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Title: 1851 census look up for LEE
Post by: marriedwithkids on Saturday 25 September 04 13:39 BST (UK)
Hi Rick
could you please see if a James Lee who was born about 1790 so he would be around 60ish in the census with wife Charlotte who would be about same age and daughter Jane & son James [ i think these are twins] but unsure of age. and another son William. there was another son Henry but he was in Australia by then and i know he was born 1815 and that he was the eldest child.
thanks for looking
vickie
Title: Re: 1851 census look up for lee
Post by: Rick on Saturday 25 September 04 15:41 BST (UK)
Hi Rick
could you please see if a James Lee who was born about 1790 so he would be around 60ish in the census with wife Charlotte who would be about same age and daughter Jane & son James [ i think these are twins] but unsure of age. and another son William. there was another son Henry but he was in Australia by then and i know he was born 1815 and that he was the eldest child.
thanks for looking
vickie

Vickie

I checked for LEE and LEA, but there was no sign in any of the parishes I hold the 51 indexes for around Berkhamsted and St Albans (see look up offer for full list.)

The rest of the 51 along with the 41 and 61, is only available on film at the moment.

Sorry
Rick
Title: Re: 1851 census look up for lee
Post by: marriedwithkids on Thursday 30 September 04 09:19 BST (UK)
that's ok Rick. it was a long shot anyway.
perhaps you can help with another problem though.
my research has led me to believe this couple was born Hemel hempstead in Herefordshire but on his son Henry's convict papers it states family born Hertfordshire. is there
anywhere in Hertfordshire with a similar name to Hemel Hempstead.
thanks
Vickie
Title: Re: 1851 census look up for lee
Post by: Rick on Thursday 30 September 04 10:37 BST (UK)
that's ok Rick. it was a long shot anyway.
perhaps you can help with another problem though.
my research has led me to believe this couple was born Hemel hempstead in Herefordshire but on his son Henry's convict papers it states family born Hertfordshire. is there
anywhere in Hertfordshire with a similar name to Hemel Hempstead.
thanks
Vickie

Hemel Hempstead is definitely in Hertfordshire and not Herefordshire, and I cannot think of anywhere in Hertfordshire that sounds similar to Hemel Hempstead.

As I didn't check Hemel Hempstead in 1851, (because it is only available on film) they could have been living there then.  It might be worth hiring the film from your nearest LDS FHC to check.  The 1851 index for all of Herts is available for viewing at HALS http://www.hertsdirect.org/libsleisure/heritage1/HALS/ but if you cannot visit in person they will probably charge you to check it.

Rick

Title: Re: 1851 census look up for lee
Post by: AlgarvePete on Monday 01 November 04 20:14 GMT (UK)
Hi Vickie.I've found them in the 1841 census they were living at Boxmoor which is very close to Hemel Hempstead,also the census enumarator had entered the surname as Lea.      HO 107   441/6
  James Lea         age 60        Ag.labourer
  Charlotte           age45
  Jane                 age20
  James               age15
  Betsey              age10
All born in the county.Ages above 15 were rounded up or down to nearest 5.Regards,Peter Lee
Title: Re: 1851 census look up for lee
Post by: Rick on Tuesday 02 November 04 09:30 GMT (UK)
Hi Vickie.I've found them in the 1841 census they were living at Boxmoor which is very close to Hemel Hempstead,also the census enumarator had entered the surname as Lea.      HO 107   441/6
  James Lea         age 60        Ag.labourer
  Charlotte           age45
  Jane                 age20
  James               age15
  Betsey              age10
All born in the county.Ages above 15 were rounded up or down to nearest 5.Regards,Peter Lee

Vickie

For your records and in case you wish to look at the original entry, the correct reference for this entry is; HO107/441/7 Folio 61.  Boxmoor is in the parish of Hemel Hempstead.

Rick
Title: Re: 1851 census look up for LEE
Post by: Rick on Friday 04 November 05 15:01 GMT (UK)
Vickie

This looks like them in 1851.

HO107/1715 Folio 297b
Two Waters
Hemel Hempstead

LEA James, Head, Married, 75, Watchman, b Weston? Northamptonshire
LEA Charlotte, Wife, 56, b Hempstead, Herts
JOHNSON John, Son in law, Wharf Labourer, b Hempstead, Herts
JOHNSON Jane, Wife, 28, b Hempstead, Herts
LEA Elizabeth, Grandaughter, 3, b Hempstead, Herts.

Rick :)
Title: Re: 1851 census look up for LEE
Post by: anpagrant on Saturday 19 November 05 17:24 GMT (UK)
Hi Vickie,

I have come across yout messages reference the Lea Family which links to a missing connection in our own family. My gt. gt. Grandmother was Elizabeth Lea, who was born in Hemel Hempstead in c1847. Checking the parish records for the time of her birth, I found an Elizabeth Lea born illegitimately to Eliza Lea. On her marriage certificate, her father is stated as being a Thomas Hose.

The connection, I think, comes about from the 1851 census where Elizabeth Lea is living with her grandparents, James Lea & Charlotte Lea in Two Waters. I have noticed on the 1841 census that there is a Betsey Lea (10). Could this be Eliza Lea with Betsey being a shortened form of Elizabeth?

Would like to hear your comments on this and any other information you may have on the Lea family..........PAULA