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Title: census L/U please Crofts in sheffield area
Post by: sparkler on Thursday 02 March 06 13:40 GMT (UK)
Trying to find more about the following, and have them in 1861 census:
Parish: pitsmoor, Sub district 5 brightside Sheffield.
10, Woodside lane

Wm CROFTS 42 b.Troway, Derbyshire!
Ann, wife 37 b. Troway, yorkshire!
Arthur, son  14 b. Troway
John, son  9 b.Troway
Samuel, son 6, b. Troway
Alethea, daughter  0, b. Troway. (My great gran)

I've found them in 1881 in Attercliffe cum Darnall.

Ideally i'd like info from other censuses. Also I can't find the marriage of William and Ann (Rodgers was her maiden name, I think). There are lots of Wm Crofts, but none seem to tally with an Ann!

Title: Re: census L/U please Crofts in sheffield area
Post by: jat on Thursday 02 March 06 14:57 GMT (UK)
According to sheffieldrecordsonline.org.uk in 1851 in Sheffield we have
William CROFTS 31 b Eckington
Ann 26 b Sheffield
Arthur 3 b Sheffield
Ref 2339/193

John
Title: Re: census L/U please Crofts in sheffield area
Post by: Bryan. on Thursday 02 March 06 15:00 GMT (UK)
Hi

Could this be them on the 1851 census ?

William Crofts,head,31 yrs.table blade forger,b.Eckington,Derbys.
Ann Crofts,wife,26 yrs.b.Sheffield,Yorks
Arthur Crofts,son,3 yrs.b.Sheffield

HO107/2339  folio 193      page 80.


Bryan.
Title: Re: census L/U please Crofts in sheffield area
Post by: sparkler on Thursday 02 March 06 15:57 GMT (UK)
Thanks John and Brian. So William WAS born in Derbyshire. Maybe I was having problems cos every time I did a look up I thought he was born in yorkshire..There was a mistake on 1861 census!
kathy
Title: Re: census L/U please Crofts in sheffield area
Post by: Tuppie on Friday 03 March 06 21:50 GMT (UK)
Hi.

Troway was a hamlet in the parish of Eckington. Derbyshire

This looks like him in 1841. Address Troway

Ezra CROFTS aged 55 Sickle Maker
Ann CROFTS 50
William CROFTS 20 Table Blade M
Ezra CROFTS aged 14
Charles CROFTS 10

All born in County.

Kind Regards

Tuppie
Title: Re: census L/U please Crofts in sheffield area
Post by: sparkler on Saturday 04 March 06 12:26 GMT (UK)
I'm thrilled with this info. thanks Tuppie!!
Now I've got more idea where and when to search for William's marriage.
Does anyone know what a 'table blade forger' is?

Kathy
Title: Re: census L/U please Crofts in sheffield area
Post by: Dalum on Saturday 04 March 06 13:35 GMT (UK)
hello Kathy,

The forging of blades for table knives was a two-man process. The forger was the senior man. He put the metal bar from which the blade would be made into the hearth and judged, from its colour, when it was hot enough. Then he took the bar out with tongs and laid it on an anvil where his mate, the striker, hammered it out with a two-handed hammer under his instructions. The forger would turn the blade or put it back in the hearth to reheat it as required.

Hugh in Sheffield
Title: Re: census L/U please Crofts in sheffield area
Post by: Tuppie on Saturday 04 March 06 20:56 GMT (UK)
Hi Sparkler.

Ezra CROFTS is still around in 1851.

Ho107/2148 Folio 386

Ezra CROFTS 68 Pauper (Sicklemaker) born Ford DBY
Ann CROFTS 65 Pauper born Apperknowle DBY
Ezra CROFTS 24 Sickle Maker Troway DBY
Charles CROFTS 21 Boot & Shoe Maker Troway DBY

Ford is the bottom end of Ridgeway and Ridgeway was in the parish of Eckington until 1843 when it became a seperate parish including Troway.

Apperknowle was in the parish of Dronfield were Ezra married Ann HIBBERT 12th Jan 1807. Check out the IGI. These are extractions....all the children are baptised at Dronfield apart from Charles who was baptised at Eckington.

Regards
Tuppie
Title: Re: census L/U please Crofts in sheffield area
Post by: sparkler on Wednesday 19 April 06 22:49 BST (UK)
Have found the marriage of Ann Rodgers and William Crofts and have got the cert. What is odd is that Ann's address at time of marriage is 'Nursery'. She was 19, so I suppose she was working there?? There is nothing written under Rank or profession. If anyone has any ideas ...?

William's address is South St Park. Does this still exist?
I don't expect any replies, just hope for more info!
They married in Sheffield in the Parish church, sept 22nd, 1844

Kathy
Title: Re: census L/U please Crofts in sheffield area
Post by: Tuppie on Wednesday 19 April 06 23:17 BST (UK)
Hi Kathy.

"Nursery" could be Nursery St.

Womens occupation were not usually listed on marriage certificates at this time period.

South Street, Park District is still there, but was developed in the 1960's.The buildings are now known as Park Hill flats.

You can check these out at http://www.picturesheffield.com
There is also photographs of South St Park...which was seperate to South Street Moor.
Is his father Ezra....I haven't forgotten about you...will still check when I get to Matlock.
Tuppie