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Title: Wiston, Selby, West Riding 1841 and 1851
Post by: jackspratt on Saturday 04 February 06 20:25 GMT (UK)
Can anybody find Charles Thompson and his family in either or both of the above censuses please?

In 1861 he is a 67 year old widower, farming one acre  in Whisker Lane (which I think will be in Wiston) in the Selby census.

I'll be very grateful for any help anybody can give me.

Jackspratt
Title: Re: Wiston, Selby, West Riding 1841 and 1851
Post by: oly on Saturday 04 February 06 20:43 GMT (UK)
Hello Js

1851 Census Wistow HO107/2351 folio 367 page 18
West part of Wistow Common
Charles Thompson head widower 56 ag lab b. Wistow
George  son 28 woodsman b. Wistow
Thomas son 26 ag lab b. Wistow
Merig dau 14 at home b. Wistow

Regards Oly
Title: Re: Wiston, Selby, West Riding 1841 and 1851
Post by: jackspratt on Saturday 04 February 06 21:10 GMT (UK)
Hello Oly

I had you as off line otherwise I would have come to you direct as I owe you an apology.

You gave me a return a few days ago on a John Pick aged 20 in Harrogate which I rejected. In fact I think now, after further investigation, you were correct.

Many thanks for that and this one on Charles Thompson too.

Regards

Jack   
Title: Re: Wiston, Selby, West Riding 1841 and 1851
Post by: oly on Saturday 04 February 06 21:11 GMT (UK)
Hello again
I am pleased the one I Picked fitted

1841 Census Wistow HO107/ 1281/16 page 24a
Charles Thompson 26  M S
George         "         15   "
Thomas        "         19   "
Ann S------n             15 F S     Think the name may be Simpson

On the same page
John Thompson 30 Farmer
Maria       "         25
Ann          "         3 months
Charles Thompson 70 Ind

On the next page
Charles Thompson 45 ag lab
Sarah           "         40  and six children

The ages need some sorting I have double checked them
Also they are normally rounded down in the 1841 census to the lower 0 or 5
There are other Thompson families in Wistow
All above born in Yorkshire

Regards Oly
Title: Re: Wiston, Selby, West Riding 1841 and 1851
Post by: jackspratt on Saturday 04 February 06 21:22 GMT (UK)
I'm not sure things weren't simpler a few minutes ago. I was hoping there'd be an Elizabeth b.1829. 

But thanks for your persistence. I think the 1851 family was the right one but I'll keep all this in mind

regards

Jack
Title: Re: Wiston, Selby, West Riding 1841 and 1851
Post by: PenelopeSpider on Sunday 07 December 08 00:47 GMT (UK)
Hi

Hope you don't mind me responding to such an old post but have just joined and was searching for hits for 'Wistow'.

I'm a descendant of William Thompson of Wistow, born 1791, elder brother of Charles Thompson of Wistow, born 1794. If I remember right, Charles lived into his 90s, and had a gravestone in Wistow churchyard. If he belongs to you and you're interested, I can search out a photo of it for you?

The Thompsons came to Wistow in 1713. We think now they came from Beverley.  I have done quite a lot of research on them, as my mum was a Thompson. She was born at Stockbridge Farm, Ryther. All the Thompsons in 18thC and 19thC Wistow parish records - and all those in Cawood - are our family.

My website www.stillingfleettragedy.org has an image or two of Cawood and Stockbridge Farm and one or two of the 19thC Thompsons, on it, and concerns a Thompson relative. Do take a look if we're related!  If you have info or are interested in the info I have, do contact me. I have spent a lot of time with Cawood and Wistow parish records!
Title: Re: Wiston, Selby, West Riding 1841 and 1851
Post by: jackspratt on Saturday 20 December 08 20:00 GMT (UK)
Hello Penelope

I'm grateful that you took the trouble to reply and I'm sorry to have taken so long to pick up your reply. The Rootschat emails come to an email address which isn't my usual one and I haven't looked at it for some while. It must have been a sixth sense that made me check it tonight.

The Thompson family at Wistow is, in fact, part of my wife's family and I'll quote  what I have written about them. You are probably better qualified to say whether there is a relationship

"In 1841 Charles Thompson, born in 1794, was an agricultural labourer in Wistow, a village 2 miles from Cawood, 3 miles north of Selby, and 12 from York.
A Thompson family can be found in Wistow back to John Thompson born about 1710. At the time of the 1841 census there were two Charles Thompsons. One was a farmer but the one we are concerned with was an agricultural labourer.
He was married to Sarah (Marshall) and they lived in the area known as Wistow Common together with their children Deborah  8, Elizabeth,12, Hannah, 2, John, 10, Joseph, 6, and Mary, 4. They had at least two other sons, George, 15, and Thomas, 13. They were living with their grandmother, Margaret Marshall, 70, on the farm of James Backhouse, perhaps an uncle on their mother’s side. Also living there was Charles Thompson, 20. Clearly the Wistow Thompsons are many and complicated to unravel.
Sarah appears to have died in 1847 or 1848 and in 1851 George and Thomas  had come home to live with Charles and his daughter Mary, now called Maria. She married Thomas  Hembrough in 1860 and died in 1878.
By 1861 Charles was living alone at 65 Whisker Lane, Wistow declaring himself to be a farmer of one acre. George and Thomas had moved out and were boarding with Brian Raper and his wife, Ellen, who might have been their sister, at Wistow Lane, Cawood.
Ten years later Thomas was married to a 28 year old wife. Progressing from the 1851 census he should have been 46 years old but admits only to 41. In the next ten years he only ages another seven.
George, who was a wood-man, had also married by 1871. He and his wife, however, had no children. Both men were widowers but still alive in 1901.
Charles, their father, featured in no more censuses having died in the first months of 1871.
Our main concern, however, should be with Charles and Sarah’s daughter, Elizabeth. She too left home and by 1851, at age 21, she is forty miles away from her father and working as a house servant in Ornhams House, Aldborough, the home of George Crow, a “Landed Proprietor”, and his brother Edmund, who farmed 470 acres with 11 labourers. Both were unmarried and had their 30 year old niece as a housekeeper. Elizabeth did not stay with them much longer and in 1854 she married George Pick in Leeds on December 4th. "

Sorry it's so long but it's my full picture of the Wistow Thompsons. Any amplification that you can provide will be more than welcome.

Regards

Jack