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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Durham => Topic started by: kalemar on Tuesday 28 February 06 20:43 GMT (UK)
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I am looking for links to the KIRSOP family in the LANCHESTER area in the period 1750 - 1850.
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I have Kirsopps (two "p"s) in Lanchester, my great grandfather John William Victor is the first in my line. I have his father as Henry Wood, and his as Joseph.
Would appreciate any information you can share
Many thanks
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Thank you for making contact. The spelling with one or two "p's" is, I think, largely irrelevant bearing in mind the literacy problems in those days. Judith KIRSOP was my great grandmother and was born ca 1824 at SHOTLEY according to various census returns but I have not, as yet, been able to confirm the parish register entry. She married Thomas MARSHALL on 16 August 1845 but he died in 1853. He would have been my great grandfather but for the fact that my grandfather, also Thomas, was born 9 years (years not months) after Thomas the elder died!! So far as I can make out to date, Judith's parents were Thomas Kirsop and Isabella (maiden name as yet unknown). I hope to take a trip to Bolbec Hall, Newcastle to do some research before long when I hope to confirm some of this. That is as much as I have at the moment save to say that Thomas and Isabella appear to have had another daughter, Mary born ca 1811, also in Shotley. There appears to be no shortage of Kirsop names in this area of the country so whilst there may be a link it could be difficult to establish. If anything of the foregoing is interesting to you please let me know.
Best wishes,
Bernard Kerr
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Thanks Bernard
Can't see any immediate link, but will be in touch if anything falls into place.
Have had a frustrating last month or 6 weeks, seem to be going round in circles on my research, so keen to have a good run at it and will let you know if I come across anything likely to interest you.
Kind regards
Julie
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Hi I am researching the kirsop Family name as my mother was the last of one branch of the kirsop family
she was Mary Bolton Kirsop born 1924 in Newcast
Her family came from Wickham blaydon Winlaton area
father alfred ernest Kirsop b 1886
G F Matthew b1861`
GGF William b 1827
GGGF William b 1800
It has been suggested that one reason for the changes of spelling was to distinguish between Protestant and Catholic branches of the family but the spelling at times seems interchangable and a few other variations including Kirshop and Kersop
The origin of the name I have been told was Kershope burn on the Scotish borders near Newcastleton and that the Family name possibly derived from Kerr were border rievers. Certainly the name appears to migrate down through Northumberland to the tyne vally into Durham
in the 1881 and 1901 census Cumberland Northumberland and Durham is the mainstay of the name distribution. One Kirsop family moved from Alston to oversee the lead mines in Arachle in Scotland and later Joseph Kirsop became a methodist minister who moved around the country,
Latest distribution of the surname makes it most frequent around Hertfordshire and there is details of one family group moving to hertfordshire to find work in the building industry in early 1900s which appears to be the source of this group
I have collected many details of Kirsops some of which are linked others which are unattached at present
I am happy to share any details wich are of interest
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Ian, I was in contact with you approx 2 years ago now, and wondered if any of the Kirsops you have not yet managed to link into your own tree tie into mine yet?
Earliest confirmed ancestor I have is Joseph, born about 1816 in Shotley, Co Durham. He married Ann and they had children Elizabeth, Isabella, Henry Wood, Mary Ann, and Margaret.
Would be interested in anything you can share. Thanks and kind regards
Julie
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yes I have you as the source for this branch
I have a number of Kirsop(p)s in Shotley Bridge but no certain links
There was a marriage of William Kirsopp and mary Bainbridge in 1787
William Kirsopp and Mary Robinson in 1799
Joseph Kirsop and isabel Tait in 1800
Thomas Kirsop and Isabel Robson in 1808 they appear to have had a daughter judith
one of these could be your ancestor but I have no definative link
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Thomas Kirsop and wife Isabel (nee Robson) lived at 122 Snows Green, Shotley Bridge. They had two daughters, Mary and Judith. They possibly had two sons, George and Ralph, still to be confirmed.
Parents of Ralph are listed as a Thomas and Isabel Kirsop, and Ralph's daughter Mary's birthplace is listed as Snows Green, so fairly strong possible family tie here in my opinion.
Ralph also had a son Joseph George Kirsop.
Judith Kirsop (1824-1898...my great, great grandmother) married Thomas Marshall (1822-1853) and had daughters Mary, Judith Jnr and Isabella. Two other daughters, Sarah Jane and Margaret and son Thomas (my great grandfather) were born post 1853, so I have no father(s) name for them.
I do have more information on this (my) Kirsop line, but don't know if it's of any use to you.
Best regards
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hi Tenorsaxman
I went through the Shotley parish records a week or so ago and noted down all the Kirsops I could find, but still haven't managed to definitively tie in my own names with the names in your line.
Perhaps one day...
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Hi Bernard,
From Familysearch Pilot a possble Marriage for Thomas;
Thomas KIRSOP
Isabel ROBSON, 25 January 1808, Shotley, Northumberland
I see from the 1861 Census where Thomas is with the Marshalls he is born c 1782 Consett, Durham.
Could this be him?
Thomas KIRSOP, 13 September 1782, Medomsley, Durham, Father EDWARD
1841 Census Thomas and Isabella have children;
Mary, 1813
Ralph, 1818
Isabella, 1822
JUDITH, 1826
Only Thomas is born in County.
Christenings to a THOMAS/ISABEL are (possibly yours?) Familysearch Pilot;
HENRY 18 June 1815, Whittonstall, Northumberland
RALPH 14 September 1817, Whittonstall
IGI has these 2 above + ;
THOMAS Kersop, 19 April 1812, Whittonstall
Parents THOMAS Kirsop and Isabel ROBSON
Trish :)
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Hi Julie,
Looks like Joseph is another child of Thomas and Isabel.
Joseph KIRSOP
Birth 02 April 1819
Christened/Baptised 25 November 1819, High Street Wesleyan, Gateshead, Durham
Parents THOMAS and ISABEL
1851 Census Joseph is born c 1819 and names a Daughter Isabel in 1849
Marriage Reg from FreeBMD;
Joseph KIRSOP, June 1845, NewcastleT, 25 396
On the same page is Ann WOOD
Trish :)
Extracted Record;
Joseph KIRSOP, Father THOMAS
Ann WOOD, Father HENRY
Marrried 1845, St Nicholas, Newcastle uopn Tyne, Northumberland
Both Records Christening and Marriage on Familysearch Pilot
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George KIRSOP,
Birth 14 July 1809
Christened/Baptised 28 April 1811, Shotley, Northumberland
Parents THOS. Kirsop and Isabel ROBSON