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Title: Got Me Stummped. 1851 Whitby Census lookup Please
Post by: carol80 on Saturday 11 February 06 00:55 GMT (UK)
Trying to find a Arabella Dora Stonehouse b Dec qtr 1841 Whitby. Could sks find her on 1851 Census please. Her Parents maybe Matthew and Elizabeth(only because i have so many).
Being an unusual name she maybe easy to find!!! :D :D :D

Just found on IGI: Arabella Dora Stonehouse ch 28 Nov 1841 Lythe Parents: Matthew Stonehouse, Elizabeth ( Extracted Record) Still need to find her on a Census.
Regards Carol
Title: Re: Got Me Stummped. 1851 Whitby Census lookup Please
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 11 February 06 18:51 GMT (UK)
Nobody of that name shows up on any census.  Did she definitely survive into adulthood

I found a Matthew and Elizabeth Stonehouse on the 1861 but no children born in the 1840's.  Elizabeth was only born 1829
Title: Re: Got Me Stummped. 1851 Whitby Census lookup Please
Post by: carol80 on Saturday 11 February 06 20:54 GMT (UK)
When you have the time could you post the census for the Matthew and Elizabeth you found in 1861 as i do not have them yet.
I have been in contact with my 3rd Cousin's Wife and have confirmed her family but nobody knows what happened to her. I have the family in 1861 and she is not with them. I will post again with the info i have
Regards Carol
Title: Re: Got Me Stummped. 1851 Whitby Census lookup Please
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 11 February 06 21:33 GMT (UK)
1861 - Wakefield


Olvin Schofield 17 Wakefield Servant     
Ann P Stonehouse 10 Wakefield Daughter     
Edmund Stonehouse 7 Horbury Yorkshire Son     
Elizabeth Stonehouse 34 Bradford Wife     
Emily I Stonehouse 8 Horbury Daughter     
Lizzie K Stonehouse 2 Wakefield Daughter     
Martha E Stonehouse 4 South Ossett Yorkshire, Daughter   
Mary A Stonehouse 5 Horbury Daughter   
Matthew P Stonehouse 44 Mickleby Yorkshire Head   
Louisa Wilby 14 Wakefield Servant     
 
Title: Re: Got Me Stummped. 1851 Whitby Census lookup Please
Post by: Pels. on Saturday 11 February 06 21:53 GMT (UK)
Hi Carol,

It has me stumped too! I have tried to trace Arabella, like you I found the christening but nothing else?

I found this on the 1861 census - thinking it might fit your Matthew and Elizabeth, due to the Lythe connection, here goes:

Matthew Stonehouse, b.1801, Lythe.
Elizabeth,  b.1809,  Whitby.
Christopher. b.1827, Lythe,
Jane (Hind) b. 1857 Great Broughton/Little Broughton, (grand-daughter)

At the time of the census they all lived in Great Broughton.

Hope this helps.

Title: Re: Got Me Stummped. 1851 Whitby Census lookup Please
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 11 February 06 22:04 GMT (UK)
Hi

One way of possibly solving the mystery is to look for a death for her between 1841-1851

The FULL BMD index is now available to search free of charge at www.ancestry.co.uk.  You will find it described as England & Wales, BMD Index (Beta)

The partial index (freebmd) can also be searched on the same website or at http://freebmd.rootsweb.com
Title: Re: Got Me Stummped. 1851 Whitby Census lookup Please
Post by: carol80 on Saturday 11 February 06 22:16 GMT (UK)
Matthew and Elizabeth in Great Broghton are Arabella's Parent's. Christopher is her brother and Jane her niece. But NO Arabella. Looks like she died in Childhood but will have a look in Ancestry and see if i can find her.
Title: Re: Got Me Stummped. 1851 Whitby Census lookup Please
Post by: Pels. on Saturday 11 February 06 22:25 GMT (UK)
Hello,

It is a mystery - I checked the deaths earlier, nothing!
Arabella Dora, Arabella, Dora even Bella but as far as I can see no record?

One thing I did come across which may slot in later for you was a Jane Stonehouse, b. 1777 (Lythe) living as head of house with daughter Mary, b.1807 and grand-daughter, Margaret b.1827.

There appears to be a lot of births in Lythe around the time of Matthew (1809) - I wonder if Jane is their mother?

Sorry I haven't been able to help very much.
Title: Re: Got Me Stummped. 1851 Whitby Census lookup Please
Post by: 'Tricia on Saturday 11 February 06 22:27 GMT (UK)
I also checked the death registrations Dec 1841 - 1851 but didn't see her.

Her birth is officially registered so she did exist!

Tricia
Title: Re: Got Me Stummped. 1851 Whitby Census lookup Please
Post by: 'Tricia on Saturday 11 February 06 22:36 GMT (UK)
If this were my family I would now send for that birth certificate to see if it reveals any secrets.

Birth was registered qrt ending Dec 1841
Vol xxiv
Page 487

Tricia
Title: Re: Got Me Stummped. 1851 Whitby Census lookup Please
Post by: carol80 on Saturday 11 February 06 22:37 GMT (UK)
Maybe she did not like her name  ???
Title: Re: Got Me Stummped. 1851 Whitby Census lookup Please
Post by: 'Tricia on Saturday 11 February 06 22:38 GMT (UK)
Maybe illegitimate and given to another family?  Hopeless if that happened.

Tricia ??? ???
Title: Re: Got Me Stummped. 1851 Whitby Census lookup Please
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 11 February 06 22:49 GMT (UK)
Hi

Pels found an 1861 for Matthew Stonehouse but where are they in 1851??????
Title: Re: Got Me Stummped. 1851 Whitby Census lookup Please
Post by: carol80 on Saturday 11 February 06 23:09 GMT (UK)
Her father was born 1800 and her mother was born 1802. Her brother Christopher was born 1826, Thomas was born  1828 and Anne born 1830 then came Arabella 1841. Maybe she went to a younger family member although her Mother lived to be 90.
Title: Re: Got Me Stummped. 1851 Whitby Census lookup Please
Post by: carol80 on Sunday 12 February 06 22:44 GMT (UK)
She is not with her Stonehouse Granparents in 51.
Title: Re: Got Me Stummped. 1851 Whitby Census lookup Please
Post by: Jennifer Porter on Sunday 03 February 19 09:25 GMT (UK)
Arabella Dora Stonehouse is my Great Great Grandmother. I believe she came to Australia when she was 15. She died in 1931 and is buried in Rookwood cemetery, Sydney NSW. She married William Archer in 1874.
Title: Re: Got Me Stummped. 1851 Whitby Census lookup Please
Post by: joanbc53 on Wednesday 13 February 19 17:20 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I have looked up the birth registration for Arabella Dora STONEHOUSE on the GRO Online Index. The GRO ref. is as follows:
Arabella Dora Stonehouse, 1841, Dec Qtr., Registration District, Whitby Union, Volume 24, Page 497. Mother's Maiden Surname, JOHNSTON. My suggestion would be to apply for the birth certificate. I have had no luck with searches for death registration 1841-1861.

The GRO Online Index is a good place to search for free as it also gives the mother's maiden surname for registered births between 1837 and 1918. You can also search death registrations between 1837 and 1957.

Joan
Title: Re: Got Me Stummped. 1851 Whitby Census lookup Please
Post by: joanbc53 on Thursday 14 February 19 16:17 GMT (UK)
Hi Carol,

I've been doing a little bit more digging and thanks to a previous post by Jennifer Porter I have cast my search a bit further afield.

A google search for Arabella Dora STONEHOUSE turned up a marriage in 'The Empire' newspaper' in Sydney, dated Saturday, October 24, 1874. Transcript as follows:
"Woollahra.
On September 26, at Trinity Church, Glen Innes, by the Rev. G. M. Johnson, H.A.,
William, son of William Henry Archer of Brooklyn, New York, U.S.,
to Arabella Dora, daughter of Matthew Charles and Elizabeth Stonehouse, of
Lithe, near Whitby, Yorkshire, England."

The newspaper can be found on the TROVE website - the Australian equivalent of the BNA.
I hope this helps in your search.

Find a grave also have mention of her burial in Rookwood Cemetery.

Kind regards

Joan
Title: Re: Got Me Stummped. 1851 Whitby Census lookup Please
Post by: Ladyhawk on Thursday 14 February 19 19:19 GMT (UK)

It has me stumped too! I have tried to trace Arabella, like you I found the christening but nothing else?

I found this on the 1861 census - thinking it might fit your Matthew and Elizabeth, due to the Lythe connection, here goes:

Matthew Stonehouse, b.1801, Lythe.
Elizabeth,  b.1809,  Whitby.
Christopher. b.1827, Lythe,
Jane (Hind) b. 1857 Great Broughton/Little Broughton, (grand-daughter)

At the time of the census they all lived in Great Broughton.


Pels found an 1861 for Matthew Stonehouse but where are they in 1851??????

Birth year differs and Matthews occ jet miner 1861  ???

Could this be Matthew Stonehouse
1851 HO107; Piece: 2375; Folio: 61; Page: 51

George Coats   27
Mary Coats   29
George Coats   1
Matthew Stoneherrs   boarder mar. 34 Lythe Iron Miner

1851c HO107; Piece: 2374; Folio: 667; Page: 3
Christopher Stonehouse   24 Barnby shoemaker
Ann Stonehouse    sister 20

Is this Elizabeth with her married son Thomas

Marisough Pandan   52
Thomas Stonehouse   mar. 22 Barnby Yorkshire
Mary Stonehouse   21
Elizabeth Stonehouse   49 visitor dittoed as mar.
1851 HO107; Piece: 2368; Folio: 556; Page: 7;


Title: Re: Got Me Stummped. 1851 Whitby Census lookup Please
Post by: carol80 on Monday 18 February 19 21:18 GMT (UK)
I know believe Arabella did not belong to my Matthew and Elizabeth.
There were a lot of Stonehouse families in the same area so she will fit in somewhere

Thank you for your time

Carol