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Title: Where is this place, please? - Image added
Post by: Arranroots on Monday 20 February 06 09:49 GMT (UK)
Helping another Rootschatter, I came across this place of birth.  It doesn't ring a bell with me & I wondered if anyone could help me identify it please?

RG9/2249/27/10

Nags Head Inn, Church St, Market Harborough

Henry GREEN boarder U 29 - groom stable man - London Hereford Church XXX??


(where XXX?? is incomprehensible to me!!)

Is it in London?  or Herefordshire?

Help !!

kind regards, Arranroots  ;)
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Post by: sillgen on Monday 20 February 06 18:10 GMT (UK)
Hi
Puzzling!   I am not convinced it is Hereford.  If you look at the other H s on the page they are much more open.  Could it be B?  I also don't think it is church.  The word is too long.  Chy..ham??    No idea about the last bit Tic...?
Not much help there but we have looked at it!
Andrea
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Post by: SallyF on Monday 20 February 06 18:40 GMT (UK)
I thought the "ch" word was "chambers".

Will keep looking.

Sally
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Post by: nashua on Monday 20 February 06 18:45 GMT (UK)
Could it be Churcham ?

Nashua
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Post by: Koromo on Monday 20 February 06 18:50 GMT (UK)

I was thinking Chumley or  Chamley ... or something! But the word underneath has me stumped.

K.
:)
Title: Re: Where is this place, please? - Image added
Post by: Arranroots on Monday 20 February 06 18:53 GMT (UK)
Thanks for trying anyway - do you think the word underneath is relevant?

sorry the image is so big, but I wanted to include enough detail

V puzzling as you say

 ;)
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Post by: liverpool annie on Monday 20 February 06 19:05 GMT (UK)


Here's all the "C" names in Herefordshire ..... !! which looks the best ???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_places_in_Herefordshire#C

 :P :P
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Post by: suey on Monday 20 February 06 19:19 GMT (UK)
What a stinker!  I've been looking at it and I don't think it says Hereford either. I'm inclined to agree with Andrea and suggest it's a B or D, if you look at how he writes his scruffy d's in doe for ditto ?

Also if you look at the other entries, ie Middlesex, Colney Hatch,
Kent, Goodmeston, I think it's a place in London - question is where?
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Post by: Berlin-Bob on Monday 20 February 06 19:22 GMT (UK)
Are we all convinced it is London ??

The first letter looks more like the B in boarder,
bearing in mind that the line above has 'overflowed' into the next line,
which means that the enumerator was a bit cramped.

Also, judging by the o a and r in boarder, the first word could be ending  ..rden
which could give you Marden or (less likely) Ruardean  in Hereford

(neither of which begin with B, but that's life  ;D )

Bob
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Post by: MaryA on Monday 20 February 06 19:25 GMT (UK)
I thought Churnham but I don't know of any place by that name, nor does streetmap.

How very inconsiderate of him to have moved from Leicestershire in the next census >:(
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Post by: Arranroots on Monday 20 February 06 19:59 GMT (UK)

What a stinker!

I think it's a place in London - question is where?


I think so too!  I am not a city girl though, so don't know where.

And I only wanted to help...

 ;D

BUT it did have BIG repercussions, cos I started looking for him in the States and see what happened...

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,131605.0.html


Thanks again all!
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Post by: Boongie Pam on Monday 20 February 06 20:15 GMT (UK)
I am the world's worst at this but it looks a bit like Ricanton or Ricarton to me? But the only place I know is Riccarton but that's up t'north in Scotland.

It looks like London and it is definitely Hereford.

Said I was rubbish  :-[
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Post by: lizdb on Monday 20 February 06 20:17 GMT (UK)
I tend to agree with Sally, something Chambers. Maybe this is his address in London, Hereford Chambers. But what the word underneath is??
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Post by: soozworld on Monday 20 February 06 21:04 GMT (UK)
I'd also say it's Chambers, looks like London, Hereford Chambers, Accountant to me....(I've been scouring Censuses for the past few weeks, took me ages to interpret "Post Messenger" I thought it was Innkeeper for a while..
good luck!
Sue
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Post by: Arranroots on Monday 20 February 06 21:06 GMT (UK)
Thanks again for all your opinions!!

This is the only record we have of this chap & we are trying to trace him back to some parents somewhere in an earlier census, hence the need to know WHERE

 ;)
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Post by: JillJ on Monday 20 February 06 21:36 GMT (UK)
This reminds me of one I had who said he was born in Leeds, Tow Law, Durham!

For what it's worth (probably not much) I think it says "London Hereford Chertsey or maybe Churtsey".

If he was like mine he didn't really know and listed the places he had lived!

Jill
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Post by: JAP on Tuesday 21 February 06 02:53 GMT (UK)
Like Jill, I think it says something like "London - Hereford Churtsey" but ...

I am wondering whether the inserted word refers to the entry above or the entry below.  Perhaps to the entry below as, according to Multimap, there are two places called Goodnestone in Kent - one near Faversham, and the other ESE of Canterbury/WSW of Sandwich - so it could perhaps be a word indicating which of the two it was.  The only problem is that I can't see an appropriately named place near either ...   The word might start with an 'R' or a 'P' (there isn't a 'P' in the extract for comparison).  It looks rather like the semi-obscured 'R' which begins 'Rutlandsh Oakham' in the line above but there doesn't seem to be a downstroke.

JAP