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Title: researching Fyffe/Murphy/McMurchie/Hawthorn/Campbell
Post by: johnmcrae on Friday 17 February 06 00:18 GMT (UK)
I am having difficulty in getting started on any research for some Irish descendants.  I have no idea where about in Ireland they came from and all of the sites I have been on seen to be divided into the different counties.

I have in my tree a Daniel Murphy who was born about 1832.  I don't know where he was born but it could be somewhere in Ireland or it could be in the Glasgow or Dundee areas in Scotland.

He married a Irish born girl called Margaret Fyffe.  They married in Dundee in 1851.  

My information is that he was in the armed forces and served in Ireland and in India.  He had at least one son born in India and I think he may have been there for some time.  This makes me think that he served in Ireland before he moved to India

From the dates I have, my guess is that he served in Ireland at a very young age, and met his wife there, moving to Dundee and getting married when Margaret was only 18 years old and he was about 19.

Margaret's parents were John Fyffe and Catherine Campbell, and again it is a guess, but I would guess that they were from Ireland, but location not known.

The location of Daniels birth is confusing, and I am not sure if he was Scotish or Irish.  He, and the next two generations of his family, steadily changed their name from Murphy to McMurchie.  I know that this would fit in with the Irish Gaelic version of Murphy but I haven't heard of Murphy in the Scottish Highlands as a local name so it is unlikely that it is based on Scottish Gaelic.

His parents were Neil Murphy and Marjory Hawthorn.  They were married in 1830, probably in Scotland.  Marjory was born ABT 1808 and died in a poor house in Dundee in 1881.  Her birth place is given as Neilston in Glasgow, which is one of he reasons I think they probably were married in Scotland.  I have no other information about Neil.

Marjory's parents were James Hawthorn and Marjory ?????.  It is not possible to read the certificate because of the poor standard of writing but as a guess it could be Andrews or Anderson from the shapes of some of the letters.

It's not a lot to go on but if anyone is looking in the same area as this and they have any other information I would be glad to hear from them.

John
Title: Re: researching Fyffe/Murphy/McMurchie/Hawthorn/Campbell
Post by: Ticker on Sunday 30 April 06 20:39 BST (UK)
Hi John

Have you tried these sites?

The General Register Office of Ireland (http://www.groireland.ie/)

The Public Record Office of Northern Ireland (http://www.proni.gov.uk/)

Irish Roots (http://www.irishroots.net/)

The National Library of Ireland (http://www.nli.ie/)

Irish Genealogy (http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/frame_1024.cfm)

Genealogical Society of Ireland (http://www.familyhistory.ie/)

Irish Ancestors (http://www.ireland.com/ancestor/)

National Archives of Ireland (http://www.nationalarchives.ie/)

Online Irish Census Records (http://www.census-online.com/links/Ireland//)

Irish Origins (http://www.irishorigins.com/)

Irish Genealogical Society (http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Eirish/index.html)

Irish Family History Society (http://homepage.eircom.net/~ifhs/)

Best wishes

Ticker
Title: Re: researching Fyffe/Murphy/McMurchie/Hawthorn/Campbell
Post by: johnmcrae on Friday 19 May 06 14:38 BST (UK)
Thanks ticker
I have tried some of them but haven't been through them all yet.

I had a little bit of bother with the Irish sites when I started because they all seemed to need to know which county to look in, or I had to go through each county one at a time.

I kind of have a better idea of where I am going now, but i'll give these sites another try

Thanks
john
Title: Re: researching Fyffe/Murphy/McMurchie/Hawthorn/Campbell
Post by: F1LMM on Sunday 09 March 14 16:00 GMT (UK)
I have all your answers, I am a family member email me on * and we will talk it will be interesting to see where we go from here bud cheers, Lee McMurchie thanks

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Title: Re: researching Fyffe/Murphy/McMurchie/Hawthorn/Campbell
Post by: sarah on Monday 17 March 14 16:37 GMT (UK)
Hi FiLMM,

Welcome to RootsChat, I am sorry but John's emails have stopped working and we have been unable to find an alternative emails address for him.

Regards

Sarah