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Elizabeth Rickwood born 1871 west ham had brother Edward Rickwood born1869 West Ham.
father was William Rickwood born ?1838 Patrixbourne Kent and lived with his family in Bridge 1861. I know he was east kent militia but otherwise cannot find him or until the children appear in the 1901 census.
Who did he marry if he was married and who gave birth to Elizabeth.
How do i find out?
can anyone help?
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Hi
The FULL BMD index is now available to search free of charge at www.ancestry.co.uk. You will find it described as England & Wales, BMD Index (Beta)
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Copy certificates can be obtained online at www.gro.gov.uk
This appears to be the family on the 1871 census in West Ham - 12 Stephenson (street?)
Alfred Darker 19 b Holcot Northamptonshire Boarder
Edward Rickwood 2 b Plaistow Son
Eliza Rickwood 24 Birmingham Wife
Elizabeth Rickwood 8 months b Plaistow Daughter
John Rickwood 5 b Patrick Bourne Kent Son
Silas Rickwood 22 b Patrick Bourne Boarder
William Rickwood 31 b Patrick Bourne Head Labourer
William Rickwood 4 b Plaistow Son
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Hi
This looks like them in 1871
Jan ;)
12 Stephenson T, West Ham
William Rickwood Head Mar 31 Labourer Kent Patrixbourne
Eliza do Wife 34 Labourer's wife Warwick Birmingham
John do Son 5 Kent Patrixbourne
William so do 4 Essex Plaistow
Edward do do 2 do do
Elizabeth do Dau 8mnths Essex Plaistow
RG10/1630/100 Pg38
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Plus, Janan, boarders Silas Rickwood, unmarried, 22, labourer, born Patrixbourne (younger brother?)
and Alfred Darker, unmarried, 19, labourer born Holcot Northants
Charles
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Yes missed them over the page :-[
Also in same house but separate household is
Daniel Hawes Head Mar 22 Labourer East Durham
Sarah do Wife 22 Kent Charlton
Cheers Jan ;)
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In 81 their address was 44 Bell and Anchor West Ham.
William snr is now a coal porter.
There are Eliza, John, Edward, Elizabeth, plus new arrivals Selina, 8, Mabel,3, and a son whose name I can't read, 5.
Silas is still there. He's also a coal porter. Plus three lodgers.
Charles
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1891
44 Chapel St, West Ham
William still a coal porter. Eliza is there. Sons John and Edward are coal porters. The son whose name I still can't read is a shop boy. And lastly there's Mabel.
Charles
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The other son in 81 and 91 looks like Irton - not a name I've heard of ???
Silas is listed as Brother in 81.
Good team work :D
Jan ;)
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Jan, we only half answered the original question, who was Elizabeth Rickwood's mother? :D
There was a marriage Sept qtr West Ham 1864 - 4a 45. Unfortunately William Rickwood is the only name on the page!
Charles
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As their first child was born in Kent I'm wondering if they met and married there. There is an Eliza Mckendrick born Birmingham living in Shipborne, Kent in 1861 but she is only 10 :-\ Can't see a marriage for her.
Jan ;)
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I've got no further either. Sorry, Linmack.
Charles
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Hi Charles,
If everything else fails, you can still order one of the children's birth certs. I can see for instance:
Selina Ellen Rickwood
Birth June quarter 1872
West Ham
4a 75
Tanja :)
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Linmack
Agree with Tanja, ordering one of the children's birth certificates is probably your best bet to find Eliza's maiden name.
Jan ;)
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I am so thrilled at how kind you all are in helping me. I only came across this site by accident and now I am totally hooked. I will pick up on your suggestion, thanks. I am a complete novice at this but keen to learn. I have posted a reply on anothers request as I have photos of someone elses Gt gt gt.... This is great community.
I have some more info that may or not help. The east kent militia connection has drwan blanks so far!
Eliza Rickwood had her first child 27 Mar 1863 called John in Patrixbourne Kent In the 1871 census John and the familly lived 12 stephenson st Wesr Ham but was declared to be 5yr old implying dob 1866. now we know she married her husband William sept 1864 in West ham so presumably married after the child was born. ?illegitamate Now I also know as I have his passbook that William was in the East Kent Militia payroll no 1950 he drew uniform as follows :-Woolwich 1858 Aldershot 1859 and Portsmouth 1860. He jotted down names and addresses in it also and had written in Johns dob details. Also I have Eliza's gold pocket watch dated 1862 with her name on the seperate winder which has a seal on the end. The family rumour it was awarded for nursing service onboard ship yet she would only have been 15yr old so could this have been her mothers?? but this would have been very early for ships nurses. The family have referred to an Elliza Sharp(e) ?? links to silver and sheffield but all total rumour and suposition and may be complete red herrings
Cheers everyone
LINMACK.
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Hi Linmack
You lucky thing :D So lovely to have artifacts, makes people so much more real.
As John was born in Kent I would imagine either they were married there 62/3 or yes he was born before they married - in which case that West Ham marriage might be yours.
Will have another look around in 61 for Eliza
Jan ;)
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Hi Linmack,
I'm not sure what we are exactly searching for now but going back to your initial query, I can see the following birth on the complete indexes:
September quarter 1870
Birth Elizabeth Lamb Rickwood
West Ham 4a 41
Lamb = perhaps maiden name?
Tanja :)
Edit Can't find a marriage for Eliza Lamb in Sep 1864.
Marriage William Rickwood Sep 1864 West Ham 4a 45
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Well there is this young lady - kind of fits with family rumour, but as you say could be a red herring :D Worth holding on file till you have her maidename confirmed. Till you get a birth certificate for on eof the children, probably little more can be done.
Cheers Jan
No1 ?Parish House Howe St, Aston, Birmingham
John Sharpe Head Mar 50 Porter Castle Bromwich Warwick
Eliza do Wife do 48 Uttoxeter Staffs
John do Son 21 Jeweller Birmingham
Mary Ann do Daur 17 Warehousewoman do
Eliza Sharpe Daur 15 Servant Birmingham
Carmilla do do 13 do do
Harriet Charlotte do do 9 Scholar do do
RG9/2175/54 Pg28
John is widowed by 71 still in Birmingham with daughters Camilla (married) and Harriet and Camilla's son living with him.
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Hi Linmack,
I have been having a look at this family again. A William Rickwood was married in West Ham RD in the Sept Q of 1864 (4a 45). On the same page is an Eliza Sharp!
Furthermore, Elizabeth Rickwood and Alfred Bateson had a son called George Irton Bateson who, according to the 1911 Census, was know as Irton.
Dimps