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Title: 1851, 1861, 1871 census Staffordshire for Snape
Post by: BJS on Monday 13 February 06 06:06 GMT (UK)
I would appreciate if anyone can find a George Snape in the  census in 1851,1861,1871 in Mow Cop in Staffordshire.  Mow Cop is sometimes listed as Mole.  Right on border with Cheshire.  Biddulph is a nearby larger town (maybe listed there??)
George Snape born about 1845 in Mow Cop.
Married Mary Turner in Mowcop in 1867 in Mow Cop.
Went to U.S. about 1873. 
Thanks,
Barbara
Title: Re: 1851, 1861, 1871 census Staffordshire for Snape
Post by: Arranroots on Monday 13 February 06 08:15 GMT (UK)
Hello Barbara

Welcome to Rootschat!

Here they are in 1851

HO107/2167/623/4

George SNAPE H M 33 - coal miner
Sarah W M 34
William son 10 - coal miner
Maryann dau 9 - house servant
George son 6 - scholar
Dinah dau 4
Edwin son 6 months

All b Biddulph

Address: Mow Cop, Biddulph, Staffordshire

kind regards, Arranroots  ;)

You don't mention his parents names, but a birth cert or his marriage cert would help to confirm the family.
Title: Re: 1851, 1861, 1871 census Staffordshire for Snape
Post by: Arranroots on Monday 13 February 06 08:24 GMT (UK)
Here is the same family in 1861

RG9/2612/42/13 & 14

George SNAPE H M 43 - collier
Sarah W M 44
Willm son U 19 - collier
Geo son 16 - ditto
Dinah dau 14
Edwin son 11
Walter son 5
Sarah Ellen dau 3

All b Biddulph

Address: Mow Cop, Biddulph, Staffordshire

A  ;)
Title: Re: 1851, 1861, 1871 census Staffordshire for Snape
Post by: Arranroots on Monday 13 February 06 08:29 GMT (UK)
1871 census

RG10/2843/40/26

George SNAPE H M 25 - coal miner - Staffordshire Biddulph
Mary W M 21 - Cheshire Mow Cop
Sarah sister U 13 - Staffordshire Biddulph

Address: Mow Cop, Brieryhurst, Staffordshire

(There does seem to be a bit of a border dispute going on here!!  Counties recorded as per original!)

A  ;)

Title: Re: 1851, 1861, 1871 census Staffordshire for Snape
Post by: BJS on Monday 13 February 06 23:10 GMT (UK)
The town of Mow Cop lies right on the border between Staffordshire and Cheshire.  The Snapes were born in Mow Cop Staffordshire.  Mary Turner, George's wife, was born in Cheshire in 1849 (according to the obit). It could be that she was born on the other side of town!  I don't know where her birth would have been recorded.  Any suggestions? 

Barbara
Title: Re: 1851, 1861, 1871 census Staffordshire for Snape
Post by: Bryant on Thursday 16 February 06 20:05 GMT (UK)
A Full house...............

1841
MOW COP, BIDDULPH, STAFFS
GEORGE SNAPE  20  AG LAB   Y
SARAH        "       20                Y
--------------------

Bryant  ;)
Title: 1871 census Staffordshire for Snape
Post by: BJS on Monday 27 March 06 18:59 BST (UK)
Hello,
     Can someone tell me if Sarah Snape (age 54) is in the 1871 census for Mowcop, Biddulph, Stafforshire?  I know her husband George (then age 53) is still alive in 1881 at age 63  living with son Walter. I am looking for their death records and I'd like to narrow down the search.
     Does anyone know how informative the death records are? I need Sarah's maiden name and parents, as well as George's parents. I'm slowly going through the free BMDs.
    The church records seem to be elusive as well. I've checked Biddulph church records and not a Snape could I find. There are other churches farther away. I keep chugging along.
Thank you so much,
Barbara
Title: Re: 1851, 1861, 1871 census Staffordshire for Snape
Post by: Arranroots on Monday 27 March 06 19:02 BST (UK)
Hi Barbara

this tells you a bit about certificates:

http://www.jaydax.co.uk/genlinks/certificates.html

http://home.clara.net/dixons/Certificates/indexbd.htm

Will have a look for her in 1871.

A  ;)
Title: Re: 1851, 1861, 1871 census Staffordshire for Snape
Post by: Arranroots on Monday 27 March 06 19:06 BST (UK)
Ermmm

Haven't we got George married to Mary in 1871, above?

 ;)

Title: Re: 1851, 1861, 1871 census Staffordshire for Snape
Post by: BJS on Monday 27 March 06 20:20 BST (UK)
Thank you so much for the webpages explaining what may be found in the various certificates. Wonderful.

No, that's his son George Snape married to Mary Turner. I'm looking further back to George Snape (born about 1818) and wife Sarah (born about 1817) . Sorry, I should have explained that.  A bit confusing there. George Snape is married to Sarah and you've already found them with their family in 1851 and 1861. They were probably married 1841 or before. The younger George Snape and wife Mary are indeed in 1871 with somebody's sister called Sarah, age 13. That Sarah could be the daughter of the older Snapes--thus, her mother Sarah may have died by then.I presumed the older George Snape should still be living in 1871 since I think I found him in 1881 with son Walter.
Does that make sense?  I haven't found the marriage of the older George Snape and Sarah--or births, or parents. I found a death certificate in Scotland which gave me information which I had never been able to find before (for years).  I'm hoping maybe a death certificate in England may be that helpful!
Thank you!
Barbara
 
Title: Re: 1851, 1861, 1871 census Staffordshire for Snape
Post by: Arranroots on Monday 27 March 06 20:41 BST (UK)
Hmmm

He should be there, but I can't see him!

I don't know if the census piece is missing or I am just not looking efficiently!

Might be worth posting again, specifically for 1871 - post the 1861 on the new thread & it should get more attention than this old one.  We don;t usually do that, but under the circumstances, people will tend to think this thread is complete as it is now rather long!

kind regards, Arranroots  ;)