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Mary Maxwell and William Blain married 19 Feb 1812 Donaghadee. The minister was Alexander Goudy. Does anybody have info on him or on them?
Jenny
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Hei Jenny,
You have a date, Mary and Williams names and the name of the minister so I am guessing their marriage might have taken place in the Donaghadee 1st Presbyterian Church. I presume you want to know if they had a family or do you already know that? http://www.presbyterianireland.org/congregations/donaghadee1.html
All the Best, Christopher
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Hi Christopher,
I know quite a few bits about the family that they birthed - including my g-grandfather William Blain - though I don't have all the dates of their children's births. But I don't know the families they came from.
Mary and William were quite possibly both from Wigtownshire - people were crossing the Irish Sea every day - but I don't know that for sure either. So it's the families they came from, and the records that there may be in Donaghadee, that I'd like to have more knowledge of. It's quite likely they had family on either side. First Presbyterian Church sounds probably right - but how did this connect to everyday life for folk, and why did people - others I'm told - go to Donaghadee to get married by this Alexander Goudy? And people went from County Down to get married in PortPatrick!
Jenny
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you may already have the info at this link :
http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/SCT-WIGTOWNSHIRE/2003-12/1071761247
OTTO
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Yes - thanks! There's a couple of others I found the googling - seems to have been quite a few people going over the water to get married :) I think there is family on both sides - are there any Irish records from Down that it's easy to access?
Jenny
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Try:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rosdavies/
http://www.raymondscountydownwebsite.com
OTTO
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Jenny,
I have a few spare copies of a little book on the history of Donaghadee, now out of print. There is no mention of your family or the Reverend Goudy, but there is quite a bit about the town’s connections with Portpatrick.
If it is of interest to you I could send you a copy with my compliments. If so you can PM me, in confidence, an address to send it to. You will be most welcome.
terry
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Jenny,
I have a few spare copies of a little book on the history of Donaghadee, now out of print. There is no mention of your family or the Reverend Goudy, but there is quite a bit about the town’s connections with Portpatrick.
If it is of interest to you I could send you a copy with my compliments. If so you can PM me, in confidence, an address to send it to. You will be most welcome.
terry
Hello Terry,
I am sure many people from Co. Down, and in particular the North Down area might be interested in the title of that little book, the name of the author, date published and publisher. Although it is out of print it may be available in their local library.
There are several other books about Donaghadee. These may be found in the NI Libraries catalogue http://opac.ni-libraries.net/cgi-bin/nireland.vps.sh
I would like to mention two
1."Historic buildings, groups of buildings, buildings of architectural importance in Donaghadee and Portpatrick, prepared August 1976-August 1977" by Hugh Dixon with Kenneth Kenmuir in Donaghadee and Jill Kennett in Portpatrick
2. Michael Mccaughan's book -
"John Moore, a donaghadee poet." 4 of 14. Irish booklore vol.1 no.2
All this Best,
Christopher
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Hi there Christopher,
The book is called "Six Miles from Bangor", remember the song...?
The author is W G Pollock, it was published in 1975/6 by Appletree Press. (Paperback with 80 odd pages, plenty of pictures & stories)
I got a bundle of them when it was published, I was living in the Dee at the time. As I still have a few left that I don't need, if anybody wants one please ask.
Regards
terry
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Donaghadee area Blain tombstones
Surfing I stumbled across a large colour photographic gallery of indexed tombstones in some Co Down graveyards, at the North of Ireland Family History Society (NIFHS) Charity number XR22524 ie www.nifhs.org/ I found it easy to check their Members interests in case someone else was already researching my line! More importantly for many I then discovered under the section Members websites is an entry for Cardwell and Leckey Families with its own website www.codown.co.uk he has another website www.yorick.plus.com/ulsterimages. I investigated just the first one., Bill Cardwell’s copyrighted photographic work covers the not just for his family surname interests but in that noble role of a supplier of information for free, he probably has a colour photograph for what looks like most tombstones in each graveyard. It’s an excellent piece of work. He covers
County Down Memorials: Millisle Presbyterian; Templepatrick graveyard, Donaghadee has Blains; Abbey Church, Bangor; Whitechurch graveyard, Ballywalter; Donaghadee Parish Ballycopeland graveyard has Blain, Millisle; Greyabbey graveyard
County Tyrone Memorials: Killyman Parish Albany Presbyterian; St. Brigid's RC, Killyman
While mentioning NIFHS website, its easy to check their Members interests in case someone else is already researching your line! Hope this is of interest, Jim
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A search for a series of books titled Gravestone Inscriptions by R. S. J. Clarke may be made in the Library Catalogue at this site http://www.ni-libraries.net
I think one of them covers the Donaghadee area.
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Hi Jenny
Came across an old edition of "North Irish Roots" this evening under my stairs, it is dated Winter 1987. In it there are some directories for Donaghadee and I noticed some names that may be interesting to you.
Belfast Post Office Directory 1843
Maxwell Charles, wine and spirit merchant
Slaters Directory 1846
Maxwell Mrs, Charles, Main Street - Gentry & Clergy
Maxwell, Robert, Bow Lane, Car Owner
Maxwell, Samuel, Sandy Row, Car Owner
And curiously!
Stevenson, Charles Maxwell, wine and spirit merchant (see above), New St
Stevenson, Charles Maxwell, Savings Bank Manager, New St.
Gary
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Hi Jenny
Came accross an old edition of "North Irish Roots" this evening under my stairs it is dated Winter 1987. In it there are some directories for Donaghadee and I noticed some names that may be interesting to you.
Belfast Post Office Direcory 1843
Maxwell Charles, wine and spirit merchant
Slaters Directory 1846
Maxwell Mrs, Charles, Main Street - Gentry & Clergy
Maxwell, Robert, Bow Lane, Car Owner
Maxwell, Samuel, Sandy Row, Car Owner
And curiously!
Stevenson, Charles Maxwell, wine and spirit merchant (see above), New St
Stevenson, Charles Maxwell, Savings Bank Manager, New St.
Gary
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Donaghadee area Blain tombstones
Surfing I stumbled across a large colour photographic gallery of indexed tombstones in some Co Down graveyards, at the North of Ireland Family History Society (NIFHS) Charity number XR22524 ie www.nifhs.org/ I found it easy to check their Members interests in case someone else was already researching my line! More importantly for many I then discovered under the section Members websites is an entry for Cardwell and Leckey Families with its own website www.codown.co.uk he has another website www.yorick.plus.com/ulsterimages. I investigated just the first one., Bill Cardwell’s copyrighted photographic work covers ...
County Down Memorials: Millisle Presbyterian; Templepatrick graveyard, Donaghadee has Blains; Abbey Church, Bangor; Whitechurch graveyard, Ballywalter; Donaghadee Parish Ballycopeland graveyard has Blain, Millisle; Greyabbey graveyard
County Tyrone Memorials: Killyman Parish Albany Presbyterian; St. Brigid's RC, Killyman
Thanks Jim! I'll have to check these out..
Jenny
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Hi Jenny
Came accross an old edition of "North Irish Roots" this evening... In it there are some directories for Donaghadee
Thanks Gary. At least it shows that there were Maxwells in Donaghadee then... if only I could find things from earlier in the century!
Regards,
Jenny
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Hello Jenny,
This gravestone inscription is from the www.ulsterancestry.com site.
it seems to show Maxwells in Donaghadee from the 17th century
Maxwell This stone was erected by ... Maxwell in memory of John Maxwell who died 14 Jun 1739 aged 70 years. Margaret Maxwell otherwise Haslet died 18 Mar 1762. Ann Maxwell otherwise McCulloch died 02 May 1778 aged 68. William Maxwell died 11 Jul 1794 aged 48. Robert Maxwell died 28 Dec 1801 aged 47. Robert Maxwell died 28 Feb 1805 aged 94. Margaret Maxwell otherwise Kelly died 01 Jan 1826 aged 72, all of Ballyrare in the parish of Donaghadee. Also Primrose Maxwell otherwise Bankhead of Donaghadee died 02 Nov 1836 aged 57. Also the said Charles Maxwell of Donaghadee who died 05 Oct 1846 aged 59 years.
regards
Rab
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Rab's message about gravestones prompted me to check the Cliften St (Belfast) Registry of graves at "Glenravel online" and lo and behold, there is William Maxwell died of Cholera aged 52. He was described as a Barman from Donaghadee. Date 15 August 1832.
Funny how one thought can stimulate another thought and turn up something unexpected ;)
Gary
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Maxwell This stone was erected by ... Maxwell in memory of John Maxwell who died 14 Jun 1739 aged 70 years. Margaret Maxwell otherwise Haslet died 18 Mar 1762. Ann Maxwell otherwise McCulloch died 02 May 1778 aged 68. William Maxwell died 11 Jul 1794 aged 48. Robert Maxwell died 28 Dec 1801 aged 47. Robert Maxwell died 28 Feb 1805 aged 94. Margaret Maxwell otherwise Kelly died 01 Jan 1826 aged 72, all of Ballyrare in the parish of Donaghadee. Also Primrose Maxwell otherwise Bankhead of Donaghadee died 02 Nov 1836 aged 57. Also the said Charles Maxwell of Donaghadee who died 05 Oct 1846 aged 59 years.
Thanks Rab! My feeling is that there could be two major reasons for Mary Maxwell and William Blain to be married in Donaghadee in 1812 - one being that they were from Portpatrick or Stranraer and taking advantage of the marriages done by this Alexander Goudy in Donaghadee (maybe one or other was young and they didn't have permission) - or that Mary Maxwell was from a local family. William Blain is described later (1841 census, Stranraer) as born in Wigtownshire. So anything I can get on Donaghadee Maxwells is good! Also, I don't know what villages or towns would be nearby that Mary Maxwell might be from, if not Donaghadee itself.
I think that her father may have been John. Mary had a son named John Maxwell Blain. Robert is another possible family name.
Jenny
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Rab, I was trying to find the Donaghadee gravestones on the Ulster Ancestry site - couldn't find a link... or is it members only?
I can't find the family of William Blain and Mary Maxwell in the 1851 Scottish census, and wonder if they were in Ireland then? If so - there may be traces. Both parents were dead by 1860, but where is not known...
Jenny
(Almost my whole family is like this. They live on borders, they cross and recross borders, either county or country... Even the ones who seem fairly sedentary - the McCullochs and Fishers and Whytes of Linlithgow area in Scotland in the 18th to mid-19th centuries, are constantly crossing the Avon which separates two counties ;D )
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Hi Jenny....
Was wondering if during your research you have run across a William Maxwell son of George Maxwell....would be later in the 1800's. From the information I have believe he would have been born around 1894?....He married an Annie Close 15 Jan 1926. Thot I would ask, as I have been told there were "Close" rellies in Donaghadee at some point....Any insight you might have would be appreciated....
All the Best
Wendy
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Mary Maxwell and William Blain married 19 Feb 1812 Donaghadee. The minister was Alexander Goudy. Does anybody have info on him or on them?
Jenny
Rev. Alexander Goudy was ordained at Donaghadee, Ireland, March 14, 1780
http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=BookList&dbid=15756&offerid=0%3a7858%3a0
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Mary Maxwell and William Blain married 19 Feb 1812 Donaghadee. The minister was Alexander Goudy. Does anybody have info on him or on them?
Jenny
Rev. Alexander Goudy was ordained at Donaghadee, Ireland, March 14, 1780
http://content.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=BookList&dbid=15756&offerid=0%3a7858%3a0
The above link to the section on Rev. Goudy only works if you've a subscription to Ancestry.
First Donaghadee Presbyterian Church: Alexander Goudy, born near Newtownards, lic. Bangor, brother of Rev. James Goudy of Clontibret, ordained 14 Mar.1780 'but after being relieved of his charge by the Presbytery on 30 June 1791 he emigrated to the U.S.A. It would appear also that he was deposed.'
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Did Rev Alexander Goudy emigrate ???
He must have returned to marry people in Donaghadee.
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Thanks all. I don't use Ancestry so can't access the page on Goudy. However it seems very unlikely that he could have emigrated, unless he returned rather speedily! There are marriages performed by him listed in the various Wigtownshire records through the 1790s and 1800s - the Blain/Maxwell one being 1812.
Does the ancestry page give any more details, or list the source of the information?
Jenny
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Hi Jenny
If you want to know more about Primrose Maxwell (nee Bankhead) I can tell you quite a lot about her family
Regards
Matt
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Terry
If you still have that book about Donaghadee can you please look up the name BITCON.
Lynn
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Hi all,
I'm not sure who Primrose Maxwell is - she may be later than mine. But I think my Mary Maxwell was probably from Wigtownshire - it's just that they ran away to Donaghadee to marry, or something like that! I'm sure there is a story there but don't know what it was. But there were people going backwards and forwards over the Sheuch all the time, I think, so any details of Maxwell families from the time of the late 18th century or very early 19th may be useful.
Alexander Goudy seems to have done a real trade in marriages!
I was trying again to get on the Ancestry page about him, but though I have an ancestry.co.uk subscription now, I can't access it as it needs a US subscription. Is there any chance somebody might send me the text of the page?
Jenny
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Lynn.....
I can't find any mention of the BITCON family, sorry. It is not a name I have heard before so I had a look at the 1901 & 1911 census and indeed they lived in Donaghadee & thereabouts, I am sure you have seen that already.
Sorry I can't be of help.
terry
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Terry,
Thank you for looking. The Bitcon Family live in that area sinced the 1600's. It is hard to find any info about them. I am here in Florida.
Lynn
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Lynn
The name BITCON is mentioned in the website DONAGHADEE HEADSTONES - if you just Google it & look up the list of graves on the left hand side of the site, there is also a reference to BITCON under the name of MATEAR. Hope this helps.
LJC