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how do I get a birth certificate for a Canadian gg grandfather. getting his death certificate from the records office as he died here. but I don't think it will tell me were he was from in Canada going by the books I have.
His name was George alton Cherry.
any info gratefully received .
Regards Lee
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Canadian records are organised by province, so it depends where and when. If this is the George Alton Cherry who was a doctor in 1891, you might have some luck looking at the Medical Directory/Medical Register as he should be listed in these for the years he was in the UK practicing medicine - usually names qualifications etc. The Guildhall library has a full set of these, other large libraries will probably also:
http://www.history.ac.uk/gh/apoths.htm
A lot of provinces didn't start recording births (as in civil records; there are church records before these dates) until relatively late (Ontario, 1869, for example, New Brunswick officially 1888 although some 'late' births were registered 1888 and after for people born as far back as the turn of the century.)
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thanks for your help.
regards Lee Sapsford
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can any body look him up on the medical register as am unable to get to the any places which hold the registers. he was a doctor around 1885-1891. in England and also in Canada before this time his name again was George Alton Cherry.
Any help very gratefully received.
Regards Lee Sapsford
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Hi Lee, this is a very useful site and may help you to find out where you can get the information you are after.
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/genealogy/022-604-e.html#q1
Kev. ;D
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kev thanks for your info.
regards Lee
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got his death certificate he died of Dipheria he was only 31 and he was a medical practitoner at harrow green surgery leytonstone. I am also hope to get some more info back from the guildhall who were very helpful from the medical register. Now I would love to get a photo of his surgery and find out were he was a doctor in Canada.
thanks again for all your help.
regards Lee
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Hi Lee,
What year was he born?
Karen
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I believe it was 1862 possibly Ontario, Frontenac county. Any help gratefully received.
regards Lee Sapsford
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Do you know what his parents names were?
Karen
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so i am not sure about his parents
Regards Lee
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Any siblings?
Karen
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just got a reply from the BMA. this is were he
worked in England.
We have only the UK Medical Register and Medical Directory
for information on doctors' careers. The Medical Register shows
that George Alton Cherry registered as doctor 4 April 1885.
His qualifications were Licentiate of the Society of Apothecaries
of London 1885. His addresses in the Medical Register are as follows:
1885-1887 - 43 Frederick Street, London WC
1888-1889 - 81 Hight Street Deptford, London
1890-1893 - Grosvenor Villas, Burrage Road, Plumstead
1893 is the final year in which he is registered. It is likely that he died in that year or just after.
he had one son in England that is all I know ofGeorge Alton Cherry
born 1894 just after he died.
regards Lee
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In 1881 there's a family of
Abner Cherry born England
Mary Cherry born Ireland
Maria born Ontario
Ruth born Ontario
GEORGE CHERRY born Ontario - listed as a student born 1862
Mary Cherry
Charley Neil
They are in the County of York, the location now would be Aurora, Ontario
Do you think this may be your George?
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Is there a reason why you think he was in the County of Frontenac?
If he was in the army and a doctor, perhaps he was at RMC, Royal Military College in Kingston which is in the Frontenac County.
Karen
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no i think you are right thanks that is nearer to what I have. but he still may have gone to that college as my nan always said he was an army doctor.
regards Lee
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So you don't think that the family in York County could be your George?
Karen
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no i do think you have got the right family and
I have made a mistake. they probably were yours in York Ontario :)
regards Lee
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Oh, ok.
The father listed there Abner Cherry was a hotel keeper. I know there are records for people who were Innkeepers in Ontario.
I can't remember the link off hand, but will find it.
1862 is too early for birth registrations in Ontario, but perhaps on the siblings information there will be more information.
Would you like that information?
Karen
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any info is interesting to me thanks
regards Lee
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Death for Abner John Cherry
Place of birth: England
Date of Birth: March 17, 1834
Name of Father: John Cherry
Name of Mother: Mary Fox
Place of Death: Aurora, Ontario
Date of Death: October 14, 1923
Informant: Mrs. Hulse, daughter
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Found a birth for
Thomas Abner Hulse
Mother: Ruth Cherry
Father: Thomas Hulse
Occupation of Father: Piano Agent
Date of Birth: Nov. 20, 1905
Place: Aurora, Ontario
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Hi Lee,
I just looked in the phonebook and there are "Cherry's" living in Newmarket, which if you were in Newmarket and driving to Aurora you would be there before you could blink, the Towns basically run into another.
Karen
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Here's a couple of links for the Tavern Keepers in Ontario. Abner Cherry is mentioned in the first one.
http://ist.uwaterloo.ca/~marj/genealogy/tavern.html
http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/tavern.shtml
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Thanks for your help I will have to have a look tomorrow.
regards Lee
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Hi Lee,
Maybe there is an marriage annoucement or death annoucement for him in the newspaper in Aurora if this is the right family?
If you'd like I will be going to Aurora within the next week or two (that's where my hairdresser is ;D) and I could have a look in the paper for you, plus my neighbors mum is one of the librarians there.
Karen
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Thanks that would be very very good of you.
regards Lee
(I can't wait to let my great aunt Iris (Drake) formerly Cherry know all this she is my last link to them alive and she has been very helpful with info as well)
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Ok, great.
I'll let you know when I'm going and how I make out.
Even an obit. for Abner Cherry may make mention of his son predeceasing him.
Karen
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Guildhall Library holds records of the licentiateship of the Society of Apothecaries:
http://www.history.ac.uk/gh/apoths.htm
Not sure how much info that would give you, though.
Abner Cherry was also in York West in 1871, you can see him on the index here and order a copy of the full census:
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/02010803_e.html
Here's Abner Cherry in 1861, 'married within year', what might be stepchildren in the household.
http://www.ogs.on.ca/ogspi/6cd/c186c017.htm
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That's great what you found in the 1861 Jorose!
In 1911, there is a daughter with the last name Mably and the family underneath Abner, Raspin Cherry is a innkeeper, perhaps he took over?
Karen
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Found a death for
Mary Cherry
Born: Ireland
Date of Birth: March 16, 1832
Date of Death: Dec 25, 1923
Place of Death: Aurora
Informant: Miss Mabley, daughter
Karen
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Found a death for
Maria Mabley
Date of Birth: Dec 3, 1867
Birthplace: Ontario
Date of Death: July 1, 1932
Father: James Mabley - England
Mother: Mary Melville - Ireland
Informant: Mrs. Hulse, sister Aurora Ontario
Karen
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Wow these are interesting.
Thanks again for your help I will have to
send these off to my aunt by post today
she will be very interested.
Regards Lee
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Hi Lee,
Just a quick update, I spoke with the girl at the library in Aurora and there is an obit. for Abner Cherry, so I will get a copy and hopefully it will have information to confirm if this is your family.
Karen
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Thanks again for your help and time.
Regards Lee
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Obituary for Abner Cherry, October 19, 1923
The death occurred at his home on Wellington Street on Sunday afternoon of Abner Cherry, one of the oldest pioneers of York County. Mr. Cherry was born at Hessle, Hull, England, 90 years ago. He went into the hotel business at Fisherville, 3rd concession of York township, and kept an establishment for 52 years, never during all that period having a charge laid against him. He was a great favorite with the people in the district where he lived. Some years ago he retired and came to Aurora to live. In religion he was an Anglican and in politics a Conservative. He is survived by his widow and found daughters, Mrs. Hulse and Miss Mably of this place; Mrs. Johnson of Toronto, and Mrs. Sutton of London, also one brother, Mr. Joseph Cherry of Gormley. The funeral took place on Wednesday afternoon to the Aurora Cemetery.
So, no mention of George. I didn't have time to look at the paper for around the time George died in 1893, but the librarian thought it would be possible for him to be there. I am going back to the library on next Wednesday (without children :)) and will look at that year.
Karen
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he seems like quite a man even if I'm not related to him. thanks again for your help.
PS No luck with RMC of Canada from Ross at the RMC museum but she has got his name wrong as cheery. nothing from Queens university not even a response.
regards Lee