside family and have done some research. I have accurate names (from my grandfather's birth certificate) and what I believe to be fairly accurate birth and death dates of my Great Grandparents - George Edward Handyside and Elizabeth Jane Somerville. I believe his father was a Cuthbert Handyside who was married to Jane Ann Reay - although I am not firm on this. I will be travelling to the UK to see my grandfather and quiz him on what he knows but was wondering if you happen to have any leads. Do our paths cross?
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Hi rdhgordie
I don't think we have a connection as far as I know. Our connection to Newcastle seems to be through William's wife Mary Routledge. In the 1851 census she was working and living with a family in Rye Hill, Elswick, Newcastle upon Tyne. At the same time William was a Journeyman Gardner at The Hirsal, Coldstream, Berwickshire. That is further north up the East coast than Newcastle.
William was born in Fountain Bridge, Edinburgh in 1827. Mary was born Farman, Nr Brampton, Cumberland in 1829. How Mary ended up in Newcastle I have no idea or how/where they met!. By the time of the marriage William had moved south and came back to Newcastle to be married by special licence. The 1st child (William James) was born in Bernet, Middlesex. The 2nd ( Mary) was born back up in Northumberland in Newham,. Children 3 & 4 ( Jessie & Margaret Emma) were born in North Mimms in Hertfordshire at Mimwood Lodge. Children 5,6 & 7 ( John, Elizabeth & Hyslop) were all born at Buile Hill, Seedley, Lancashire
I am the great grand child of Jessie.
I know there were/are groups of Handysides both in the Edinburgh area and Newcastle area and have often wondered if my William had relatives in the area and so came to meet Mary. I guess we will never know.
I hope you enjoy your trip and Happy Hunting.
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HI rdhgeordie,
read your letter with interest. I too am a Handyside of Newcastle. My GG Grandfather was Robert Handyside born 1826 in Stamfordham Northumberland. The names you have mentioned are also my ancestors. I will try and sort them out and get back to you. It will take some time as they were a huge family, but a very interesting one.
Regards
irene h
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Thanks for the reply! I have just come back from Newcastle yesterday and was looking into some family history - I am VERY interested in seeing what you have. You can e-mail me direct at (*) if that is easier. Thanks again.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=142667.msg2676434#msg2676434
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Recovering from (Swine?) flu and chest infect so will be a bit getting back to you .... sorry.
Please remind me in a week or 2 if I forget
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HI
Thanks for sending me your email address, unfortunately it was bleeped out. You can find me on Genes Reunited or Friends reunited under my maiden name of Irene Handyside.
Look forward to hearing from you.
Irene H
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HI RDH Geordie,
New to this website so not sure if you received my last message.
I will try again.
Cuthbert Handyside was my GGgrandfather's brother.born 1823 Stamfordham Northumberland.
Ann Handyside born 1831 Stamfordham Nthbld was also my GGGrandfathers sister, she married a Joseph Sommerville b.1828 in Stamfordham in 1852. I only have a son born to them in1854,Joseph. Does this match up to your records?
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Hi Anne,
Thank you so much for putting this information about Hugh HANDYSIDE on this forum even though you weren't sure that it fit the previous poster's family. He connects to my family and it's wonderful to have the picture of the gravestone and the transcription of the inscription.
Hugh HANDYSIDE was married to Amelia Ann CAMPBELL who died in childbirth as did the child in 1885 in Napier, NZ. He then married Blanche Leonora SKINNER. She too died in childbirth in 1895 but the child survived.
Btw, Amelia Ann CAMPBELL is the great-granddaughter of Donald ROBERTSON of WOODSHEIL who led Clan Robertson into battle at Culloden.
Linda
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Always glad to help!
Anne :)