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Title: inns/pubs/hotels 1881
Post by: cazza on Friday 24 February 06 22:17 GMT (UK)
Hello

Does anybody know or have any knowledge of where or what happened to Royal George Arms, Clayton Sussex as it was in the 1871 census. By 1881 it was known as Royal George Hotel. London Road Clayton, I believe that my great great great grandparents ran this pub and although i have tried searches on the internet for it I have turned up a blank if it is still around would like to visit.
Any information that anybody may have would be really appreciated , even if its an old photograph
Title: Re: inns/pubs/hotels 1881
Post by: sillgen on Monday 27 February 06 19:45 GMT (UK)
Can you give a census reference and the names of your ancestors?   That way we can see whereabouts it was in the village and someone local might be able to say what it is now.
Andrea
Title: Re: inns/pubs/hotels 1881
Post by: cazza on Monday 27 February 06 20:47 GMT (UK)
Hi Andrea yes sorry should have done that.
the information I have is
1871 census

Royal George Arms, Clayton Sussex

James Godley 1841 Clayton Sussex Head Inn Keeper
Hepzibah Godley  1837  Chailey, Sussex,Wife
William James Godley 1860  Clayton, Sussex,  Son   
Annie Elizabeth Godley 1862  Clayton, Sussex, Daughter   
Ellen Mary Godley 1864 Keymer Sussex,  Daughter   
George Godley 1866  Keymer, Sussex,  Son
Walter John Godley 1868  Keymer, Sussex,Son
Frederick Godley  1870  Keymer, Sussex,  Son   
Richard Godley  1870  Clayton, Sussex,  Son 
Ruth Demmon(or Denman) -difficult to read 1794 Hamsey Sussex Visitor Needlewoman

RG10/1064 Cuckfield Folio 75 Page 35
and also
1881 census

Royal George Hotel. London Road Clayton

James 1841  Clayton, Sussex,  Head   Licecensed Victualler
Walter James  1868  Keymer, Sussex,  Son  Dairyman
Albert Edward  1874  Clayton, Sussex,  Son
Annie Godly  1862  Clayton, Sussex,  Daughter Barmaid
Ellen Mary  1864  Keymer, Sussex,Daughter Barmaid 
Frederick   1871  Clayton, Sussex,  Son 
George 1866  Keymer, Sussex,  Son Ostler   
Richard   1873  Clayton, Sussex,  Son
Moses Burt  1832  Hurstpierpoint, Sussex,  Servant
 John A. Foster 1850  Liverpool, Lancashire, Boarder

RG11/1066  Cuckfield Hurstpierpoint Folio 6 Page 6
thankyou for any help.
Title: Re: inns/pubs/hotels 1881
Post by: sillgen on Monday 27 February 06 21:05 GMT (UK)
Just as a matter of interest have you got them in 1851 when they are at the Friar's Oak Clayton?  HO107 1642 F529  James is age 9.
Andrea
Title: Re: inns/pubs/hotels 1881
Post by: sillgen on Monday 27 February 06 21:22 GMT (UK)
In 1861 his father George is running the Royal George and it appears to be next to Avery Cottage and St Johns Common.   James is described as an ag lab.  He is living at St Johns Common with Hephzibah and William James
 RG9 583 F121 p3
Andrea
Title: Re: inns/pubs/hotels 1881
Post by: cazza on Monday 27 February 06 21:36 GMT (UK)
Hi Andrea the information as far as I have managed so far to go back to is
St John's Court, Clayton, Sussex 1861

James Godley  1837  Clayton, Sussex,  Head  Agricultural labourer
Hephzibah Godley  1836  Chailey, Sussex,  Wife 
William James Godley  1860  Clayton, Sussex,  Son 

 
RG9/583 Cuckfield Folio 121 page 3
Thanks for this though can look up some more info I have tried http://www.1881pubs.com/ and no trace so far

Title: Re: inns/pubs/hotels 1881
Post by: sillgen on Friday 03 March 06 17:23 GMT (UK)
My husband took a drive through Clayton but failed to find anything that might have been the Royal George.   There was one called the Jack and Jill - the only one there now.  The landlord did not think it had changed name.   
Andrea
Title: Re: inns/pubs/hotels 1881
Post by: janan on Friday 03 March 06 17:49 GMT (UK)
The Friar's Oak Inn is on the London Rd between Clayton and Burgess Hill. The only Royal George I can find reference to is in London Rd Burgess Hill. Was trying to have a scout round on http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ but the site stopped working.

This site might be of interest

http://www.pubhistory.freeserve.co.uk/phs/ancestors.htm

Jan ;)
Title: Re: inns/pubs/hotels 1881
Post by: janan on Friday 03 March 06 18:03 GMT (UK)
Got Old-maps working, St John's Common is in Burgess Hill near the Royal George Inn - so that would appear to be the one, so why does it say Clayton ???

Jan ;)
Title: Re: inns/pubs/hotels 1881
Post by: sillgen on Friday 03 March 06 18:14 GMT (UK)
We have just had all the maps out all over the kitchen too!   My husband actually had a drink in the Friar's Oak - all in the interests of research you understand!   That seems to have changed its name quite frequently.  It was the Pilgrim Goose not so long ago but has now reverted.    Clayton district obviously covered a much wider area than just the Clayton bit and of course Burgess Hill would have been a very minor place in those days.   It would be worth looking at the enumerator's route on the census records you have to see where they were exactly.
Andrea
Title: Re: inns/pubs/hotels 1881
Post by: sillgen on Friday 03 March 06 18:17 GMT (UK)
I have just remembered that the Royal George in B Hill was on the London Road.   It has very recently been pulled down and posh new flats put up.
Andrea
Title: Re: inns/pubs/hotels 1881
Post by: janan on Friday 03 March 06 18:23 GMT (UK)
That's a shame Cazza you won't be able to visit it :(
Might be worth contacting the local museum to see if they have a picture - Bridport museum were able to come up trumps for me with a photo of a pulled down pub my ancestors ran.

Jan ;)
Title: Re: inns/pubs/hotels 1881
Post by: spower on Friday 13 November 09 14:15 GMT (UK)
George Godley ran the Friars Oak inn at Clayton (or Hassocks now). It's still there but don't bother asking them about the history. When the nearby commons of Wivelsfield, Clayton & Keymer were enclosed, to form Burgess Hill, the Friars Oak Inn was used for public meetings and to view the plots available. During the sale George bought a piece of land and built a pub on it which he called the Royal George. It's since been knocked down but was on the corner of Royal George Rd. When he moved he left his son to run the Friars Oak. Various family members ran other pubs in and around Burgess Hill such as The Plough, The Cricketers, The Burgess Hill Inn etc. The Godleys were a well known local family and crop up quite often in local history books and old newspapers.