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Independent Islands => Isle of Man => Topic started by: td on Thursday 09 February 06 18:07 GMT (UK)
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I don't seem to be getting anywhere with Daniel Kermode. In summary, this is what I have.
b. 1837-1840 IOM
Daniel may have emigrated to Australia on the Blue Jacket 1860. Then moved on to NZ in 1863.
He was a gold mine manger and shareholder in 1866 and a John Kermode was also shown as a shareholder. Even given the scarcity of Kermodes in NZ at the time I cannot find a relationship between the two.
He married Catherine McQuade in 1876, they had three children and he died in Auckland NZ 16 Sept 1916.
The marriage and death certificates do not record details of mother and father. The death certificate shows IOM as birth place, age as 76 years and time in NZ as 50 years.
Any assistance appreciated.
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The only Daniel Kermode born 1837 (+/- 10 years) on the 1851 Isle of Man census is:
HO107/2524 Fo 455 Pg 31
Laxey Hill, Laxey
Daniel Kermode - c1794 Head - Joiner employing 2 men
Eleanor Kermode - c1814 Wife
William Kermode - c1832 Son - Joiner app
Daniel Kermode - c1837 Son - Errand boy
Hannah Kermode - c1844 Daughter
James Kermode - c1846 Son
Sarah Kermode - c1848 Daughter
All born Lonan
From IGI Batch C038081
Christening: Daniel Kermode 20 DEC 1836 Lonan, Isle Of Man, England
Parents: DANIEL KERMODE & ELLN KERMODE
But this may be the Daniel Kermode who turns up in Lancashire in 1861 so playing with the name a bit another possible in 1851 (again this is the only Daniel +/- 10 yrs)
HO107/2524 Fo 96 Pg 3
Ballaburagh (?), Andreas
William Cormode - c1809 Head - Farmer of 42 Acres
Jane Cormode - c1810 Wife
William Cormode - c1836 Son - Scholar
Daniel Cormode - c1838 Son - Scholar
John Cormode - c1842 Son - Scholar
Margret Cormode - c1845 Daughter
Catharine Cormode - c1850 Daughter
Daniel Kelley - c1836 Farm Servant
William Teare - c1839 Farm Servant
All born Andreas
None of this family seem to be anywhere in 1861!
From IGI Batch C035751
Christening: Daniel Cormode 10 SEP 1837 Andreas, Isle Of Man, England
Parents: WILLIAM CORMODE & JANE TEAR
Batch M035751
WM. CORMODE married JANE TEAR 18 DEC 1830 Andreas, Isle Of Man, England
Manx Family Names
http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/manxnb/v05p020.htm
KERMODE and CORMODE, contraaed from Mac Dermot, a shortened form of Mac Diarmid, 'Diarmaid's son.'
Something for you to think about I hope anyway!
Best wishes
Sarah
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A Daniel Cormode aged 43 and born the Isle of Man, is with his wife and son on the 1880 census in Delton Wisconsin.
Regards
Valda
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Thanks Sarah and Valda.
Valda would seem to eliminate Daniel Cormode.
Sarah, how comprehensive was the 1851 census? I have had a look at the 1841 census, which may have been of lower quality, and I can't seem to get a correlation with that Daniel.
Terry
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This is the reference for the Daniel Kermode from the 1851 census from the 1841 census
HO107 1464/2 folio 26 page 25
Laxey Isle of Man Lonan Isle of Man
Daniel Kermode 45 Isle of Man Joiner
Ellen Kermode 25 Isle of Man
Ann Kermode 15 Isle of Man
John Kermode 12 Isle of Man
Wm Kermode 9 Isle of Man
Daniel Kermode 4 Isle of Man
I don't see how any indexer could have made much from the way the surname is written by the census enumerator. It does mean there are other possible Daniel Kermodes within a five year range of circa 1837 if you just search on Daniel and scroll to the ks which is how I found this Daniel indexed as Kennish. The 1851 census would eliminate some at least of the possibilities when you can see their surnames spelt again, hopefully much clearer.
Regards
Valda
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Thanks Valda, your lateral thinking has given me something of real value.
Much appreciated,
Terry
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try Daniel s/o Thomas Kermode + cath Kermode bapt Lon Lon 1840-10-25 - in 1841 census along with brothers John & William ;
father Thomas buried Lonan 2 Apr 1847 - widow cath found as wife of Charles Fargher in Lonan in 1851 along with stepsons William + Daniel - there is no burial for a John of correct age in Lonan but he could be working elsewhere.
A second marriage is a well known driver to leave home early; Interesting as I can't find a marriage between Charles Fargher & Cath
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Excellent.
This is the first match for a Daniel Kermode birth year I have heard of, assuming baptism was close to DOB in IOM.
The second closest is that shown for Daniel at the Fargher household in 1851.
A couple of questions:
1. The death certificate for Daniel shows father's occupation as 'Carpenter'. Does that appear in any of the Thomas records (there is no fathers first name).
2. Any more information on the baptism record?
3. You show the baptism as Lon Lon is that Lonan Lonan?
Much appreciated,
Terry
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Lon = Lonan
I only have the 1841 census index (I generally use the Manx Museum microfilm but am off Island at present) and havn't transcribed Lonan - post a query on http://www.isle-of-man.com/cgi-bin/interests/genealogy/bulletin/index.pl?noframes as someone thare will have immediate access to Lonan 1841 which should show father's 1841 occp - the step father was a boat builder if that helps .
Generally away from Douglas bapt was within a couple of days of birth but as 19th C developed the gap could widen
There might be additional info in the Lonan Parish register - an excellent official transcription is filmed and is on LDS microfilm (see www.manxnotebook.com/ under genealogy look for LDS film numbers - given this 'silk purse' of a transcription it took real skill by LDS to turn it into the sow's ear of the Manx IGI though some parish registers (& I think Lonan was one) were not models of record keeping - official registration didn't start until 1877/8.
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Interestingly Charles is shown as a carpenter in 1861 and the related trade of boat builder in 1851.
Given Daniels age when his father died he may have picked up Charles' trade.
But to be sure, I'll follow up your very good suggestions.
Regards,
Terry
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I don't mean to hi-jack this thread, but sarahjane412's post in July last year cited my family:
Ballaburagh (?), Andreas
William Cormode - c1809 Head - Farmer of 42 Acres
Jane Cormode - c1810 Wife
William Cormode - c1836 Son - Scholar
Daniel Cormode - c1838 Son - Scholar
John Cormode - c1842 Son - Scholar
Margret Cormode - c1845 Daughter
Catharine Cormode - c1850 Daughter
Daniel Kelley - c1836 Farm Servant
William Teare - c1839 Farm Servant
All born Andreas
None of this family seem to be anywhere in 1861!
From IGI Batch C035751
Christening: Daniel Cormode 10 SEP 1837 Andreas, Isle Of Man, England
Parents: WILLIAM CORMODE & JANE TEAR
Batch M035751
WM. CORMODE married JANE TEAR 18 DEC 1830 Andreas, Isle Of Man, England
They were still there for several more years -- some of them. The Daniel Cormode in that family did move to Wisconsin. He lived near his sister, a Mrs. Daniel Brew. The son, William, moved to Kansas. He and wife purchased land there from another Manxman, John Cain, in 1867. Jane Tear Cormode died before the 1881 census; William Cormode, the father died in the late 1880's.
I know of the families of all of the children except son, John Cormode.
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Hi
If anyone is still interested, I have info on Daniel Kermode 1836 Isle of Man. He married a Martha Quirk, also of IOM, they moved to the USA. Daniel died in 1900 in Cleveland, Ohio, and Martha in 1885 in St Louis, Missouri. They had the following children:
James - 1863
Clara - 1866 in Lancashire, England, d USA
Martha - 1868 Lancs, d 1944 St Louis, USA
Elizabeth - 1872
Emeline Mildred - 1877 Cleveland, Ohio
Annie - 1881 Cleveland
Daisey - 1882 Cleveland
Daniel's parents were Daniel Kermode 1793, and Eleanor. Daniel had a sister Hannah Kermode, b 1844 in Lonan, IOM, she married my 1st cousin 5x removed Henry Bateman. Daniel Kermode snr was also married to a Margaret Killip, b 1803 IOM. They had a daughter called Anne Kermode who married a Joseph Raisbeck, b1823, they moved to Victoria, Australia. The Killip family were extensive on the Isle of Man, and also in Liverpool (then in Lancashire).
Helen :)
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do you have the parentage of Eleanor Kermode - I don't seem to have any Eleanors baptised in Lonan around that time (12814) - is she possibly illeg d/o Margt Corkill ?
I have seen the 2003+2004 posts on http://www.isle-of-man.com/cgi-bin/interests/genealogy/bulletin/index.pl?noframes;read=503248
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Hi
All the Census records for Eleanor from 1841 to 1891 say that she was born on the Isle of Man, probably in Lonan, but I do not have a record for her birth. However, if you search for all Eleanor's born on the Isle of Man within 5 years of 1814 on the Family Search website there are quite a few in Lonan. I am not sure which one she would be at the moment, but I'll let you know if I dig anything up.
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true
Helen :)
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Hello, I recently acquired a cabinet photograph of the grave site of John Cormode, died 1866 / Wife Margaret died 1897. Photograph was taken by R. W. Greer / Monumental Mason / 21 a, Athol Street / Douglas