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Title: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 28 February 06 13:54 GMT (UK)
:D  Looks like this saga has come to Bucks.   ;D

              I have now found a Marriage of Charles Cox and Julia Howe
  Newport Pagnell Dec 1854 vol 3a pg 720.
 
                I have Margaret Howe (b 1859) with mother Julia Howe.
    Margaret goes on to have Frederick Cox as a partner? 1893 their son is born.
   No reference of Fred and Marg marriage.

            Do Charles and Julia have a Margaret?
           Did Julia have a first husband, Joseph Howe?
            Margaret keeping her older sisters surname?

      Erm....    Argh...       ;D
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: tazzie on Tuesday 28 February 06 17:21 GMT (UK)
Hi Lesanne  see what you can make of this.....

1851 census Stony Stratford HO107/1737 F171P14

High Street

 Joseph Howe hd w 36 chemist &druggist Milton Keynes
 Julia Ann dau 4                                         Stony Stratford
 Elizabeth Howe niece 20                           Milton Keynes
 William Robinson nephew 13 scholar         Milton Keynes
 Avis Harvey mother in law w 55 housekeeper Warboys
 Francis Clarke vis 60 annuitant                       Lillingstone Dayrell
 Charles Cox ass u 23 assistant to chemist/druggist Middlesex
 Caroline Baker u 20 servant                             Henley

 1861 CENSUS High St Stony Stratford

 Charles Cox hd m 33 chemist &druggist London Middlesex
 Julia Cox wi m 35                                     Milton Keynes
 William Robinson newphew 23 assistant Broughton M.K
 Henry Howe nephew 15 apprentice druggist Milton Keynes
 Henry Cox cousin 14 scholar                          Milton Keynes
 Betsy Capel servant 26   servant                  Whaddon
 John Buckingham servant 19                        Cosgrove


    RG9/929 F25 P13.


      TAZZIE


 
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 28 February 06 17:36 GMT (UK)
       :D   Good grief Tazzie,   :D
                 
              I shall print this off and have pancakes first....

                             Thanks for your time on it though..  :D
                                          Back L8r
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. Oh!! and now BAKER ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 28 February 06 19:25 GMT (UK)
      :D  That's them fed and watered, now.
 
                  What a turn up, Tazzie.....  :o

          Oh my lordie!!!  On that one posting there are 3 family lines...
                     HOWE   - COX   -   BAKER
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: tazzie on Tuesday 28 February 06 19:28 GMT (UK)
Lesanne.... you lucky :-X

We have been racking our brains because there are lots of local chemist's around this area all called Cox and Robinsons...how about that (cannot find any history about it yet!)

I have also found young Julia in 1871 if you want that one?


                       Tazzie
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 28 February 06 19:32 GMT (UK)
 I'm going to put the 3 families and their links, just trying to put them together on here may pull it together. In fact it could be 4 as another crew were in Chemist trade????
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 28 February 06 20:41 GMT (UK)
HOWE  family
1901 Margaret Cox/Howe 36 in Maidenhead
1891 Margaret Howe 24 servant in Kensington
1881 Margaret Howe 18 servant in Cardiff, Glam.
1871 Margaret Howe 10 St Mary's Orphanage, Walthamstow. With sisters.
 Julia 13, Elizabeth 9, Ellen 7,  Rose? 4,
1861 Margaret Howe 2 in Kensington, with
Joseph Howe, 32,b Mitchelstown.
Julia, 29,b Somerset.
Thomas 9
Catherine 8
Maryann 6
Juleanna? 5

1893 Margaret HOWE has paired up with Frederick COX for a birth. Maidenhead
1866 William COX marriage Letitia BAKER Lambeth
1871 in Ewell, Epsom.
 1881 William Cox widower. in Abingdon.
Did the sisters become orphaned after Julia widowed?
Who was Charles Cox's father?.....

Tanja, Valda, CP, and more, have helped so much in finding this info. The Cox brothers from Essex seemed to spread far and wide after the decline of Cronford ?Park Estate near Stock Essex in the 1820/30.
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Wendi on Tuesday 28 February 06 20:46 GMT (UK)
Just happened across a reference in The National Archives to a Jos. Howe. 

It would appear that Bedfordshire & Luton Archives have a Medical Certificate regarding him dated 1853

Hope the link works - modified - pooh, no it does not so try: 

http://www.a2a.org.uk/search/index.asp

Keyword = Jos Howe
Location of Archives = Bedfordshire and Luton Archives & Record Services

Your new finds are so exciting  ;D
Wendi
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 28 February 06 21:16 GMT (UK)
  Hi Wendi,
No, didn't work. But I went into a2a site.
I have to think that this Joseph Howe is a coincidence, and all this family that goes with him!
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: tazzie on Tuesday 28 February 06 22:24 GMT (UK)
Shame Lesanne...

Julia jnr in my posting is with a Harman family as niece not in Walthamstow, but what a coincidence with all those names the same.

                   Tazzie :(
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 28 February 06 22:29 GMT (UK)
   How did I know that? I've got it somewhere in all my notes. Oh my.
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 28 February 06 22:31 GMT (UK)
 I'm just going to put Simpson's as the other chemist?

   Coincidence or what...   :-\
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Saturday 04 March 06 07:47 GMT (UK)
  Hi Tazzie,    Keep looking at that family..  ???

               You see, I just cannot find the marriage,
     of my Frederick Cox b 1870 Ewell and Margaret Howe b 1859 Cardiff.

              That Charles Cox, who was his father?
    and William Robinson, how could he be nephew to both.
     Where was Joseph pre '51?
        It throws up so many questions...
                        Totally confuddled..    ;D
           
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: tazzie on Monday 06 March 06 22:24 GMT (UK)
Hi Lesanne...

Been busy in Beds rellie AWOL in 1861... >:(

 Which on do you want to look at let me know and I will go for it!!

               Tazzie
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 07 March 06 08:15 GMT (UK)
  It's Charles Cox background that would tye it together, Tazzie.
  His father/grandfather ? Then the Baker family?

     ooh 'eck....    ;D
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: tazzie on Tuesday 07 March 06 23:16 GMT (UK)
Hi Lesanne...

 Have a look at this.......

 www.mkheritage.co.uk/mkm/stonystratford/docs/shops.html

 It has photos of Cox and Robinsons chemists shops.

 Still looking.....

            Tazzie
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Wednesday 08 March 06 08:14 GMT (UK)
   ;D  Like the way teeth are carefully extracted. LOL Tazzie.  ;D

   ???  Established 1760? Looked to me like Howe was the name of 1st chemist?
Perhaps I need to post for Chales further away?... Erm..

  It certainly is interesting, just the way all the names came together.  :)

        I note your Harman.. good friends here by that name..

                                         :D Thanks Tazzie.
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: tazzie on Wednesday 08 March 06 11:29 GMT (UK)
Hi Lesanne just found another link...

 1861 RG9/783 F18 P3  10 Ludbury  (will add full address)

 Charles Harman hd m 42 clerk railway station middlesex
 Charlotte Harman wi m 39                                milton keynes
 HANNAH FARMER sister inlaw m 50                     "          "
 Julia Howe neice    un 13                               Stony Stratford


 1871 rg10/1474 f48 p10 High St Stony Stratford

 William Robinson hd u 38 druggist /chemist   Milton Keynes
 Julia J Cox     Aunt w 45                                    "          "
 HANNAH FARMER AUNT  m 65                            "           "
 Henry Howe  boarder u 25 druggist assistant  Broughton
 Oliver G Howe boarder u 19 druggist apprentice Milton Keynes
 Arthur Blake boarder u 15 scholar                           "          "

 Charles Ivens boarder u 11 scholar                       marsh Gibbon
 John Robinson visiter m 61                                   Yardley Hastings.

 - Julia in 1881 is with a family by the name of Ivens and could John be related to William?

  more questions than answers again but have added to related names.
 If it wasn't chucking it down we would go into Stony and have a poke about. Will try to get into the city centre when possible.....
 will check the records on file there.

                    Tracy
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: tazzie on Wednesday 08 March 06 16:06 GMT (UK)
Hi Lesanne...

 Just found Joseph Howe was around in Stony Stratford in at least 1838 he is listed in Robsons 1838/1839 directory for Buckinghamshire.  Trying to find his marriage.

                 Tazzie
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Wednesday 08 March 06 16:33 GMT (UK)
 Joseph Howe must have married Julia B4 dec 1854  (3a 720) that's when she married Charles Cox. Just thinking out loud.  ;D
 Reading through all the other info so I can get going after the homework session.
                                          8)
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: tazzie on Wednesday 08 March 06 17:01 GMT (UK)
Hi Lesanne  all these names flying around....
 You said Julia must have been married to Joseph b4 1854 but Joseph was a widow in 1851 and I have found two marriages for Joseph Howe Newport Pagnell area 1= 1846 2=1849.

 Julia could have been his sister 10 years between them?
 I might be getting confused now ....

 also found Julia Jane Howe c 23 July 1825 dau of William and Hannah, Thats the one that married Charles. Might be worth posting a 1841 plea for Stony we may get some more names to work on.

  Off for tea  ......

                  Tazzie
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Wednesday 08 March 06 17:46 GMT (UK)
  Oh yes ! ...duh... didn't think of that ...
Joseph '15 and Julia Jane '26 - brother and sister.
 Julia Ann '47 , Joseph's daughter.
If Julia '48 is niece to Charles Harman '19, then Charlotte '22 could be another sister.

Avis Harvey or harman  '1796 :-\              )
Hannah Farmer or harman '1806 :-\        ) Married to brothers

Going to dish up....  ;D
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Wednesday 08 March 06 21:15 GMT (UK)
   Off we go again...
   Avis Harvey (M-I-L) on '51 census..  ;)
                          found this.. on IGI
      Joseph How (no E) marriage Elizabeth Harvey 22nd Sept 1814.
          All Saints, Fulbourn, Cambridge.
                                :-\  ???  :-\  ???  :-\
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: tazzie on Wednesday 08 March 06 23:07 GMT (UK)
Ok Elizabeth could fit...

 b  June 1850 Elizabeth Howe Newport Pagnell
 d  Sept 1850 Elizabeth Howe Newport Pagnell
 b Dec 1852 Elizabeth Howe Newport Pagnell
 d June 1856 Elizabeth Howe Newport Pagnell...

 ....will go back to 1851 to eliminate ...

               Tazzie
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Wednesday 08 March 06 23:19 GMT (UK)
Just found this:- 1881 John Ivens Married to Catherine.  She just happens to be a Howe on IGI.    Woohoo.... Julia's sister
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: tazzie on Wednesday 08 March 06 23:19 GMT (UK)
Have sorted....

 Elizabeth b June 1850 =on census 1851 dau of James  
                                       on census 1861 dau James O.K.

 Elizabeth b Dec 1852 =nothing 1861
  so Elizabeth d June 1856

 Leaving Elizabeth -( Josephs wife) in 1850 I hope :-\


                  Tazzie
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: tazzie on Wednesday 08 March 06 23:24 GMT (UK)
Good  one Lesanne

 Julia is with them in 1881 and their son Charles with her and William Robinson in 1871...just thought of something will be back.

                   Tazzie
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Wednesday 08 March 06 23:28 GMT (UK)
 Opps, wedding date for the above 2nd Dec 1857, Milton Keynes.  John Ivens and Catherine Howe.

      I'm sure there must be something in the Middx, B/p for James C Rubidge (1809).
          I have found another coach builder in Middx,  William C Rubidge (1821). These people are with William H Robinson and Henry Cox in High Str Stony in 1881.

                  I wonder if the C is Cox  ??? funnier things have happened...  ;D
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Wednesday 08 March 06 23:33 GMT (UK)
 :D  That's a shame.. It's Charles..
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: tazzie on Wednesday 08 March 06 23:53 GMT (UK)
Lesanne I know its late but wedding for who?

 Also who are William and James Rubidge.....I need sleep or another coffee???


             Tazzie
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Thursday 09 March 06 00:01 GMT (UK)
   ???  Where was Catherine Howe in 1851 aged 30 (b1830)  ???  :-\
              Oo Gawd it getting past my bedtime  ;D

  Harman/Cox/Rubidge/Ivens all from Middx.  Howe/ Robinson from  MK
   Erm...
  
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Thursday 09 March 06 00:06 GMT (UK)
Rubridge with William Robinson in 1881.
  The marriage date for Catherine and John Ivens.

               Sorry, ;D belting away here before mine eyeballs shut.
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: tazzie on Thursday 09 March 06 00:12 GMT (UK)
HI again...


 LIVERPOOL  in answer to your question to Catherine!

               Tazzie
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Thursday 09 March 06 00:15 GMT (UK)
What was she doing up there  ;D  :P
    Anybody interesting ? ?
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: tazzie on Thursday 09 March 06 00:25 GMT (UK)
No the Smith's and that could go anywhere,


     ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Time to sleep before 2 year old wakes up at 5:30.

 Will post tomorrow. Night

         Tazzie
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Thursday 09 March 06 00:28 GMT (UK)
  Oh dear, sorry to keep you. I know what it's like. Good night.  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Thursday 09 March 06 00:53 GMT (UK)
  Rubidge with William Robinson 'cause Harriot is a Howe.
In Jun 1851 Marylebone.  Also an Emma Rubidge.

  Then found William George Rubidge not far from me in Steyning Dec 1848.
That could bring in your Harman's.
              But, another night.   ;)
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: tazzie on Thursday 09 March 06 22:02 GMT (UK)
Hi Lesanne.

 Went to Cox and Robinson's chemist in Stony today. Spoke to a really nice lady who has worked there for 40 years. She said if I wrote out some questions she would ask the currant owner to help.... not bad eh!
 Joseph and William were from Milton Keynes, Charles Cox from Middlesex so that could mean a wide search for his parents so I am hoping to find the marriage in C.M.K. library.
 Cox and Robinson branched out into Oxfordshire -with Henry Howe in Eynsham and Northamptonshire with Oliver G Howe in Ramsey(boarders in 1871 with William Robinson) We may have found other children for Joseph Howe in Stony library but the mothers name is Ann,so maybe another Joseph (will check 1851 again).
 Will have to bribe hubby and escape to check the records .


                                Tazzie
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Friday 10 March 06 08:18 GMT (UK)
     Good one, Tazzie. Beat Miss Marple anyday.
                  Your local paper might be interested in the end result!!

       Looking at 1851. Joseph widow. Name for daughter Julia Ann.
                  Ann - wife   Julia - sister. Thinking out loud again...

       Combing the IGI and have soooo many notes..  ;D
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: tazzie on Friday 10 March 06 08:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Lesanne

Going by IGI parents are William and Hannah will see what I can find.
 Back with info (hopefully) Sunday.

                   Tazzie
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: tazzie on Sunday 12 March 06 21:14 GMT (UK)
Hi Lesanne,

 I see you all made it back then (saw the photos)

 Well my big trip to the library Stony Stratford reel 141.....AH!!!!!!!!
 someone was already using it   :'( ,he did ask what names to look out for but he was back in the early 1700's so not quite where we need BUT have no fear will go back this week and not just book a film reader I will beg to book the whole film!
 Any way found Charlotte Howe's marriage to Charles Harman
    Feb 3rd 1844 Charlotte dau of William Howe farmer
                          Charles son of Charles Harman attorney

 Charles Cox died 3 feb 1864 age 35 and is buried in plot no 571 in the local cemetery(might be able to find).

   Even some Cave lookups I promised to do are on that damn reel.
 Oh well they never said this would be easy ;D

                    Tazzie
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Monday 13 March 06 08:00 GMT (UK)
   :D   Well done you. Now you've got the Harman family.
            Where did Charlotte fit in?
                 Just quickly going through my papers here and I can't get
              back on the trail.   Will be back tonite.
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: tazzie on Monday 13 March 06 08:27 GMT (UK)
Hi 

 Charlotte looks to be Julia Jane's sister along with Hannah Farmer,
 so far names tally to daughters of William Howe -a farmer.


  will see what more I can find.


                       TAZZIE
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Monday 13 March 06 08:40 GMT (UK)
William has Joseph, Hannah, Julia Jane, and Charlotte, as children.
     Off to work now.  Will catch up tonite.
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: tazzie on Monday 13 March 06 21:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Lesanne ,

 Sorry I'm late today -one of those Monday's

 Anyway FILM 141 Stony Stratford........
   I started with baptism's from 1840 onwards and found..

 Julia Howe bap. 21 Oct 1846 f= Joseph m=ANN
 Marian Howe bap.14 March 1848 f=Joseph m=Ann
 Joseph William bap.10 June 1849 f=joseph m=Ann.

 So there were other children but...
 Marian died 1848 Potterspury
 Joseph William died 1849 Potterspury
 ANN died 1850 Potterspury.
 Potterspury is now Northants but for a time it was the res. dist. for Stony.

 I checked for their marriage in Stony but no luck at St Giles there are still some more on another reel for another church ( I think it's the one at the other end of the High St that only has the tower standing-its SPOOKY :o ) so will have to follow the trail from there.

 Charles and Julia's marriage in 1854 in Newport Pagnell.......

 I thought it might show in Stony BUT no so it must be in Newport Pagnell not just registered there.

 Also Joseph Howe took over the chemist from Charles Loe who ran it
 I found him in an old directory for 1831-32.

 Will try to get back there on Wednesday (hubby has day off ).

              Tazzie
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 14 March 06 08:12 GMT (UK)
    You have been busy Tazzie 8) definately on a roll now.
 Big art project going on at the mo for an exam, so my puta time is limited....

    I'm just trying to make some order of all the family while off line.
          Back later. Gotta go to work.
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: tazzie on Wednesday 15 March 06 19:36 GMT (UK)
Lesanne ...Hit the wall!!!

 Charles's marriage to Julia Newport Pagnell Dec 1854 cannot find in records at Newport Pagnell..... or Stony.... ???
 Two Churches in Stony St Giles  = west
                           St Mary Magdalene =east.

 What I will do is take up the offer from the lady in Cox & Robinson chemist and i will draw up a letter with some questions...

  i.e.  Owners of shop.....
         Charles = connection to family

 anything esle you would like added?

                  Tazzie
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Wednesday 15 March 06 20:15 GMT (UK)
   Have just had Margaret's birth cert delivered...
  13 or 30 August 1859, St John Cardiff.
Father Micheal Joseph Howe ( never heard of Micheal!!)
Mother Julia Ann Howe formerly ( looks like) Molony?
Reg 8th Sept 1859 Cardiff.

This is going by the 1861 Margaret in Kensington 2yrs.
                                                                                         OOOO 'eck    :-\  ???

  Perhaps Fred Cox and Margaret Howe never married.. ;D
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: tazzie on Monday 24 April 06 14:03 BST (UK)
Hi Lesanne....

 Over a month has gone by...BUT  it was worth the wait.
 Today a delivery came from Cox & Robinson. I have about 8 pages on the history and the family.
  Charles Cox.... b in London @ 1829 son of.....wait for it....

               Joel Cox and his second wife Elizabeth.
 Elizabeth was the daughter of George Cox.
 Joel the son of Joseph Cox.

    p.m me your details and I will send all the info to you.

                       Tazzie
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Monday 24 April 06 18:03 BST (UK)
This all sounds a really great find.
  I wonder if it ties in with Joseph Cox our "Gt x loads" Grandad.

    PM on it's way.           Lesanne.
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Thursday 02 August 07 23:09 BST (UK)
Hi Tazzie,
Got a brief connection with this saga. Brockliss and Robinson with Ivens.
Did the chemist ever get back to you?

I have re read this post so many times, there must be something in here that just keeps hiding   ;D
   Lesanne.
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: tazzie on Monday 06 August 07 14:46 BST (UK)


  Hi ...Lesanne..

 I emailed loads of stuff to you in April last year...did you not get it?
 I did not get an e-mail rejection. If not let me know and I will look for the stuff. I need to see if I still have it.

 So are they related to yours in some way?

 Got lots of bits to look through will get back  :)

                Tazzie
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Monday 06 August 07 21:58 BST (UK)
Oh Taz, sorry for getting you to look,  yep,
Found it under the mammoth Art project..   ::)
I had to re check the Cox family in London. I'm still none the wiser there and the Howe family, from Ireland? Hmmmm..

I have sooooo many notes/links/tree's. Everytime I re -read this, something else jumps out and off in another tangent. How time flies past.. :o

  :-\ Just bringing in the Robinson name with Ivens and Blake.

Did you have a look at the Harman / Rubidge in Steyning?

Best wishes,    Lesanne.    :D
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: topo on Friday 31 August 07 13:48 BST (UK)
Hi Lesanne
I'm curious about the Rubidge you mentioned. Who is he/she? My grandmother's second marriage in 1926 was to Robert Harry Christoper Rubidge in Brighton and I know he had a number of brothers and sisters - could he be related to your Rubidge?
kindest regards
topo
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Friday 31 August 07 18:33 BST (UK)
I'm not sure on that Topo, I'll have to search it out. Steyning was a huge reg dist, in its time. I believe it took in some of Hove area.
At the moment I'm trying to make the Cox/Howe a solid connection and just can't find it, although all the names are there....  ;D
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Monday 29 December 08 19:40 GMT (UK)
tried to post on t'other thread and it wouldn't let me  ::) (deep sigh)

wasn't the other thread a spin off from this one ?
after all you had answered the questioon you had originally posed

here was my answer :~
(I wonder if it wil make sense now )

ah ha yes seen him now
RG13; 1158; 105;  34.
(Fred snr 30 Margaret 36)

i see in 1901 there was another Cox family in Cookham at the same time of Fredericks birth

the 1901 ref for them is 
RG13; 1158;  47; 35.
RG13; 1160;  75;  17.
in case they fit in later

what was Fred snr occupation when his son was born?
coachman
1901 Cab Driver (Groom added later)
Margaret was bon Cardiffya
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Monday 29 December 08 19:45 GMT (UK)
looking for Margaret earlier on
1881 in Cardiff ? servant for a Williams family
RG11  5276;  128;  25

what d'ya reckon?
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Monday 29 December 08 19:55 GMT (UK)
so what do you think of Fred with mother Letitia ?
(1871 RG10;  799;  98;  20;)
gettng closer to home Freds sister was born Brighton  :)
and Letita was a coachmans wife b. Essex
 Coachman obviously travel its the purpose fo their business
where is Letitas husband ?

Marriages Mar 1866   Lambeth  1d 496   
BAKER  Letitia   
COX  William     

JONES  William       
MAY  Mary A     

Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Monday 29 December 08 20:02 GMT (UK)
seeing as this thread was back in 206 and it is nearly 2009 a new thread might be in order

however

i cannot find a marriage for Fred & Maraget and wondered if she was already married, its a shame that you can't def. pin your hopes on to Margaret in Kensington (or can you and i have missed something)
mayhap Margaret left the formerly / late of Fred jnrs birth cert not unusual
 

Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Monday 29 December 08 20:07 GMT (UK)
Letitia M Baker aged 10 in 1851 b. Eastwood Essex
same as Letitia in 1871 although age out slightly

so 1851 what seems to be Letitia family
HO107; 1777;  81;  3;

Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Monday 29 December 08 20:54 GMT (UK)
The thread has taken the wrong road to Buckinghamshire.........  >:(  >:(

Bbiab

Well, I can't add links now....  :-\
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Monday 29 December 08 21:27 GMT (UK)
Since when has a link to another thread been a copyright issue.........  >:(

Gonna open those Shortbread petticoat Tails......  bbiab...
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Monday 29 December 08 21:48 GMT (UK)
although the new thread you composed was linked to this one it had a different question and i dont think it should have been locked, after all my replies have no meaning on this thread
and this thread is dated 2006 and should have been left as a reference point
if chatters dont want to help / reply they dont have to it is not compulsory and
now i am trying to make some sort of sense of it all and see where we are at
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Monday 29 December 08 21:51 GMT (UK)
 >:( I can't transfer any material here either to help...............

My words to the dear people concerned.......... you can guess...........  >:(  >:(

No wonder Bramble cleared off from here..... what a great person they got rid of....
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Monday 29 December 08 21:53 GMT (UK)
well i nearly left before
i as just going to say can you transfer the stuff to this thread maybe alink then ?
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Monday 29 December 08 21:56 GMT (UK)
from the other thread!  

;) Where do I start.....  :-\

In the beginning, a birth cert for  Frederick William COX dropped through the letter box..  I have posted in several places trying to find his mothers ancestors. The more found, the more questions and has been put on the back shelf for ages.

I am hoping to find the marriage of Frederick's parents and the ancestors for his mum.

Info from birth cert:-
Frederick William COX
9th November 1893
North Town Maidenhead Berks
(Reg) Cookham

Father:- Frederick Cox   (Coachman)
Mother:- Margaret formerly HOWE

Tazzie, very kindly posted this.....   :P :P


Hi Lesanne  see what you can make of this.....

1851 census Stony Stratford HO107/1737 F171P14
High Street
Joseph Howe hd w 36 chemist &druggist Milton Keynes
Julia Ann dau 4                                         Stony Stratford
Elizabeth Howe niece 20                           Milton Keynes
William Robinson nephew 13 scholar         Milton Keynes
Avis Harvey mother in law w 55 housekeeper Warboys
Francis Clarke vis 60 annuitant                       Lillingstone Dayrell
Charles Cox ass u 23 assistant to chemist/druggist Middlesex
Caroline Baker u 20 servant                             Henley

1861 CENSUS High St Stony Stratford

Charles Cox hd m 33 chemist &druggist London Middlesex
Julia Cox wi m 35                                     Milton Keynes
William Robinson newphew 23 assistant Broughton M.K
Henry Howe nephew 15 apprentice druggist Milton Keynes
Henry Cox cousin 14 scholar                          Milton Keynes
Betsy Capel servant 26   servant                  Whaddon
John Buckingham servant 19                        Cosgrove
    RG9/929 F25 P13.
TAZZIE

                                      ???  :-\  ???




~~~~~~~~


Hi Les hope you had a lovely Christmas :) :)

     Have you got this in 1841?

      HO107 / 59 / 9/14/ 22

Joseph Howe age 25 b Buckinghamshire, occ chemist
Charlotte Howe age 25 b Buckinghamshire
Robert Wynters age 15
Mary Bouler age 15 b Buckinghamshire

Address High Street, Stony Stratford

       Sue


~~~~~~~~
Added Hi Sue... Biab


~~~~~~~~


From ages ago I found this.

RG9 17 ????
1861 Peel Street, Kensington, Middlesex

Joseph Howe 32  Mitchelstown
Julia      Howe 29 Somerset Bristol
Thomas 9 Wales cardiff
Catherine 8 Wales cardiff
Mary ann 6    "
Julia ann 5 Marylebone Middlesex
Margaret 2 Wales Cardiff >>>>>>> did she marry Frederick Cox  ::)


~~~~~~~~


a mini hunt  :o

8)

do you have the 1901 census for Frederick William it might be betetr to wok back from that and then try to fit te other Cox / Howe peeps into the family than the other way round
;)



~~~~~~~~


This Frederick Cox has a Mother.....  :D  her name is Letitia BAKER

as is the Caroline Baker (servant in 1851)

Sue... OH keeps calling to watch the Northern Lights on telly.... now big kid has come home from work...

Les
Added
oooooooooooo ello Toni...


~~~~~~~~


RG13;  1101;  43;  2.

Frederick Cox boarder aged 9 in an Ellis household along with Lilian Cox aged 8 but born Wokingham  :-\


~~~~~~~~


:) Yes 1901 and 1911 funny enough...  :D  :D

1901 Oldfield Road Maidenhead
Frederick Cox born Mistranscribed C'well Surrey but should be Ewell Surrey.
Margaret 36 Wales
Frederick William 1893
Ralph Percy 1895




Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Monday 29 December 08 22:02 GMT (UK)
Wahoooooooooo  ............. well done you.......  ;D  ;D  ;D

 ;)  Must just go see to Guinea Pigs....
            make sure they are all snuggerly.  ;)
       With plenty of food to munch.
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Monday 29 December 08 22:07 GMT (UK)
Trying to get acroooooss info from Valda.......  :-\

Once again the link to the reply is copyright....... what a load of...  tosh......
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Monday 29 December 08 22:07 GMT (UK)
ok Fred Wm Mother

Births Q1 1840   Baker  Letitia Myall     Rochford  12 202 (covers Eastwood)
1851 HO107; 1777;  81;  3;
1861
Marriages Mar 1866   Lambeth  1d 496    
BAKER  Letitia    
COX  William      

JONES  William      
MAY  Mary A  
1871 RG10;  799;  98;  19
1881
1891 (in the absence of an offical sighting L COx b. circa 1841 - RG12;  232; 145; 3; daughetr of Bookkeeper - i think) ST Lukes Hospital  :-\ lunatic
1901
Deaths Q2 1909    COX  Letitia  64  Wokingham  2c 226
1911 !

why do all the films play the cape fear music ?



Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Monday 29 December 08 22:10 GMT (UK)
I shall have to post a reply on that one to so you can pick it up Toni..........

Link..... Not working.........  >:(

If you go to the main index board .............. re Lookup 1871 Camberwell Cox.......
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Monday 29 December 08 22:22 GMT (UK)
nightmare  ::)

now Letiia Baker
in 1861 i have found 2 born Eastwood Essex
great

RG9;  1086;  77; 21;
sister of James and also sister of Hannah , Mary Ann and Job
this  would match with the 1851 census
seems like parents are no longer with them

or
RG9;  470;  238;  33;
where she is a servant to the Freeman family
i wonder if it is the sme Letita enumerated twice


will see if i ca find your other thread  :D
sorry neglected to say in 1851 your Letitia is also daughert of Letitia  :)
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Monday 29 December 08 22:29 GMT (UK)


If you go to the main index board .............. re Lookup 1871 Camberwell Cox.......

can't find it  ::)

am i on the right track with Letita?

where was William the coachman in 1871?

Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Monday 29 December 08 22:33 GMT (UK)
Hold on..........
I have the certificate for marriage that may be of good use to you.

William Cox + Letitia Baker 11 March 1866 at St Mary Lambeth. Surrey.
Fathers.... Joseph Cox.(gardener)  James Baker (desc) (Bootmaker)
wit J? L Sawler   and Edward Powell

Of course this would of been posted earlier if I had not had my wrists slapped by the wicked almighty.............. 3 hours ago...........  >:(
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Monday 29 December 08 22:42 GMT (UK)
woo hoo

Letita Baker b. 1815 Rochford Essex
mother of Letitia Baker b. 1840Eastwood who married William Cox in 1866
parents of your FredK Wm Cox

is here in 1841
 :D

HO107;  337;  4; 20; 7;
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Monday 29 December 08 22:46 GMT (UK)
 :-[ i misread i thought you meant you would liek Letta Bakers line not Maragret Howes  :-[
sorry

so waht do you think of the margaret who is a servant for the williams in cardiff in 1871 ?
on the other thread for somereason that didnt copy over ?
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Monday 29 December 08 22:47 GMT (UK)
looking for Margaret earlier on
1881 in Cardiff ? servant for a Williams family
RG11  5276;  128;  25

what d'ya reckon?

because it was on this thread  :-[
silly me
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Monday 29 December 08 22:49 GMT (UK)
 :) Toni that's great abt the Bakers in 1841.... There is that Caroline Baker with the Howe's at the start of this thread....
But just look as it will muck everything up again....
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Monday 29 December 08 22:49 GMT (UK)
woo hoo

JAMES BAKER  
  Married
    LETITIA MYALL HARVEY  
    16 OCT 1835   Eastwood, Essex, England
 

explains where Letita middle name comes from  
 :D

added - thats submitted  :-\
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Monday 29 December 08 22:51 GMT (UK)
Wahooo oooo wow yipeeeeeeeee......

Harvey now that is in here too......... I think.........

Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Monday 29 December 08 22:54 GMT (UK)
i think you should scrap Caroline until a link can be proved Baker isn't all that uncommon surname
well don't scarp her entirely just put her to the back of your mind

James Baker  was a Shoemaker and he was born in Essex
next door to their family was a William Baker an Ag lab and his little family
they can be foundon the ref i previously posted
(1841)
no Caroline in any of the families there is however a Susan aged 23 so not James or Williams daughter - sister maybe??? who knows
 ;)

why do you think Margaret Howe in Kensington belongs to you?
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Monday 29 December 08 22:56 GMT (UK)
 :D Toni... what about the Avis HARVEY...... where's Warboys ???

I'll see if it will 'bring across'
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Monday 29 December 08 22:57 GMT (UK)
HOWE  family
1901 Margaret Cox/Howe 36 in Maidenhead
1891 Margaret Howe 24 servant in Kensington
1881 Margaret Howe 18 servant in Cardiff, Glam.
1871 Margaret Howe 10 St Mary's Orphanage, Walthamstow. With sisters.
 Julia 13, Elizabeth 9, Ellen 7,  Rose? 4,
1861 Margaret Howe 2 in Kensington, with
Joseph Howe, 32,b Mitchelstown.
Julia, 29,b Somerset.
Thomas 9
Catherine 8
Maryann 6
Juleanna? 5

1893 Margaret HOWE has paired up with Frederick COX for a birth. Maidenhead
1866 William COX marriage Letitia BAKER Lambeth
1871 in Ewell, Epsom.
 1881 William Cox widower. in Abingdon.
Did the sisters become orphaned after Julia widowed?
Who was Charles Cox's father?.....

Tanja, Valda, CP, and more, have helped so much in finding this info. The Cox brothers from Essex seemed to spread far and wide after the decline of Cronford ?Park Estate near Stock Essex in the 1820/30.


okies this is your Maragret ???
what are we looking for ???
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Monday 29 December 08 22:57 GMT (UK)
Hi Lesanne  see what you can make of this.....

1851 census Stony Stratford HO107/1737 F171P14

High Street

 Joseph Howe hd w 36 chemist &druggist Milton Keynes
 Julia Ann dau 4                                         Stony Stratford
 Elizabeth Howe niece 20                           Milton Keynes
 William Robinson nephew 13 scholar         Milton Keynes
 Avis Harvey mother in law w 55 housekeeper Warboys
 Francis Clarke vis 60 annuitant                       Lillingstone Dayrell
 Charles Cox ass u 23 assistant to chemist/druggist Middlesex
 Caroline Baker u 20 servant                             Henley

 1861 CENSUS High St Stony Stratford

 Charles Cox hd m 33 chemist &druggist London Middlesex
 Julia Cox wi m 35                                     Milton Keynes
 William Robinson newphew 23 assistant Broughton M.K
 Henry Howe nephew 15 apprentice druggist Milton Keynes
 Henry Cox cousin 14 scholar                          Milton Keynes
 Betsy Capel servant 26   servant                  Whaddon
 John Buckingham servant 19                        Cosgrove


    RG9/929 F25 P13.


      TAZZIE


 
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Monday 29 December 08 22:58 GMT (UK)
  where's Warboys ???



huntingdon/cambs
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Monday 29 December 08 23:01 GMT (UK)
did youfollow William Cox back?
because i cant see hide no hair of him
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Monday 29 December 08 23:04 GMT (UK)
Did you see Avis Harvey Mother in law 55 in 1851 = 1796.
Could she be Letitia Myall Harvey's mother ??? wahooooo



Added
William Cox is Gabriel's grandson..

I have a birth cert for a Margaret. Hold on I'll post that valuable info as well......
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Monday 29 December 08 23:05 GMT (UK)
do you think s - she is listed as mother in law to Joseph Howe, i cant see how that can work out
Letitia husband was James Baker ? a shoemaker

i did find this though
a lil too early to be this Joseph

JOSEPH HOW married  ELIZABETH HARVEY   22 SEP 1814   All Saints, Fulbourn, Cambridge, England
 

Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Monday 29 December 08 23:08 GMT (UK)
 :o   ooo Toni you're on a roll there.... Just how do they go together.....  ;D
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Monday 29 December 08 23:10 GMT (UK)
of course Mother in law could mean step mother
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Monday 29 December 08 23:16 GMT (UK)
Marriages Q4 1845   Newport Pagnel  6 741
 
GUERNEY  Samuel       
GURNEY  Samuel       
Harris  Joseph     
Harvey  Ann     
HOWE  Joseph 
   
WILLETT  Mary     
WILLETT  Thomas     
WILSON  Mary       
WOODLAND  Elizabeth     


have not checked out the other possibilites

OH went to work to day and went to p* up all the money he earned tonight



Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Monday 29 December 08 23:17 GMT (UK)
Wm = Gabriel grandson but who be his parents?

~~~~

Births Q1 1847   
 
Howard  Julia     Newport Pagnell  6 41_
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Monday 29 December 08 23:19 GMT (UK)
Margaret Howe ~13 August 1859

Julia Ann Howe formerly Moloney?
Michael Joseph Howe (plasterer journeyman)

St John Cardiff Glamorgan
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Monday 29 December 08 23:20 GMT (UK)
 you got a choice  ::)


JOSEPH HOWE
 Christening:  24 MAY 1814   Milton Keynes, Buckingham, Parents:
  Father:  WILLIAM HOWE  
  Mother:  HANNAH    

JOSEPH HOW
 Christening:  13 AUG 1815   Milton Keynes,
  Father:  WILLIAM HOW
Mother:  HANNAH  

maybe the same couple me thinks #


Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Monday 29 December 08 23:21 GMT (UK)
WILLIAM HOWE OR HOW 
 married
  HANNAH PIGGOTT   
   09 OCT 1816   Milton Keynes, Buckingham, England
 
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Monday 29 December 08 23:22 GMT (UK)
is Cardiff Glamorgan or Monmouthshire



Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Monday 29 December 08 23:24 GMT (UK)
I just tried to link you to the Cox's at Stock and Hanningfield thread.

William's father is Joseph Cox b1805 Essex.

Funny thing is 1911 for Frederick snr is
Mistranscribed from Ewell Surrey to Ely Cambs  :o
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Monday 29 December 08 23:26 GMT (UK)
i saw
 ;D

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,346641.msg2282519.html#msg2282519
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Pels. on Monday 29 December 08 23:27 GMT (UK)




Is this supposed to be a serious thread .. ?

Sorry .. I just wondered .. ?
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Gadget on Monday 29 December 08 23:29 GMT (UK)
I was also wondering the same.

Not sure if I'm on the right Forum anymore  :-\


gnu
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Monday 29 December 08 23:31 GMT (UK)
of course this is a serious thread we are looking to connect the COx/ Howes etc

are you lost ?

see post 82 / 81
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Monday 29 December 08 23:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Pels... It certainly is...........

I can't transfer links ..........

Edited for language
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Monday 29 December 08 23:42 GMT (UK)
i think

well i wont post what i think

~~~~~~
SO Ann Harvery m. Joseph Howe (not sure how these connect to Margaret yet?)

Ann seems to be the daughetr of AVis

somehow Jospeh & Ann have a nephew William ROBINSON

so how did that happen ?

does Ann or Jospeh nave a sister whom married Mr Robinson

Charles Cox is an assitant chemist he may or may not be related to margarets husband Fred

and they also happen to have a servant Caroline Baker who may o rmay not be related to the Cox's through maragrets husband frederick who was son of William cox and Letitia Baker

and William Cox is the grandson of Gabriel Cox
 




 
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Monday 29 December 08 23:42 GMT (UK)
 :D So, after that brief interlude, where were we.....

Margaret Howe ~13 August 1859

Julia Ann Howe formerly Moloney?
Michael Joseph Howe (plasterer journeyman)

St John Cardiff Glamorgan

and
Hi Lesanne  see what you can make of this.....

1851 census Stony Stratford HO107/1737 F171P14

High Street

 Joseph Howe hd w 36 chemist &druggist Milton Keynes
 Julia Ann dau 4                                         Stony Stratford
 Elizabeth Howe niece 20                           Milton Keynes
 William Robinson nephew 13 scholar         Milton Keynes
 Avis Harvey mother in law w 55 housekeeper Warboys
 Francis Clarke vis 60 annuitant                       Lillingstone Dayrell
 Charles Cox ass u 23 assistant to chemist/druggist Middlesex
 Caroline Baker u 20 servant                             Henley

 1861 CENSUS High St Stony Stratford

 Charles Cox hd m 33 chemist &druggist London Middlesex
 Julia Cox wi m 35                                     Milton Keynes
 William Robinson newphew 23 assistant Broughton M.K
 Henry Howe nephew 15 apprentice druggist Milton Keynes
 Henry Cox cousin 14 scholar                          Milton Keynes
 Betsy Capel servant 26   servant                  Whaddon
 John Buckingham servant 19                        Cosgrove


    RG9/929 F25 P13.


      TAZZIE


 

woo hoo

Letita Baker b. 1815 Rochford Essex
mother of Letitia Baker b. 1840Eastwood who married William Cox in 1866
parents of your FredK Wm Cox

is here in 1841
 :D

HO107;  337;  4; 20; 7;

Hope this comes out OK  ::)
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Monday 29 December 08 23:52 GMT (UK)
Marriages Q41854   
 
Cox  Charles    Newport Pagnell  3a 720   
Howe  Julia Jane     Newport P  3a 720

Julia Janes  bp appears on IGI
i saw it earlier
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Gadget on Monday 29 December 08 23:53 GMT (UK)
is Cardiff Glamorgan or Monmouthshire





http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Cardiff/
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Monday 29 December 08 23:58 GMT (UK)
by my powers of deduction i have worked out :~

Jospeh Howe has a sister Julia Jane
23 JUL 1825   Milton Keynes, (d/o William & hannha nee Piggott)

Julia Jane married Joseph's assistant Charles Cox

Julia Jane & Jospeh have a sister who married Mr RObinson and this sister had a child William circa 1838

Joseph m. Ann Harvey d/o Avis Harvey and had a daughter Julia
 Ann died before 1851 and after (or during the birth of Julia )Q1 1847

Julia Jane had a broher who had a son Henry (was this Joseph? i don't think so i think t was another brother)

Henry Cox seems to be the cousin of Charles Cox


 

~~~~

thank you GNu i thought it was Galmorgan and then had a second thought which was why i asked

I stil cant see Margarets bp there though  and therefore no siblings


Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 30 December 08 00:08 GMT (UK)
 :D
The cert has:-
  GENEDIGAETH yn Is-ddosbarth Cardiff yn Counties of Glamorgan and Monmouth

And with that I wish you all a goodnight... and  Newport Pagnell Buckinghamshire, doesn't mind a thread that has Stock, Camberwell, Maidenhead, West Hanningfield, Ireland, Wales, Bristol, Ewell, Essex, Berkshire, everywhere BUT Buckinghamshire...............  ;D ;D
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Tuesday 30 December 08 15:10 GMT (UK)
mayhap ye coulde rename thys thread Les, for ay doth see that thee new topic hafth been locked alreadie

Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 30 December 08 15:23 GMT (UK)
Hi Toni, It's OK..
I'm in the middle of doing what I attempted the first time. 
 But locking the topic untill I can get all the info on there......... saves people jumping the gun and posting when... etc etc.........  :D  :D

When the mods have agreed that it's ready to open then I can unlock it and off we go......... I just hope nobody post's while I'm putting stuff 'up'....  :-\
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Tuesday 30 December 08 15:24 GMT (UK)
posts on here?
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 30 December 08 15:26 GMT (UK)
No... on the new one..... ;)  I'll ask...when...
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: tazzie on Tuesday 30 December 08 15:33 GMT (UK)



   Hi Lesanne.....

  Blimey are you back on this lot. Shout as I may have my old notes and scribbles somewhere............. :D

                     Tazzie
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 30 December 08 15:36 GMT (UK)
Hi Tazzie.... hang on to those notes...........   
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: tazzie on Tuesday 30 December 08 15:41 GMT (UK)


    ::)  Oh  I feel a headache coming ....ok will look them out.


                 Tazzie
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 30 December 08 15:54 GMT (UK)
Rightio... The new topic in the common room is locked.
The mods want to look it over and then allow me to open it up for general posting.

I tried to copy over the link but it goes to copyright issues again.....  :-\ I don't really know why.. I've been doing that very thing since abt 7.30 this morning....

I'll see if I can find out when we can start work on it.

Les
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Trees on Tuesday 30 December 08 15:58 GMT (UK)
Hi Lesanne,
St John's church in Cardiff is lovely right in the city center between the market and the concert hall If you would like a photo ask Sapling to take a few. My brother sang a solo there at his school carol service many many moons ago There is a carved wooden screen between the congregation and choir. It has a splendid ring of bells too.
Trees
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 30 December 08 16:03 GMT (UK)
Hello Trees  ;)  Thanks for that offer. I've never been to Cardiff. If that's the right Margaret and she comes from Wales, it would be nice to have some pic's.
Thanks again.
Les
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Trees on Tuesday 30 December 08 16:04 GMT (UK)
Just a thought there is also St John's Canton Cardiff it was where Fapling was baptised but i am pretty sure the one you are interested is the one in town
Trees
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: CPO on Tuesday 30 December 08 16:05 GMT (UK)
How far back does your Howe line go back? I'm trying to establish my Howe's of Hatfield Broad Oak before 1650. Could we be connected?

Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 30 December 08 16:07 GMT (UK)
Hi Folks, Bear with me.... I have to put on some more stuff to get it unlocked. BBIAB.
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 30 December 08 16:47 GMT (UK)
Rightio... thats done.  Hope its alright now..  :-\
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Tuesday 30 December 08 18:38 GMT (UK)
no link ???
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Berlin-Bob on Tuesday 30 December 08 18:58 GMT (UK)
Lesanne,

As you have so much data about these families, I've added a possibility how you might be able to sort the data a bit better.


http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,350166.0.html

hope it helps,
Bob
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Berlin-Bob on Tuesday 30 December 08 19:45 GMT (UK)
The discussion with Lesanne about her summary topic is being continued by PM.
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Tuesday 30 December 08 20:00 GMT (UK)
I am hoping to find the marriage of Frederick's parents and the ancestors for his mum.

Info from birth cert:-
Frederick William COX
9th November 1893
North Town Maidenhead Berks
(Reg) Cookham

Father:- Frederick Cox   (Coachman)
Mother:- Margaret formerly HOWE

i think this is what Les is trying to find out and the other posts were to help
i mean we dont want duplications do we

we are not sure that the Margaret previously found is the correct one, with nothing to verify it , no marraige for Fred and Margaret
of course thismeans that the Margaret found could well be Les margaret
i guess shes looking for some sort of proof.

HOWE  family
1901 Margaret Cox/Howe 36 in Maidenhead
1891 Margaret Howe 24 servant in Kensington
1881 Margaret Howe 18 servant in Cardiff, Glam.
1871 Margaret Howe 10 St Mary's Orphanage, Walthamstow. With sisters.
 Julia 13, Elizabeth 9, Ellen 7,  Rose? 4,
1861 Margaret Howe 2 in Kensington, with
Joseph Howe, 32,b Mitchelstown.
Julia, 29,b Somerset.
Thomas 9
Catherine 8
Maryann 6
Juleanna? 5

1893 Margaret HOWE has paired up with Frederick COX for a birth. Maidenhead
1866 William COX marriage Letitia BAKER Lambeth
1871 in Ewell, Epsom.
 1881 William Cox widower. in Abingdon.
Did the sisters become orphaned after Julia widowed?
Who was Charles Cox's father?.....

Tanja, Valda, CP, and more, have helped so much in finding this info. The Cox brothers from Essex seemed to spread far and wide after the decline of Cronford ?Park Estate near Stock Essex in the 1820/30.


i thought that objective was clear ???

 


Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 30 December 08 20:26 GMT (UK)
Hi Toni,

         Im sat here now for ages not knowing if i should post this info i have found or not ???

  Any ideas, do i post here or wait, confused again :)

            Sue
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Tuesday 30 December 08 20:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Sue, go ahead and post it
i have been  :)
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 30 December 08 20:38 GMT (UK)
Well, I've just deleted all the links to the topics that were causing such a rumpus.

Then main bits I had posted up anyway. 

Keep on about summarising..  How do you summarise census lists?
 Phew..... what next.......  :-\
                                             14 hours I've been at this.... and still at the beginning.
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Tuesday 30 December 08 20:40 GMT (UK)
but still not open for business

Henry Cox and Cousin Charles Cox , hmm have we directly linked them to Fred or not ?
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 30 December 08 20:43 GMT (UK)
No Toni not at all.
I wonder if they are part of the Essex Cox's that drifted to middx.
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 30 December 08 20:44 GMT (UK)
 :) ooo Hello Sue.. just seen you... post away, it's not going to get on the other one.
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 30 December 08 20:46 GMT (UK)

 Ok........ Found this burial in Abingdon St Helens PRs

 Jan 3 1878 Letitia Cox of Northcourt age 37

  And this is from St Michaels Abingdon PRs
  
  Baptism
10 Aug 1876 Elizabeth Cox dau of William and Letitia of Northcourt, occ coachman

  Do we know any of their other children?  Is it worth me searching to see if William remarried?


    Sue :)

                        

        
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Tuesday 30 December 08 20:47 GMT (UK)
i guess to summarise censs give ref and ppl present details as you would and then for example if the details you have given be for the 1851 censsu then for 1861 say all as 1851 with additions / minus these ppl and still give ref so we can look for ourselevs and any changes in occupation p.o.b etc and so on and so on


~~~~~

what happened to Letitia L Cox Freds sister?
according to the 1871 census she was born in Brighton but i can't see a birth for her  

~~~~

will work on Henry & Charles parentage
~~~

can't seemt o help with Margaret Howe, no marriage betwixt her and Fred snr, unless they ran away to get married  :o
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Tuesday 30 December 08 20:48 GMT (UK)
Sue , William & Letitia had Letitia L b. in Brighton according to the 1871 census i think she was aged 3
 
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 30 December 08 20:52 GMT (UK)
In 1881 William at Northcourt had 3 children
Frederick, Louisa Letitia, and William.

he was a widow.
I have no idea if he remarried. or what happened to William
I hadn't found Elizabeth

I'll look for louisa wedding.

Yep Louisa letitia marries Ernest Hester in Marlow 1903.

Still can't post pictures.............  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 30 December 08 20:53 GMT (UK)
It's Brixton Toni....  :D
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Tuesday 30 December 08 21:20 GMT (UK)
It's Brixton Toni....  :D
no wonder i couldnt find her

was you meant to post the marriage on t'other thread ?
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 30 December 08 21:23 GMT (UK)
Had to Toni... only a guest on this one... just for a while though... ::)
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Tuesday 30 December 08 21:26 GMT (UK)
oh

it doesnt make sense on t'other thread

looking for Henry Cox b. circa 1846 Milton Keynes in 1851 to find with parents hopefully and see how he relates to Charles
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 30 December 08 21:30 GMT (UK)
In 1881 William at Northcourt had 3 children
Frederick, Louisa Letitia, and William.

he was a widow.
I have no idea if he remarried. or what happened to William
I hadn't found Elizabeth

I'll look for louisa wedding.

Yep Louisa letitia marries Ernest Hester in Marlow 1903.

Still can't post pictures.............  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 30 December 08 22:04 GMT (UK)
No definate sighting of Margaret Howe B4 1893 on birth cert of Fred in Mhead.

Lookingoon 1851 for her parents in Cardiff.
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 30 December 08 22:11 GMT (UK)

 Is this them in 1901?

    RG13 / 1158 / 105 / 34

Frederick Cox head age 30 b Ewell, occ cab driver
Margaret wife age 36 b Glamorganshire, occ housewife
Frederick William son age 7 b Maidenhead
Ralph Percy son age 5 b Maidenhead

 Address 30 Oldfield Road, Maidenhead

       Sue

Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Tuesday 30 December 08 22:14 GMT (UK)
That should be 1901 Sue....  :)
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 30 December 08 22:16 GMT (UK)

 On original census it says Fredericks occ is cab driver/ groom worker :)

           Sue

 Added..... i just changed it Les ;D ;D  Its getting late ;D
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Tuesday 30 December 08 22:17 GMT (UK)
i'm looking and not finding anything
 ::)

not even Henry Cox b. Milton Keynes only Henry Howe b. Milton Keynes at right time
and thus am confusing myself

so i am turning off now
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 30 December 08 22:26 GMT (UK)


 If Frederick and Margaret's son was b abt 1894 they hopefully married just before :) :)

 So why cant i find the marriage ???

       Sue
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: jamajo on Tuesday 30 December 08 22:57 GMT (UK)


 Im going round in circles so calling it a night :)

 Will try with fresh eyes in morn ;D ;D

    Nite :)
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: JAP on Thursday 01 January 09 05:33 GMT (UK)
Hello Lesanne,

Cut/Copy & Paste
Re your concerns about not being able to cut/copy and paste.
This discussion is currently on the Buckinghamshire Lookup Requests board - though the thread departed from the original 1861 census lookup request some years back. 
I was under the impression that the facility to cut and paste had been disabled on all "Lookup Request" threads for copyright reasons.  But I've had no problem in this post using Ctrl-C followed by Ctrl-V.  Perhaps it is just 'right click' which is disabled?  Perhaps the Board Moderator would advise?

Where to now?
I am a newcomer to this particular puzzle and I am finding it very hard to come to grips with it.

I've read this (Buckinghamshire lookup) thread and the (currently locked) thread in the Common Room.

For my own benefit, I've tried to sort out what are proven facts working back from you through your Grandfather (Gf COX) to his ancestors, what is likely but not (yet) proven, and what is speculative.

I hope you'll bear with me while I start again from scratch and go One Step At A Time trying to understand what proof there is for each step into the past.

Sorry to be such a pain but as you well know it's best to try to confirm the most recent generations before moving on to earlier generations just in case they might turn out not to be yours ...

In the (currently locked) Common Room thread, you say:
Quote from: Lesanne

Marriage cert of  Frederick William (jnr)26yrs to Florence Levitt.28yrs (wid).
 22 November 1919. M’head Berks.
Residence at time .. 16, Cordwallis Street.
Wits. Daniel Weston (?Brides uncle?) Margaret Cox (grooms mother?)

                 This marriage is the only certain fact I have.
Just for completeness, I note from FreeBMD and other threads that Florence Louisa LEVITT was nee WESTON. It seems that she married John Blackburn LEVITT in 1915, they possibly had children, and JB LEVITT died in 1918 in WW1.

Perhaps you might transcribe the full marriage certificate of Frederick & Florence?  Including the occupation of Frederick William COX, and the name and occupation of his father?

Do you have Gf COX's birth certificate? Does it have Ggf Frederick William COX & Florence (WESTON) LEVITT as his parents?  Occupation of Ggf COX?

Do you have the death certificate of Ggf COX?  Age?

You say:
Quote from: Lesanne

I have a birth cert of a Frederick William Cox.  9 November 1893. North Town. M’head Berks.
Father.Frederick Cox. Cabman.. Mother. Margaret Cox formerly Howe.
Address? Informant?
Certainly looks likely for Ggf COX - but no proof.

You have what seems to be the above family in the 1901 census.
RG13 / 1158 / 105 / 34
30 Oldfield Road, Maidenhead, Berkshire
Frederick Cox head age 30 b Ewell, Surrey, occ cab driver
Margaret wife age 36 b Glamorganshire, occ housewife
Frederick William son age 7 b Maidenhead
Ralph Percy son age 5 b Maidenhead
This looks very likely to be Gggf COX and his son Ggf COX - but no proof.

Did Gf COX know his grandparents?  Does he have any particular memories of them?  Did he believe that his Ggm's maiden name was HOWE, and if so why?  Does he remember any uncles, aunts, cousins etc (e.g. an Uncle Ralph??) which might provide leads and help prove that you have the right family?  Does he remember any HOWE relatives?
Do you or your parents have any relevant relatives whom you could trace backwards and possibly find some leads?

You've said re Gf COX:
Quote from: Lesanne
He also has a watercolour picture of a soldier wearing a bearskin, big furry hat?? and says the soldier is a lieut col retired. He believes that soldier to be his dad.
Perhaps you could scan that and the army experts could make suggestions?  Though there is, I think, no proof (yet) that the picture is of a relative.
Your thread at:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,54029.0.html
has some interesting material re buttons, medals, ribbons etc which Gf COX believes to be his father's.  Could you scan these?  Have you followed these up?  I think you said you had his service history from the number on one of these artefacts.  Could you provide the details?

I think I recall that somewhere it was mentioned that 16 Cordwallis St (Ggf's residence at the time of his marriage) had some connexions with other COXs??  Could you remind of us of these?

Well, as I said, I'm sorry to be such a pain but it really would be good to be able to confirm that Frederick William COX b 1893 in Maidenhead IS your Ggf as the very first step!

Very best of luck,

JAP
PS:  If the Common Room thread is activated, perhaps a Mod could move this post to it?
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: JAP on Thursday 01 January 09 05:52 GMT (UK)
Hi Lesanne,

Here is a list of some of your other relevant (and possibly/probably relevant) threads!

I don't think I would have started this list had I realized how many threads there are!

The puzzle has been under way for several years and a fantastic amount of information has been found by some wonderful RootsChatters who are still eagerly helping - it would certainly be great if, step by step, you could now go backwards proving (or disproving) each generation before proceeding back to the preceding generation ...  Perhaps some fresh eyes might help - though I doubt it  :D

Best of luck,

JAP

The latest thread
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,350121.0.html
Not for the faint hearted.... COX & HOWE redesigned topic... (The Common Room Board - currently locked)

Other threads (some are currently active)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,50970.0.html
Frederick and Margaret COX - Maidenhead. When & Where? (Berkshire Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,50992.0.html
1871/91 look up. please. for COX family. (Census Lookup and Resource Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,51132.0.html
1851 - FROME - COX. Census lookup please.  (Somerset Completed Lookup Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,51166.0.html
Um..Perhaps 1871/ 81 Lookup for burial. - COX. (Somerset Lookup Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,51240.msg203970.html#msg203970
Ah- ha!! How about 1891 census. Cox. (Somerset Completed Lookup Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,51491.0.html
1891 lookup please. COX, Frederick William.(Census Lookup and Resource Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,51645
Lookup please. 1871 Camberwell Surrey. COX (Census Lookups and Resource Requests. Completed Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,51687.0.html
Cox~With OR without Cripplegate in St Giles, Camberwell? (Surrey Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,53188.0.html
1851 census for West Hanningfield./ Stock. COX family.(Essex Lookup Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,54029.0.html
A Big Furry Hat = Soldier /or Guard? (Armed Forces Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,55682.0.html
1891 Look up Please. Cookham. ~COX family. (Berkshire Lookup Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,55571.0.html
Looking for Robert William COX (Berkshire Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,58304.0.html
'61 ~ '71 Lookup please for Stock/W.Hanningfield (Essex Lookup Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,58521.0.html
1891 Look up Please ~COX~  (Census Lookup and Resource Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,58814.0.html
Going Crazy or Gone! ~ COX again~Fred 1891 Please. (Census Lookups and Resource Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,61850.0.html
1901 lookups please - Cox (2 requests!) (Essex Lookup Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,69580.0.html
Parish Records~COX and WRIGHT~ West Hanningfield c1770. (Essex Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,104962.0.html
1891~Lookup please~ COX~ Maidenhead (Berkshire Lookup Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,110787.0.html
1871/91 Lookup please ~ Margaret HOWE~ Cardiff  (Glamorganshire Lookup Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,116123.0.html
1901 London Whitechapel ~ Howe/Cox Lookup Please. (London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,121341.0.html
1891 William Cocks ~ Cookham Berks ~ Lookup needed please. (Berkshire Lookup Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,121760.0.html
1901 Lookup please.~ Frederick Cox~ Maidenhead. (Berkshire Lookup Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,136968.0.html
Charles COX - 1841 Lookup Please - Middx (London & Middlesex Lookup Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,135977.0.htm
Trying to find Frederick Cox b Ewell 1870. (Armed Forces Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,142961.0.html
1891-?- Why O Why is he missing? Abroad? War? Jail? (The Common Room Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,174236.0.html
William Cox s/o William Cox ~ Surrey (Surrey Lookup Requests Board)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,346641
COX ~ Stock & Hanningfield's (Essex Board)

And finally the latest thread (entered at the top of this list) on the Common Room - http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,350121.0.html
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Abiam2 on Thursday 01 January 09 12:09 GMT (UK)
Marking the post as I may have a Cocks contact,
Abiam
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Thursday 01 January 09 14:53 GMT (UK)
Hi Jap i'm sure Lesanne will appreciate your help
Happy new year
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Friday 02 January 09 10:42 GMT (UK)
 :D My goodness..Thank you so much for that list JAP   :-*
I have not long long found it, as my email notification isn't working.

I shall go through them and see what was found.
 Thanks again.

Lesanne.
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Little Nell on Friday 02 January 09 20:22 GMT (UK)
Lesanne,

I wonder if you have seen this website:

http://www.worley.org.uk

Search for Cox..........

May be worth contacting to find out where the information came from and how much documentary proof there is.  ;)

(Sorry this is not really related to this thread, but one of the umpteen others, but this is the "current" one so I'll add it here.
Found a Maidenhead directory today - can't remember the exact date, possibly 1930s? - there were three by the name of Frederick William Cox living in Maidenhead, let alone any of the others. )

Nell

 
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: Lesanne on Friday 02 January 09 21:06 GMT (UK)
       >:( >:(   He is one of those people who collects names............ even the fictitious ones I added to my tree just to find out if he checked the information............

  Obviously he doesn't...........    ;D



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Added  I'm reading through the threads JAP kindly listed.... Many have no replies, or 1 reply, some completed as I now know the wrong family(Wanstrow area). Etc.
Title: Re: COX / HOWE. ~ Newport Pagnell ~ c1861.
Post by: toni* on Tuesday 06 January 09 09:07 GMT (UK)
fear not i have returned  ;)