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Title: 1841 Onwards - Guiltcross
Post by: wamwig on Thursday 09 February 06 13:24 GMT (UK)

Can anybody help me locate a William Lovick born around 1840 probably in Riddlesworth, Thanks.

Title: Re: 1841 Onwards - Guiltcross
Post by: down-under on Thursday 09 February 06 14:02 GMT (UK)

1861 H0107/1822 folio 296 page 4 Riddlesworth Norfolk

William Lovick age 10 born Riddlesworth Norfolk ag lab
Charles Lovick head age 40 born Riddlesworth
Susan wife age 40 Garboldisham Norfolk
Eliza dau age 1   all born Riddlesworth
Lucy dau age 7
Thomas son age 13
Robert age  8 son
Reed  or Rud ?age 14 son



Pam

Title: Re: 1841 Onwards - Guiltcross
Post by: wamwig on Thursday 09 February 06 16:01 GMT (UK)

Thanks Pam

Should that be aged 20 for William as I have him in the 1881 census in Great Amwell, Herts aged 40. He is my GGGF.

I think that is Rudd, which seems to be a family name, there are probably several other Lovick families there, and in fact still are!, who will all be related.

Anthony

Title: Re: 1841 Onwards - Guiltcross
Post by: mantaray on Thursday 09 February 06 20:25 GMT (UK)

Hi Anthony
the census ref is not 1861 but 1851 ho/107 /1822 f296 page 4 is 1851 i just checked so dates now should tie up
Guiltcross,Riddlesworth Norfolk

Regards Ray

Title: Re: 1841 Onwards - Guiltcross
Post by: wamwig on Thursday 09 February 06 20:45 GMT (UK)

Thanks Ray

That ties up one or two loose ends, and starts a few more!

Regards

Anthony

Title: Re: 1841 Onwards - Guiltcross
Post by: jowake on Friday 10 February 06 20:22 GMT (UK)

Here are the returns from the 1841 census, I don't know why there is a discrepancy for the ages of Charles and Susan.

HO 107/775
Page 3
Schedule 4
Riddlesworth

ROBERT LOVACK    55   ag lab          N
CHARLES LOVACK  25   ag lab          Y
SUSAN LOVACK      25                      Y
RUDD LOVACK         4                       Y
THOMAS LOVACK     3                       Y
WILLIAM LOVACK     1                      Y

Hope this helps

Regards

John

Title: Re: 1841 Onwards - Guiltcross
Post by: wamwig on Friday 10 February 06 23:23 GMT (UK)

Thanks John

I guess its because one or both of them are rounded to the nearest five years, or they just couldnt count! Still it gives me one more name to add to my list, and I would presume here that Robert is probably Charles father?

Regards

Anthony

Title: Re: 1841 Onwards - Guiltcross
Post by: jowake on Saturday 11 February 06 12:44 GMT (UK)

Hi Anthony                                                                                 

I think it probably is but unfortunately the 1841 census does not give you those details,if it is his father at least you know he was not born in Norfolk.

Good Luck

John

Title: Re: 1841 Onwards - Guiltcross
Post by: wamwig on Saturday 11 February 06 14:14 GMT (UK)

Thanks again John

Have also had a look on IGI and found a Robert Lovick married a Mary Wilson on 13 June 1808 at Riddlesworth, which looks like him. With Riddlesworth being on the Norfolk/Suffolk border perhaps he was originally from Suffolk, rather than Norfolk. (just looked on IGI again and there is a Robert Lovick born 1783 in Hopton, Suffolk, which is only a couple of miles away and looks like a suitable candidate). Amazingly there are still Lovicks farming at Riddleworth so I will probably try to get in touch with them.

Regards

Anthony

Title: Re: 1841 Onwards - Guiltcross
Post by: kimmik on Monday 06 March 06 10:28 GMT (UK)

Hi Anthony
l hope you see this message as William Henry Lovick born 1840 in Riddlesworth is my gt gt grandfather.
He married Hannah Twiddy in 1864 and they lived in Great Amwell.
Children: Edgar, William, Ada Phillis (this could be the other way round), Walter, Robert, Thomas, Lucy, Hannah Jessie, Ella, Arthur, Edwin, Whatty, Nanette Amelia (my gt gran), John Robert, Emily Minnie, May and the last one Jack (not to sure on this one).
l have been trying to find out if Charles Lovicks  father was Robert.  l have Robert Lovick married to Mary Wilson 13th June 1808 (she was born about 1782 and died 1832 age 50), the children that l have linked to them is Rudd baptised 8.5.1813, Sarah bapt. 4.10.1814, Elizabeth bapt. 20.2.1816, James bapt. 4.11.1817, Henry bapt. 19.9.1820 and Mary Ann bapt. 30.8.1823.  Because the records that l had been looking at didnt go back any further, l couldn't  find when Charles was born, l just know that it is roughly 1810/11.  On the 1881 census Susan Lovick age 60, is living with her brother in law as a house keeper.  His name is James and his age is 66. 

Let me know if you want to know more ok.

Regards
Kim

Title: Re: 1841 Onwards - Guiltcross
Post by: wamwig on Monday 06 March 06 14:02 GMT (UK)

Hi Kim

Mine too, small world, Hannah Jessie married my gt grandfather George Parker and they lived at Gas House Cottages in Gt Amwell presumably next to or at where the Lovicks lived.  What sort of cousins does that make us then?

Well the supposition I made was that Robert was Charles father as he was living with him in the 1841 census, I've been looking at the IGI records but must admit I have been sidetracked somewhat over the last couple of weeks with what looks like a bit of a scandal on another branch (nothing to do with Lovick) and I've also been trying to research Whatte's Boer War records, without success so far.

Be good to share info with you as we are both looking for the same info, you can have details of my branch if you like.

Regards

Anthony

Title: Re: 1841 Onwards - Guiltcross
Post by: kimmik on Monday 06 March 06 15:00 GMT (UK)

Hi Anthony,
Have sent you a pm.  Well l tried, hope it gets to you ok.
Kim