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On the war deaths index Hadden Royden Todd died Sept 1944 as a 2nd Lt. Yet his War Grave says he's a Major. Would he have been posthumously promoted?? or A typing error? or????
I have got images but I can't get them small enough and keep them readable.
Libby
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Hi Libby
His record is on military Genealogy.com
his Rank is down as Major 87584 in the Royal Artillery if thats of any use to you
Claire :)
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Also listed as Major on the cwgc site.
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=2320609
Kev.
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Odd really! So the error is on the War Deaths list! Fine At least I know
Thanks folks for your help
Libby
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Could it be that he was Acting or Local Major & only a substantive 2Lt? Certainly not an unusual occurrence. This could have resulted in the discrepancy.
Yours aye
Paul
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I really don't know. In all honesty apart from private, corporal and sergeant I have no idea how the ranks go. Now all I need is someone telling me I got these 3 wrong!!!
Libby ;D
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Have you searched for him in the times online?
saturday dec 22nd 1934:
Law Society: Local prizes:
Timpron Martin Prize for Liverpool students:Hadden Royden Todd B.A Cantab(Mr James William Thurston Holland of messrs Laces and co of Liverpool)second class homours June 1934.
Thursday sept 13th 1945:
In Memorium:
In ever loving memory of my beloved and only son Hadden Royden Todd who died in Normandy, on sept 13th 1944.
Monday January 20th 1958,
Marriages:
Mr P.A.M Gell and Miss V.W.H Todd.
daughter of late Major Hadden Royden Todd, loads more details on this if you want?
Monday October 30th 1961,
Marriages:
Mr A.M Wolfe Murray and Miss S.V Todd
younger daughter of late Major Hadden Royden Todd, also loads more on this.
Kev. ;D
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Libby , if you haven't already done this you need to , has loads on his dad and i would imagine their marriage:
5th April Frankby Church, assisted by Rev C.W Ridley uncle of the bride, Hadden eldest son of Hadden W Todd and Evelyn Mary daughter of T B Royden of Frankby Hall, cheshire.
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Nice Kev!! ;) ;) ;)
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I will take a look.
But funnily enough I was trolling through the 1881 census and T B Roland is Thomas Bland Roland and his occupation is Shipbuilder JP & TC. Now could this TC tie in with the medal in my other post on this section.
Plus...... I was in Frankby last week looking round graves on the Bennison side of my family tree when my aunt told me a story that she had been told, about Frankby Hall or Manor (she wasn't sure which)had been taken down stone by stone and shipped to America. I thought this tied in with the Bennisons because all bar one of this family emigrated to America & Canada.
Chances are they must have all known one another or at least known of each other........ oooooooooooooooo I wish I could time travel
Thanks Kev
Libby ;D
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Really fascinating family, one of Thomas Bland Roydens daughters was a leader in the suffragettes, he was an MP and sheriff of Cheshire!!!
Kev.
Ps don't know if im allowed to post this or not?
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My goodness he's a Sir too. They say money breeds money. Unfortunately these people are not direct descendants Major Todds wife's, father is my GGUncle (George Wincester Robins).
Major Todds grandmother's father is a William Pilkington (according to the census) a ......... glass manufacturer I wonder if its the Pilkington. Altho my mum says not, she believes another of GG Uncle Georges daughter Ethel Gabrielle Robins marries a William Lee Pilkington at Chester Cathedral in 1935
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another of my GG Uncles daughters (Olive Gertrude) married Admiral Sir Charles Madden there was a Miss Roseann Madden as a bridesmaid to Major Todds daughters wedding wonder if this is their daughter.
Thanks Kev for opening an enormous door for me if you don't see any posts from me for a while I'n probably deep inside times online
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Libby
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Hi. i am also doing some research on Major HADDEN ROYDEN TODD.
Im very interested in his military side. does anyone have a Photo of him at all...? email adress available for positive replies ...thanks...
and any one got a pic of his cwgc grave??
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Hi Peedee.
Welcome to Rootschat. :)
They may have a photograph of the grave at the web link below.
http://www.britishwargraves.co.uk/
Sandy
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My goodness he's a Sir too. They say money breeds money. Unfortunately these people are not direct descendants Major Todds wife's, father is my GGUncle (George Wincester Robins).
Major Todds grandmother's father is a William Pilkington (according to the census) a ......... glass manufacturer I wonder if its the Pilkington. Altho my mum says not, she believes another of GG Uncle Georges daughter Ethel Gabrielle Robins marries a William Lee Pilkington at Chester Cathedral in 1935
and
another of my GG Uncles daughters (Olive Gertrude) married Admiral Sir Charles Madden there was a Miss Roseann Madden as a bridesmaid to Major Todds daughters wedding wonder if this is their daughter.
Thanks Kev for opening an enormous door for me if you don't see any posts from me for a while I'n probably deep inside times online
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Libby
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My goodness he's a Sir too. They say money breeds money. Unfortunately these people are not direct descendants Major Todds wife's, father is my GGUncle (George Wincester Robins).
Major Todds grandmother's father is a William Pilkington (according to the census) a ......... glass manufacturer I wonder if its the Pilkington. Altho my mum says not, she believes another of GG Uncle Georges daughter Ethel Gabrielle Robins marries a William Lee Pilkington at Chester Cathedral in 1935
and
another of my GG Uncles daughters (Olive Gertrude) married Admiral Sir Charles Madden there was a Miss Roseann Madden as a bridesmaid to Major Todds daughters wedding wonder if this is their daughter.
Thanks Kev for opening an enormous door for me if you don't see any posts from me for a while I'n probably deep inside times online
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
LibbyMy goodness he's a Sir too. They say money breeds money. Unfortunately these people are not direct descendants Major Todds wife's, father is my GGUncle (George Wincester Robins).
Major Todds grandmother's father is a William Pilkington (according to the census) a ......... glass manufacturer I wonder if its the Pilkington. Altho my mum says not, she believes another of GG Uncle Georges daughter Ethel Gabrielle Robins marries a William Lee Pilkington at Chester Cathedral in 1935
and
another of my GG Uncles daughters (Olive Gertrude) married Admiral Sir Charles Madden there was a Miss Roseann Madden as a bridesmaid to Major Todds daughters wedding wonder if this is their daughter.
Thanks Kev for opening an enormous door for me if you don't see any posts from me for a while I'n probably deep inside times online
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Libby
Major Hadden Royden Todd was my Grandfather - my Mother's father.
Runje
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Hi. i am also doing some research on Major HADDEN ROYDEN TODD.
Im very interested in his military side. does anyone have a Photo of him at all...? email adress available for positive replies ...thanks...
and any one got a pic of his cwgc grave??
Maj. Hadden Royden Todd was my Grandfather - my Mother's father.
What's your interest?
Runje
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Hi. i am also doing some research on Major HADDEN ROYDEN TODD.
Im very interested in his military side. does anyone have a Photo of him at all...? email adress available for positive replies ...thanks...
and any one got a pic of his cwgc grave??
Maj. Hadden Royden Todd was my Grandfather - my Mother's father.
What's your interest?
Runje
My friend and I both collect medals etc to Our surnames, Mine duggan, and my friends: TODD.
Late last year he purchased a set of Majors shoulder Pips and a news papers article in a small case perporting to be those of Major TODD.
I did the research that was available, ie CWGC, and the war diary at the National archives etc....and left a link here as I found a thread on him.
So I was wondering if you have any original documents or photographs of his, i can get copied for My friends archives
I can give you my email address later if there is good news!.
phil
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Runje - if your mother was one of the two daughters of Major Hadden W Todd, then you and I are fifth cousins. I can trace these Haddens back to William H, d.1754, and the Todds only back to Joseph T, father of Thomas T, 1804-1868. So perhaps quite a bit of info to share, maybe too much to do on the list ?? - I can usually be found at rootsweb(dot)only(Atte)virgin[net]
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Maj. Hadden Royden Todd was my Grandfather - my Mother's father.
What's your interest?
Runje
I AM INTERESTED IN SPEAKING TO YOU RUNJE!! I have been doing some work for a friend of mine, who found a letter in a second hand book. It was from Evelyn Mary Todd nee Royden- who appears to be Hadden Royden Todd's mother.
We're based in Liverpool. And it would be really great to find some living relatives of Evelyn.
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Officers are well documented in war diaries so I would be pretty certain to say that his death is more thank likely recorded in the units war diary at the National Archives in London
WO 171/926 86 Regt. Anti-Tank Regiments 1944 Jan.- Dec.