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Hi, I'm after any information about a Barrells Hall Lodge in Ullenhall. My mum was born there in 1949, and then given up adoption, does anyone know of her birth parents, ***. I have tried looking for the address on the internet, all I keep getting back is the name Daniel Lodge Developments on Ullenhall Road, is this the same place?
Any help with this huge jigsaw would be much appreciated, ???
thanks Annette.
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I just googled "Barrels Hall" and came up with a modest number of hits. Try dropping the "Lodge" bit.
Pauline
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Thanks Pauline
Have tried all that, I know there was or is a Barrells hall estate, dont know if the lodge was a caretakers cottage or something?
Thanks again, Annette.
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Try looking at older maps of the area.
Lodges are usually found at the gates to an estate.
Pauline
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Hi again, would you happen to know any old map websites or would I have to visit a library or office?
Annette.
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Annette,
A little bit of info here under Famous People Who Lived in Warks -
http://www.midlandspubs.co.uk/warwickshire/
Regards
Richard
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Thanks Richard,
there seems to be a lot of mentioning about the hall but nothing about the lodge!
Annette
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Annette,
The Hall would have been an impressive country residence lived in by someone wealthy. The lodge was likely to have been a house/ cottage in the grounds probably lived in by staff.
Have a look at http://www.old-maps.co.uk/
Type in Ullenhall as search but click the 'address' button not the 'place' button. This will bring up the post codes etc. Click on the top one - B95. This brings up another list of post codes - the post code you require is the 3rd one down listed as B95 5NQ Barrells Park (The Lodge)
Here is also a site for Warks old maps (lots of them)
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genmaps/genfiles/COU_Pages/ENG_pages/war.htm
Regards
Richard
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Thanks very much Richard,
I'll go and have a good look,
Annette
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Annette,
Here is a picture of Barrells Hall in all its glory - doesn't show the lodge but gives you some idea of the type of house/grounds/wealth involved -
http://www.jillhealing.com/barrells_hall.htm
Regards
Richard
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Hi,
I have lived in Ullenhall all my life, and have some old postcards, one of Barrells Hall (the one you have the link for is the "rebuilt" hall) and the original lodge, also now rebuilt.
What is it you want to know about the lodge and/or village? I'm afraid the names mean nothing too me though.
Regards Maureen
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I found these:
"Barrels Hall was nearly burnt to the ground in 1933 and remains a ruin,"
http://x.i-dat.org/projects/panopticon/struc2.htm
http://www.bmsgh.org/parish/warw/tyaiw/ullenhall.html
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Thanks a lot Tricia, it's all very interesting!
Any info or images of the lodge would be greatly appreciated, that is my great interest as my mum was born there in the forties.
Thanks again Annette
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When I drove through Ullenhall, yesterday and today, I noticed Barrels Park, just before entering the village itself. I assume that this was the estate of Barrels hall, and is where the Lodge would have been ~ by the gates. I couldn't see a building there, though.
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Thanks for having a look, I heard that the lodge has gone but I cannot find any old images of it anywhere!
Annette
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This is too early for you, but might be of interest to others researching ancestors in Ullenhall:
http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/GenerateContent?CONTENT_ITEM_ID=2173&CONTENT_ITEM_TYPE=0&MENU_ID=10277
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Maybe this book could be useful:
'Ullenhall (Life after Lady Luxborough)' - Margaret Feeney
Brewin Books ~ ISBN 1 85858 026 9
'Describes life in a small Warwickshire village not far from Stratford-upon-Avon. Whilst there is a brief description of the village's early history, covering the Luxborough family and the building of "Barrells" (the local stately home), the book focuses mainly on the history of Ullenhall during the last hundred years using oral reminiscences to re-create the life and atmosphere in the early years of the century.'
http://www.brewinbooks.com/County%20files/ullentext.htm
'There are chapters on the school, the church, the vicarage, the public house, old buildings of the village and the village in two world wars, together with an account of the sale and subsequent splitting up of the "Barrells" estate and the disastrous fire at "Barrells" in 1933. The book is complete with many documents, wills and estate sale particulars reproduced in full together with photographs of the village at work and play throughout the 20th century...'
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ullenhall-Life-After-Lady-Luxborough/dp/1858580269
There are some old photos of Ullenhall, including 'Barrells', here:
http://www.search.windowsonwarwickshire.org.uk/engine/theme/default.asp?theme=1561&text=0
I also found this:
Deborah Deane
Garden Designers
Address: The Lodge, Barrells Park, Ullenhall, Henley-In-Arden, West Midlands, B95 5NQ
Telephone: 01564 795198
http://www.the-business-search.co.uk/biz/641201-Deborah-Deane
http://www.business-directory-great-britain.com/firma-home/deborah-deane-13135249.html
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Thanks so much, this will keep me going for a while!
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Shame about the Lodge, I think someone said something about there being a home for the retired there now ?
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Thanks for that, I know its a shame because my mum would have loved to visit the house she was born in. :(
I would really love to see an old photo or postcard of the lodge, can anyone help?
Thanks again Annette
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It's a shame when buildings with history and memories are replaced by characterless properties where very little thought goes into how they fit into the surroundings. Wish I could help :( but someone must have a photo even if it's estate agents from when it was sold to those who have knocked it down so if you could get a nice pic that would be great.
Having visited where my nan used to live when I was a child it was gutting to see what a mess the place was and how the pretty garden had been replaced with concrete and wooden boarding, so sometimes memories are much nicer than when you see the reality of what has replaced it.
Good luck with the pic hunting.
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Hmm, went through Ullenhall last week, looks like they have also got rid of the name of the Lodge now too and called the retired home something pretentious like Luxborough House ... :( :(
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Hi people,
just to let you know I live in the lodge.
Or at least its replacement.
It is anything but a retirement home >:(, it is simply a large family house. It is still under construction and belongs to my family now. The name Luxborough house was chosen as a replacement as the new house isnt the lodge and we felt an affirmation to break the roots with the old estate
We were sad to have to demolish the old building but it was actually structurally condemned anyway and unfit for human habitation. The adaption of the building in the early 60's ruined any origionality it may have had left , we found the peices of the origional windowframes and brickwork bueried as a poor attempt at a rockery in the back garden when we moved in, these rocks are placed along the verge at the front as a tribute to the building that was once beautiful. :(. As for the pretty garden as you might know landscaping and construction are still under way and that takes time.
As for fitting in with the surroungings the building underwent a riggorous design phase and is constucted as a featured building with old fashioned style drawn from many era's and designed not to conform with the rest of the village as the rest of the village is mainly bungalow's and ugly buildings with very little character.
If anyone is after images i would be more than willing to provide some if you wish to email me
Foeaxe@verticalgamestudios.co.uk
(hatter1 you seem to have a lot to moan about, are you an especially arrogent person. or just over opinionated?)
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Thanks to everyone who has helped me, I have had a good insight into Ullenhall.
Here in all it's glory is Barrells Hall Lodge.
Thanks again,
Annette
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I only wish it had looked like that when we found it, such a beautiful building. Hate 60's rennovations >:(
We have kept the round stone plaque which you can see in the roof apex (which was actually a foot deep lump of carved sandstone!) this is mounted on the apex of the new garage.
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Thanks to everyone who has helped me, I have had a good insight into Ullenhall.
Here in all it's glory is Barrells Hall Lodge.
Thanks again,
Annette
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Thanks to everyone who has helped me, I have had a good insight into Ullenhall.
Here in all it's glory is Barrells Hall Lodge.
Thanks again,
Annette
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Hi Annette,
The photographs sent in by a correspondent on 23/10/2007 are definetly of Barrells Hall Lodge (the old B/H gate house) located on the Ullenhall to Henley in Arden road. My father was Vicar of Ullenhall during the 1960's and I used to regularly play in the old B/Hall ruins. In those days it was owned by a wealthy builder by the surname of Dare. The Lodge was still in use and a friend of a friend of mine lived there. I live in South Africa and have not been back to Ullenhall for well over 30years. I would imagine the Lodge is still there and in use as it was in good condition and must now be of some significant historic value. My friend (One of the Hurst's; an old Ullenhall family) lived opposite the lodge. Hope this helps, but you most definetly have found your Barrelles Hall Lodge in that correspondence and photo of 23/10/2007. My old school teacher Mrs. Friend witnessed the Hall burn down in the 1930's. Kindest Regards.
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PS Annette,
Sorry to be so dumb! I see the photo's were sent in by yourself on 23/10/2007! You can be fully and absolutely assured that they are indeed of the Barrells Hall Lodge and therefore your Mum's birthplace. I knew those grounds as a young lad like the back of my hand. We used to camp in B/Hall grounds to try and witness the phantom coach of Lady Luxborough as it departed up the drive and past the old Lodge. Many old timers claimed in those day's to have seeing the phantom coach. My sister, now a very prominant Haematologist in the UK, once heard the sad crying of Lady Luxborough in the ruins of Barrells Hall.
I wonder if the new owners and developers of the Lodge are aware they have a phantom coach riding past their property at the bewithching, moonlit hour!
If you want to know anything else my e mail address is stephen.worsley@transnet.net.
Kind Regards.
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What a wonderful string of messages about Barrells Hall Lodge! I am intensely interested in Barrells, and wrote a book in 1993 called "The Knights of Barrells." Please can someone tell me the name of the new owner of Barrells Hall, to whom I believe Danny Lynch sold it recently? I want to invite him (and anyone else interested) to a book launch in Birmingham on February 18. For an invitation contact me at (*) or (*) The book to be launched is "Chequered Chances; a portrait of Lady Luxborough" by Audrey Duggan.
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Audrey Duggan has written some very interesting books.
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You may find this site helpful too
http://www.ullenhallhistory.org.uk/
I lived in Ullenhall from early 1960's to mid 1980's and think I can remember the people who lived in the lodge around that time - think they were the Brunners. The house was white in those days and it was situated on the main road on the left hand side going into Ullenhall after passing Barrells Park. It was by the main entrance to the stables for Barrells Park and the drive to Barrells Hall.
There was also another 'lodge' for Barrells Hall which was situated toward the end of Church Lane - but I think that this may have been referred to as the Game Keepers Lodge (half timbered cottage) and had a large oak tree in its grounds - this property was replaced in the early 1970's
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I am interested in Barrels Hall ,Ullenhall around 1914. My Great Grandfather was head gardener there at that time. I would like to know if there was any one called Goodway who also worked there at the same time. George pottle
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I was interested in your post.. my mother had connections with Barrels hall .She did not know who her father was but he worked at Barrels Hall in 1913. Hope you manage to find some info , I have not been able to find anyting further out. My mother is 95 and would love to know her history.
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Hello George,
Check out the website www.ullenhallhistory.org.uk (http://www.ullenhallhistory.org.uk). There is a whole section on Barrells Hall. In my search I emailed the kind people who run the website and they were very helpful, unfortunately they did not have the records for the 1940s that I was looking for but they may have earlier ones, worth a try! I had a quick read and the Hall was owned by the Goodwin Newtons around 1914.
Good luck in your search, I have actually been very successful and have found out all the information about my mums father through this website. An unknown member of my family amazingly found me through one of my posts! So Roots Chat is a good choice.
Kind regards,
Annette.
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Annette , Thank you so much for your promt reply, will try your suggestions. We have left it a bit late but my Mother is thinking a lot about who her father might have been.
She will be encouraged by your success.
George
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Hi Annette,
I am a carpenter & joiner who worked on the refurbishment of Barrells Hall between 2004 and 2006 and have collected numerous photos and articles regarding the building and previous history. Have only just spotted your link and wonder if you still require information,if so please let me know and I will try to help,although I do not have any extra photos of the lodge
I was so inspired by the history of the building that during a lunch break I wrote the following poem ;
"Oh Barrells"
Oh Barrells after all this time,we see you slowly rise again.
Once more, your splendour of strength and grace dominates this special place.
With walls rebuily and roof now sound you do not lay upon the ground but rise up high to touch the sky just as you did before
The gardens too can breathe again and after all this special care one can only stand and stare at what was nearly lost
Pete
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Hi Everyone!
Interesting post this!
Barrells Hall was my families house for about 70 years up til 1924 when we sold it.
During that time my Great Great Great Grandfather William Newton II and his sons developed the property to 3 times its size, extending the old farm house and the Bonomi additions.
They also developed Ullenhall with their generosity building the Church, School, School house, coffee shop (being VERY religious - 2 of the 3 brothers were gentlemen clergy - they did not approve of the pub so built this as a distraction!), Vicarage etc. They also built Barrells Hall lodge.
I went back to Barrells a month or two ago to have a look at the rebuilt, its quite incredible, and stunning!
If anyone has any pictures or documents they wish to share I would be most intersted to see! I have some too in return! I am collecting everything I can! my email is (*)
Kindest Regards
Edward
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Hi, I know this thread is pretty old, but still i thought it was worth a mention! My family and I live at what used to be Barrels Park Lodge, now renamed Luxborough House. When we moved here in 2000 my parents carried out a lot of research into the history of Barrells to help inspire the build and totry and maintain some historical value... The original Barrells crest is placed in the new house having been rmoved and restored from the old lodge which was sadly in disrepair due to irreversible 70's modifications!! We bought from the Savville's and the Hall has passed from Lynch to Riley to Malloy and finally to some halal chicken farmers who have yet to move in! We sourced many of the original deeds for the land right the way back to Henrietta Knight (Lady Lux!) so if you have any specific questions just let me know and I will try to find out!
Olivia :)
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Hi, I know this thread is pretty old, but still i thought it was worth a mention! My family and I live at what used to be Barrels Park Lodge, now renamed Luxborough House. When we moved here in 2000 my parents carried out a lot of research into the history of Barrells to help inspire the build and totry and maintain some historical value... The original Barrells crest is placed in the new house having been removed and restored from the old lodge which was sadly in disrepair due to irreversible 70's modifications!! We bought from the Savville's and the Hall has passed from Lynch to Riley to Malloy and finally to some halal chicken farmers who have yet to move in! We sourced many of the original deeds for the land right the way back to Henrietta Knight (Lady Lux!) so if you have any specific questions just let me know and I will try to find out!
Olivia :)
Dear Olivia
How interesting! You moved in at the key time I think, at the end of the old (ruins) and the start of the new (rebuild!)
I would be very interested in hearing more about your discoveries, as you may or may not know several generations of my family (Newton) lived at (and developed) Barrells Hall. I will send you a PM with my email if I may?
Kind regards
Edward
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sure sounds like a plan! It was a bit of a sad time though as we were here for three(ish) years before restoration began and my brother and I used to play in the ruins... which as you can imagine was quite magical ... not to mention spooky at night!! builders definitely ruined our fun!! haha
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My husband's family owned Barrells Hall, they were the Newtons as well..we have quite a lot of photos of the place including a picture of his grandmother's marriage in the glasshouse which was part of Barrels Hall..can you please give me your email address Edward, as I have quite a lot of family stuff since my husband's mother passed away, including paintings from the Hall.
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my husband's granny was Olive Newton-we have quite a lot of photos of the house, including her wedding pictures with huge palms, she married a clergyman...we have oil paintings from the house that were handed down to Olive and paintings she did as a girl of the interior of the house. She had a son and two daughters, one of them Elizabeth Headlam, my husband's mother-we have quite a lot of information if you are interested including a chest of letters in pencil from Elizabeth(Libby)to her brother during the war. Olive inherited quite a lot of the furniture from Barrells Hall and it was sold on the lawn of The Vicarage at Atcham when they had to move out upon her husband's death. We have a full inventory of the sale..a deal of top quality hand made English furniture and very unusual items.
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my husband's granny was Olive Newton-we have quite a lot of photos of the house, including her wedding pictures with huge palms, she married a clergyman...we have oil paintings from the house that were handed down to Olive and paintings she did as a girl of the interior of the house. She had a son and two daughters, one of them Elizabeth Headlam, my husband's mother-we have quite a lot of information if you are interested including a chest of letters in pencil from Elizabeth(Libby)to her brother during the war. Olive inherited quite a lot of the furniture from Barrells Hall and it was sold on the lawn of The Vicarage at Atcham when they had to move out upon her husband's death. We have a full inventory of the sale..a deal of top quality hand made English furniture and very unusual items.
You have mail! Great to hear from a relative I don't know! We share a common (in my case) great great great grandfather William Newton II
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sure sounds like a plan! It was a bit of a sad time though as we were here for three(ish) years before restoration began and my brother and I used to play in the ruins... which as you can imagine was quite magical ... not to mention spooky at night!! builders definitely ruined our fun!! haha
Hi Dean,
I worked on the restoration of Barrells for around three years as a carpenter and I'm sorry that we spoilt your fun. It was a massive project indeed and ghost hunters applied to stay there over two seperate nights during the build and used recording equipment and many threads stuck across door frames and corridors to eliminate physical interference. After the second stay I asked them if they had experienced any occurences and was told that there was just one unexplained noise and I don't remember them returning. However, a floor tiler working alone on a Saturday morning said he was working between the annexe and the main building when he turned around to see a woman in a Black cloak dart across the corridor. He quickly packed up his tools and went home immediately. Not someone to miss a challenge I got to the site early one morning a few days later when it was still dark and made my way to where the supposed ghost of Lady Luxborough was reportedly seen but I did not witness anything. However, after readind about Lady Luxborough and the literary circle she surrounded herself with at Barrells one lunchtime I sat in my car and composed a poem, something that I had never done before and nor since.
"Oh Barrells"
Oh Barrells after all this time,we see you slowly rise again.
Once more, your splendour of strength and grace dominates this special place.
With walls rebuilt and roof now sound you do not lay upon the ground but rise up high to touch the sky just as you did before
The gardens too can breathe again and after all this special care one can only stand and stare at what was nearly lost"
Sadly two people that worked on Barrells took their own lives, one being Andrew Craythorn the author of "From Riches To Ruins" which was the history of Barrells Hall and the other Andrew Watson a young carpenter. There is no doubt that working on Barrells Hall made a big impact on me and I suppose that I am part of it's hidden history too.
Pete