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Title: Kew
Post by: cass on Friday 24 February 06 11:17 GMT (UK)
Hi does anyone visit the records dept. at Kew? I have the photocopy of my great grandfathers enlistment papers but cannot read the regiment that his brother (who was next of kin) was serving in. I am trying to find out what happened to his brother but there are a few soldiers with the same name so I am not sure which may be him. My great grandfather was Daniel Sloan, who enlisted in 1915 and was killed in Ypres in 1917. His brother was John Joseph Sloan. Many thanks Cass
Title: Re: Kew
Post by: harribobs on Friday 24 February 06 12:04 GMT (UK)
Cass

it may be best to scan and post the copy you have

do you know where john joseph enlisted, born, resided??
Title: Re: Kew
Post by: harribobs on Friday 24 February 06 12:08 GMT (UK)


and where they the same as daniel?
Title: Re: Kew
Post by: cass on Friday 24 February 06 17:43 GMT (UK)
John Joseph Sloan was born in Cumbria but in 1901 was in Houghton-le-spring. I don't know where he enlisted but my great grandfather was also born in Cumbria but enlisted in ?Middlesex. I will try to scan papers but my IT skills are not 100% Cass
Title: Re: Kew
Post by: harribobs on Friday 24 February 06 21:09 GMT (UK)
i am assuming this is Daniel

Title: Re: Kew
Post by: harribobs on Friday 24 February 06 21:10 GMT (UK)

i am wondering if this is John Joseph

Title: Re: Kew
Post by: harribobs on Friday 24 February 06 21:13 GMT (UK)
CWGC site

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=1640938
Title: Re: Kew
Post by: harribobs on Friday 24 February 06 21:16 GMT (UK)

and from the NA site, mic

http://tinyurl.com/sxqqg
Title: Re: Kew
Post by: cass on Friday 24 February 06 22:40 GMT (UK)
Yes that is my Daniel Sloan but I don't think that is my John Sloan. I have found that one before and wrote to the Border Reg. who said that the soldiers no. indicated that he had joined after 1915 (but my John was in the services when Daniel Sloan enlisted in 1915. Cass
Title: Re: Kew
Post by: harribobs on Friday 24 February 06 23:36 GMT (UK)

hmmm  ok.. (damn thought i'd got him!)  but of course he may not have been a casualty

do the scan, save it as a jpg ( not above 300 kb) click additional options, attach, and find the scan where you saved it on your pc

Title: Re: Kew
Post by: manmack on Saturday 25 February 06 00:20 GMT (UK)
chris/cass,the border regt said he joined them in 1915,he may have served in another regt before this or he could have been a time served soldier who re=enlisted and joined the border regt so the man that you found could be john,mack
Title: Re: Kew
Post by: cass on Sunday 26 February 06 17:19 GMT (UK)
Tried to post scanned papers but too big. Not enough IT skills yet to reduce it but will keep trying. If I could find that John Sloans enlistments papers it would confirm if it was him. I have tried the national archives website but can never find what I need ( I  paid a researcher to find Daniels Sloans papers) Cass
Title: Re: Kew
Post by: cass on Sunday 26 February 06 18:37 GMT (UK)
I have also found another John Sloan who was shot at dawn in July 1916. He was aprivate in the 1/4th bt Royal Lancaster Regiment. I got his court martial papers but they do not have any personal details on so again I do not know if it is him. I tried finding his enlistment papers on the archives site but did not know where to start as it all appears to be numbers!!!! Cass
Title: Re: Kew
Post by: harribobs on Tuesday 28 February 06 00:20 GMT (UK)
send the scan to me, make it the best quality you can and i'll post it
Title: Re: Kew
Post by: harribobs on Tuesday 28 February 06 20:35 GMT (UK)

this is the scan of the enlistment document

it has been crossed out, it reads

 "on service in France Regiment **********"

i think i know what it says but i want the other's opinion

Title: Re: Kew
Post by: harribobs on Tuesday 28 February 06 21:33 GMT (UK)


come on guys!!!   just an opinion  :D


don't make me come out there and get you  ;D
Title: Re: Kew
Post by: Kevwood on Tuesday 28 February 06 21:34 GMT (UK)
Chris, i have been staring at it for ages and no idea!!!! something unit something something, give us a clue ;D

Kev. ;D
Title: Re: Kew
Post by: Headbanger Veron on Tuesday 28 February 06 21:43 GMT (UK)
Doesn't it say "Regiment unknown"?

Veron  ???
Title: Re: Kew
Post by: Wendi on Tuesday 28 February 06 21:45 GMT (UK)
Is it written in French  ???  :)
Title: Re: Kew
Post by: harribobs on Tuesday 28 February 06 21:50 GMT (UK)


there's no real answer, we don't know....i'm just after opinions  ???
Title: Re: Kew
Post by: liverpool annie on Tuesday 28 February 06 22:04 GMT (UK)



I'm like Kev!!  ::)

Looks like authenticated or authorised or similar to me!!  :P :P :P
Title: Re: Kew
Post by: harribobs on Tuesday 28 February 06 22:17 GMT (UK)

ok thanks everyone

...well i agree with Veron

i think it's unknown, and i think thats why it's been voided and a new NOK inserted

it doesn't help but we're all had that before  :(

Doesn't it say "Regiment unknown"?

Veron  ???
Title: Re: Kew
Post by: cass on Wednesday 01 March 06 09:27 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for everyones help. The reason it was changed is that Daniel married after enlisting and his wife's details were put in. Unfortunately he died 3/12 later. I'll just have to keep looking. Cheers. Cass
Title: Re: Kew
Post by: stonechat on Thursday 02 March 06 15:55 GMT (UK)
Regiomal Unit ??? ???

Bob
Title: Re: Kew
Post by: hedgehog55 on Wednesday 23 November 11 19:08 GMT (UK)
Hi
I have Bodden/Bowden ancestors from Down who left in 1846-7 for Cockermouth, they married McAlinens and Sloans.  The three familes all seem to have come from South Down (the Loughinisland area), just across the St Georges Channel.  The families I am connected with were all Catholics
Michael