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Title: 1851 Cencus look up Matilda Farbrother COMPLETED
Post by: Dougalmac2 on Thursday 16 February 06 20:10 GMT (UK)
I would appreciate a look up for Matilda Farbrother, born Great Rollright c1837, married William Varney from Horley 1856/56.
Can anyone help me please?

Thank you, Mac
Title: Re: 1851 Cencus look up Matilda Farbrother
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 16 February 06 23:13 GMT (UK)
1851 - address is just shown as Gt Rollright.  All born Gt Rollright unless shown otherwise


Caroline Farbrother 28 Daughter     
Elizabeth Farbrother 48 Chipping Norton Wife occ schoolmistress   
John Farbrother 8   Son     
Matilda Farbrother 16  Daughter     
Nimrod Farbrother 10  Son     
Rhoda Farbrother 4  Daughter   
William Farbrother 54  Head  occ shoemaker 

HO107/1732 Folio: 379 Page: 18
Title: Re: 1851 Cencus look up Matilda Farbrother
Post by: Dougalmac2 on Friday 17 February 06 15:59 GMT (UK)
Thanks ever so much Carole,  Thats set se onto another line. 
  Cheers, Mac
Title: Re: 1851 Cencus look up Matilda Farbrother
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 17 February 06 18:27 GMT (UK)
Hi Mac

It would be interesting to see this family on the 1841.  Quite a big age gap between Caroline and Matilda and then between Matilda and Nimrod.  I wonder is this a second marriage for William?

This is the 1861 for them - with Elizabeth's mother living with them.  Elizabeth is a widow and still in Gr Rollright
 
William Bacon 56 Eatington, Warwickshire Boarder     
Hannah Davis 90 Barford, Warwickshire Mother     
Caroline Farbrother 38 Great Rollright  Daughter   
Elizabeth Farbrother 58  Head     
John Farbrother 18  Son   
Nimrod Farbrother 20  Son   
George Walker 18 Great Rollright Boarder   
Title: Re: 1851 Cencus look up Matilda Farbrother
Post by: Dougalmac2 on Saturday 18 February 06 18:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Carole

This is really getting jam on it.

I shall have to purchase the relevant OFHS church records CD to follow that one up.

Thanks ever so much for the extra info.

Cheers, Mac
Title: Re: 1851 Cencus look up Matilda Farbrother
Post by: Dougalmac2 on Saturday 18 February 06 18:47 GMT (UK)
Hi Carole

Just so I am doing something myself, I had looked the Farbrothers I could up in the 1881 census.  Nimrod , John, Caroline and Elizabeth were easy, but Elzabeth has become a cordwainers widow. I thought that was more likely to be in the fabric trades than shoemaking.

Thanks again for your help.

Cheers Mac
Title: Re: 1851 Cencus look up Matilda Farbrother
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 18 February 06 18:50 GMT (UK)
Hi

A Cordwainer was an old expression for a shoe maker.  It was previously Cordiner and described a person who worked with Cordovan - a special soft leather from Spain
Title: Re: 1851 Cencus look up Matilda Farbrother
Post by: Dougalmac2 on Saturday 18 February 06 19:08 GMT (UK)
Hi Carole

Thanks again. You do learn a lot at this game.

William Farbrother appears to have died in 1860

Mar1860 Chipping Norton,3a 456

Cheers,  Mac
Title: Re: 1851 Cencus look up Matilda Farbrother
Post by: Pennie on Saturday 18 February 06 22:55 GMT (UK)
Hi Mac ...

It would seem that William only married the once!  From the OFHS's Oxfordshire Marriage Index (1538-1837):

20 AUG 1821 - William FARBROTHER (Gt. Rollright) to Elizabeth DAVIS at Thame.

Daughter Caroline would have been born in c1823, which all fits in quite nicely!  (Although it seems a large gap between Caroline and Matilda, the likelihood is that the siblings inbetween had already left home by the time of the 1851 census.  For some reason, Caroline stayed in the family home.)

Pennie
Title: Re: 1851 Cencus look up Matilda Farbrother
Post by: Sleat on Sunday 19 February 06 01:51 GMT (UK)
I had the 1841 out so I thought I'd give you the detail from the OFHS transcript. They are in Great Rollright

William Fairbrothers 40 Shoemaker Y
Elizabeth Fairbrothers 35 Y
Caroline Fairbrothers 15 Y
Caleb Fairbrothers 15 Y
Timothy Fairbrothers 10 Y
Dorcas Fairbrothers 12 Y
Arabella Fairbrothers 10 Y
Emma Fairbrothers 8 Y   
Matilda Farbrother 6  Y 
Susanna Fairbrothers 4  Y   
John Fairbrothers 2 Y     
Nimrod Fairbrothers 7m Y   

Hope this helps
Title: Re: 1851 Cencus look up Matilda Farbrother
Post by: Dougalmac2 on Sunday 19 February 06 20:17 GMT (UK)
CaroleW, Pennie, Sleat

How can I thank you guys enough.  The idea that older siblings had flown the nest had crossed my mind but I had no way of proving it.  As I said I shall purchase the OHFS church transcription to take it further.

I think that just about ties up the original request - unless anyone knows different!

Thanks a lot,  Mac
Title: Re: 1851 Cencus look up Matilda Farbrother COMPLETED
Post by: Marcus Holder on Wednesday 28 November 18 18:35 GMT (UK)
Hi, My name is Marcus Holder.  My Gt Gt Grandmother was Matilda,s sister Julia, born in Gt Rollright in  1839, William is buried in St Andrews Churchyard with his wife Elizabeth, in Gt Rollright.  No idea if your are still on here or interested in this, but thought I,d make contact, I know quite a lot about the family.

Kind Regards Marcus
Title: Re: 1851 Cencus look up Matilda Farbrother COMPLETED
Post by: JohninSussex on Wednesday 28 November 18 20:59 GMT (UK)
Hi, My name is Marcus Holder.  My Gt Gt Grandmother was Matilda,s sister Julia, born in Gt Rollright in  1839, William is buried in St Andrews Churchyard with his wife Elizabeth, in Gt Rollright.  No idea if your are still on here or interested in this, but thought I,d make contact, I know quite a lot about the family.

Kind Regards Marcus

Hello Marcus and welcome to Rootschat.

My G G Grandmother was Leah Farbrother(s) b. 1811 who is likely William's youngest sister and who married Thomas Jennings.  Does that look right to you?

John
Title: Re: 1851 Cencus look up Matilda Farbrother COMPLETED
Post by: Marcus Holder on Thursday 29 November 18 06:20 GMT (UK)
Looks OK, Williams wife Elizabeth was one of the first teachers in the school in Gt Rollright, their gravestone directly faces it,  there are two other Farbrother gravestones there, one is Williams brother and the other is his Nephew George, who lived next door to My Gt Gt Grandmother Julia (Leah,s Niece)Farbrother(Tompkins) in Rollright village, the two houses are still there, it,s a lovely church and churchyard, my wife and I visit 3 to 4 times a year on our way to Cheltenham, William was heavily involved in the Church, his name appears many times on baptisms, Weddings Etc, I,m guessing he was an educated man.
Title: Re: 1851 Cencus look up Matilda Farbrother COMPLETED
Post by: Marcus Holder on Thursday 29 November 18 06:23 GMT (UK)
Sorry my mistake, Leah was Julia,s aunt.
Title: Re: 1851 Cencus look up Matilda Farbrother COMPLETED
Post by: Dougalmac2 on Saturday 01 December 18 15:28 GMT (UK)
Hi Marcus and John

Its great to see an old post revived with further interest. I had recently found Williams grave pictured on 'Find a Grave' and this had started me back in this area. To be honest I never did get hold oh the OFHS CD for Great Rollright so this all triggered off a new, or restarted , line.

His grave posting gave his marriage to Margaret French and this I found in the Banbury listings. This gave his status as widower so 'the plot thickens'.

Still here and still very interested.

Mac

Title: Re: 1851 Cencus look up Matilda Farbrother COMPLETED
Post by: Marcus Holder on Tuesday 04 December 18 06:22 GMT (UK)
The William Farbrother, whose gravestone is in St Andrews Churchyard in Great Rollright, was married to Elizabeth Davis, who was born in Blockley in Glos, there is also a mistake on the listing of Williams children, at the bottom there is a John aged 2, this is in fact Julia,Ive studied it very closely and with a magnifying glass it becomes more obvious, also the gender is listed as female not male which confirms it. Williams sister Mary had a son George Farbrother who was illegitimate he is also buried in the cemetary. I have transcripts of letters he wrote to his daughter who had immigrated to Canada in the eighteen hundreds and the ones she sent back. Just a piece of maybe interesting info.
Title: Re: 1851 Cencus look up Matilda Farbrother COMPLETED
Post by: Dougalmac2 on Thursday 06 December 18 19:19 GMT (UK)
Hi Marcus

Thanks for that info.

I've obviously missed something with your mention of a list of Williams children. I think I've found most of them - I have - Caroline 1822, Caleb 1824, Timothy 1825, Dorcus 1828, Arabella 1831, Emma/Elizabeth 1832, Matilda 1834, Susannah 1836, Lavinia 1837, Julia 1839, Nimrod 1840, Jehu ? 1843 and Rhoda 1847. These almost all from census returns.

Apart from William I have found very little of Johns family, but your mention of a Mary going to Canada tied in with the fact that a lot of my early information came from a family history on the 'net from a Marcia Shears published by Western Michigan Geological Society, Michegan bordering  Canada. This had puzzled me and I've lost the link.

Mac