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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Mayo => Topic started by: runicman on Friday 03 February 06 19:57 GMT (UK)
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I have the death certificates of my great great granddad and great great grandmother who came to Southport in Lancs, UK, in the nineteenth century. They lived in a part of the town known as ‘Little Ireland’ and were called James and Sarah Regan. He died in 1878 she is 1898. He was 69 when he died she was 84.
We don’t know when they came to the UK but presume it was at the time of the potato famine.
We are told that they came from ‘County Mayo’ yet that’s all we know. Any information on the Regans of Mayo, Regans that moved to Southport from that region etc would be very fascinating.
She was formerly known as 'Sarah Kerrigan' - both born about 1811.
We believe they were Catholic.
Thanks
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Hi Runicman
A warm welcome to RootsChat! ;)
Have you had a look at all the usual general resources I tend to suggest? ;)
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,83852.0.html
You could also look at these Mayo specific sites which may help.
CENSUS RETURNS
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,9011.0.html
PARISH RECORDS
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,9015.0.html
GRIFFITHS VALUATION
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,9020.0.html
Perhaps you would like to have a look at these resources to see if there is anything that might help you.
Please come back with any further queries or to let us know how you get on.
Best wishes
Ticker
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Hi Runciman
I have today come across your posting from a long time ago about Regans /Kerrigans of Little Ireland, Southport. I have all the St. Marie's church records. St. Marie's is where all the Irish immigrants went.
If you need any information let me know.
Sandgrounder
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Thanks Sandgrounder - that sounds interesting. I know that my great grandad was married at that church.
Great Grandad 'Mark' married Ellan Wilkinson at St Maries in 1870. Mark's dad was James Regan, Ellen's dad was William Wilkinson.
James I think was from Mayo and Married to Sarah who witnesses the wedding.
We need to trace back to James and Sarah Regan (our graeat great GPs ) and before.
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James died in 1878 30 December aged 69 of bronchitis. Sarah was there when he died at Little Ireland. He was a licenced hawker for trade.
Sarah died aged 84 of senile decay in 1898, 27 March again at Little Ireland. Ellen was present.
Sarah was from Connaught in Eire born about 1806.
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Hi runicman,
a belated welcome to rootschat. :)
do you have your family in the censuses? I think it's them who are in Preston in 1851 and they have a child Patrick with them who was born in Chester. Is this your family? So they would have arrived in Southport via Preston and Chester.
This would tell you that they arrived sometime between Mary 1841/43 and Patrick 1847. I know it doesn't help with Mayo origins though.
best wishes
heywood
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SORRY BUT THAT MUST BE A DIFFERENT LOT.
Thanks anyway.
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Sorry for that :( - there are lots of simliarities:
I thought it was them as they are James and Sally (Sarah) , Bridget, Mary, Mark and Patrick- later your family have daughter Bridget married to John Kerrigan (there is a marriage in Preston) and they still have Mary and Mark - ages are same/similar.
best wishes
heywood
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Hello again,
I found the following marriages:
22 July 1876
John Kerigan and Eliza (?) Lyons (Eliza was transcribed with a question mark)
Fathers: Patrick Kerigan and Thomas Lyons
Witnesses:
Edward Sweeney, Marshside
Elizabeth Easham(?), Southport
Edward Sweeney is on my family tree and he married Elizabeth Eastham.
6th May 1893
James Keregan and Bridget Riley, both of Little Ireland
Fathers: Patrick Keregan and Thomas Riley
Witnesses: John and Agnes Burke, Bury Road, Birkdale
On October 17 1874 John Kerrigan and Ellen Cain were witnesses at the wedding of Michael Cain and Mary McGurn. Witnesses were usually family members so this might be useful information.
As the Kerrigans were close to my Conways and Sweeneys, it is possible that they came from the same area in Ireland.
My family came from Westport, Mayo.
If you have a look at the censuses it will give you an idea of when they arrived in England and hopefully might give a town of birth as well as "Ireland".
(I found one entry stating "Westport" in 1851!)
Sandgrounder
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Many thanks - although there is no mention of the Regan name the Kerrigan surname may help . I shall have to come back to this one.
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Hello again
Having looked further back in the records, it appears that some of the Regans were in Southport in 1849 although I can't find them on the 1851 census
1st Dec 1859 Birth
Mary Mulvaney
Parents Joseph Mulvaney and Bridget Brohony
Witnesses John Regan and Elizabeth Haigh
30th July 1849 Birth
Thomas Horan
Parents Michael Horan and Bridget Gill
Witnesses James Regan and Bridget O'Connell
4 September 1851 Birth
Sarah Regan
Parents James Regan and Sarah Keregan
Witnesses John Garry and Ann Brohony
Interestingly, to tie in with the Horan/Regan connection above, I found the following:
5th Nov 1892 Marriage
James Horan - father Martin Regan!! Living in Little Ireland
Catherine Gannon, father Michael Gannon. 135 St. Luke's Grove, Southport
Witnesses: Mary and Bartholomew Cairns, 13 St. Luke's Grove.
If I find any more I will let you know
Sandgrounder
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All fascinating stuff - I am particularly interested in the Kerrigan / Kerragan side the lady who I think later became 'Sarah Regan'.
Born in Connaught.
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Hello again runicman,
Connacht/ Connaught is the province in the West of Ireland in which Mayo is one of the counties.
I know you don't think that the Preston family I gave you are yours but Sandgrounders information does indicate that your family were in England in 1851 with the birth of Sarah.
best wishes
heywood
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This bit is very interesting
4 September 1851 Birth
Sarah Regan
Parents James Regan and Sarah Keregan
I have a feeling that this may be on the right track. We thought that Mark Regan was their only child though who later got wed in 1870 to Ellen Wilkinson at St Maries church
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Hello again,
I am posting the 1861 census which I think you will agree is yours. Then I am posting the 1851 which I referred to earlier for you to compare.
1861 RG9; Piece: 2760; Folio: 79; Page: 12
New Ireland, Marshside North Meols district
James Regan head married 50 yrs agricultural labourer b Ireland
Sarah wife 50 yrs washerwoman b Ireland
Mary dughter 21 yrs house servant b Ireland
Mark son 19 yrs ag labourer b Ireland
John Kerrigan son in law married 21 yrs labourer b Ireland
Bridget Kerrigan daughter married 22 yrs housekeeper b Lancashire North Meols
Sarah Regan daughter 10 yrs scholar b Lancashire North Meols
I would imagine that there is an error in Bridget's birthplace in 1861
1851 HO107; Piece: 2267; Folio: 492; Page: 35
with a large group of 'lodgers' in the home of Jane McGrath and daughters
6 Back Vicar Street Preston
James Regan 40 yrs labourer b Ireland
Sally 41 yrs b Ireland
Bridget 14 yrs b Ireland
Mary 12 yrs b Ireland
Mark 10 yrs b Ireland
Patrick 4 yrs b Cheshire Chester
As I said earlier, the ages fit, the children fit with 1851 and 1861 apart from Patrick who presumably has died.
Family Search has an extracted record :
Patrick Regan
birth: 24 Jan 1847
christening: 2 Feb 1847 St Werburgh's Chester
Parents: James Regan and Seragh Kinsay
That is a possibility despite the odd spelling. I thought that a Patrick Regan born Wirral may be him but he dies later that year so I can't spot a birth for a Patrick.
Free BMD has a marriage September 1860 in Preston
Bridget Regan and James Karigan as possible spouses.
best wishes
heywood
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Wondeful date thank you so much - I will ask the family what they think.
We seem to have hit a brickwall with data from Mayo for James as apparently some fire destroyed a lot of Irish records.
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I don't know where your previous message has gone to ???
I got a notification that you had posted but it is not on the thread. Then I saw it by going into your previous postings and replied here but your message still isn't here. :o
Yes it is difficult to get data from Mayo, although there are now some parish records online. That is your problem- not knowing where in Mayo James and Sarah are from and the dates involved. Even Mark's birth is very early for any records which may be there.
I have tried to find Bridget Kerrigan in censuses with no results so even finding the other children, if this is your family, is proving difficult. You'll just have to keep chipping away and hope for the best. ;)
best wishes
heywood
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We are very grateful for your help and the Preston link is most fascinating. you are right about the Mayo thing being hard to trace also as we have been at it for ages. I suppoose its all about knowing where to look AND WE ARE NOT EXPERT AT THIS STUFF. .
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none of us but that's the fun of it! We have to be a bit like sponges absorbing things and hoping that it all makes sense.
I wish you luck- I was fortunate that my dad was the Mayo link so had a place to begin. Even so cannot go much further back. It's a fabulous place to come from though!
If I can help again, please don't hesitate to ask- all rootschatters are good at digging and delving to try to find the smallest clue.
heywood :)
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Will do thanks - you are all stars
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I meant to say - I cannot find any ref to a 'back vicar street 'in Preston as stated earlier.
Maybe the name changed - anyone know??
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from the enumeration district description it looks to have been around Snow Hill/Patten Street/ Lawson Street/High Street area.
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Thanks Heywood - I just couldn't find any trace and mention anywhere.
Maybe its on some old maps ?
"enumeration district" what's that then?
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I'll send you a personal message and try to explain :)
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Searching Little Ireland today, I came across your messages. My great grandfather Edward Allen whose father ran the New Inn at Marshside in 1851 census. I haven't been searching for a while and am not sure of my dates but have the deaths from the St Marie's of the Sands listing book. In any case, James Regan and Sarah were the parents of Sarah Regan b. 1851 who married Edward Allen in 1875 and had Elizabeth in 1877 and Richard Sephton in 1879. The Edward Allen family moved to the US in 1881 and settled in Cleveland Ohio where they died, Sarah Regan Allen in 1909. I think we are definitely family. Bridget, Mary, Martin, Mark, Patrick and Sarah were the siblings in the James Regan family. I would love to hear more from you. I visited Southport in 1998 when I knew only a bit about the family. I can't add much but maybe you can for me. Thanks.
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Hi runicman,
a belated welcome to rootschat. :)
do you have your family in the censuses? I think it's them who are in Preston in 1851 and they have a child Patrick with them who was born in Chester. Is this your family? So they would have arrived in Southport via Preston and Chester.
This would tell you that they arrived sometime between Mary 1841/43 and Patrick 1847. I know it doesn't help with Mayo origins though.
best wishes
heywood
Long time no post. You were 'correct' as our family DID come from Preston. We got the 1851 census and it is them. I checked Cheshire BDMs and discovered that Patrick was born in 1847. I also think he may have died in 1860.