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George Onions married Diana (or Dinnah) Williams
on April 9, 1815 St. Matthew, Walsall Staffordshire.
Is there any way to find out the father's names, witnesses or any additional information from this?
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I very much doubt this information is available online (I'm sure someone will let me know if I'm wrong) . You'd be better off going to the local records office for the area of interest and physically checking the parish register.
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Thank you for your input, Tids54. I wish I could go to the local records office but I live in Canada.
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No problem.....I am off to the very records office you need on 25th so I will check it out for you.
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Sadly, this entry wasn't particularly clear. There were no fathers names available on the entry and although I could clearly see one of the witnesses as John Smith, I could also clearly see that he witnessed the other marriages on that page so I guess he was one of the officers taking part in the administration. However, I am completely sure that the bride's name was Dianah - the two A's in the name were similar to each other but different from the N.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
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Susan
Build your own family..........or attempt to!
www.nzsghamilton.co.nz/england.htm
is an index system of the IGI's ........ it's easy to use and reasonably quick
for example it has GEORGE ONIONS MARRIED DINNAH WILLIAMS 9TH APRIL 1815 ST MATTHEW, WALSALL
it also has........
RICHARD ONIONS MARRIED 1836
PETER ONIONS MARRIED 1819
both at St Matthew's, Walsall.............are all three related?
their is a marriage in 1781 at St Matthews, Walsall of
WILLIAM ONIONS who married HANNAH THORNHILL but their doesn't appear to be any children christianed soon after!..........did they have any? or did they move away when married, have children, only for all/children to return at a later date............take a look around Staffs and see if you can find them?
Bryant
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There are about 40 links on that page.....which link are you suggesting?
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The one that says England IGI batch numbers.............
1841
7 DWELLINGS, KINGSWINFORD, STAFFS
RICHARD ONIONS 20 MINER Y
REBECCA " 20 Y
JOSIAH " 1 Y
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1841
PIG LANE, WALSALL
JOSEPH ONIONS 15 TAILOR Y
MARY " 46 CHARWOMAN Y
SUSANNAH " 11 Y
HARRIETT " 9 Y
PHEBE " 5 Y
CHARLES " 2 Y
SAMUEL " 5 Y
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Bryant
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Susanhs
If building an IGI family doesn't work?
If any other volunteers are going to the record office.........the marriage banns are normally read on three consecutive Sundays prior to the marriage ............ they may/may not reveal parents
Bryant
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Hmmmm.....you'll have to excuse me for not thinking of that.....I've only been doing genealogy for 18 months or so.
Sorry.
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I'm now curious............where are they in 1841
Don't see Dinnah/Dianah/Diana anywhere...........see a few George's but look to be too young? ............ have they died?
Bryant
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Thank you very much, Tids54 for your efforts at the records office and Bryant for all your comments and information!
I have a Diana Onions buried August 25, 1832 at age 36, St.Leonard's, Bilston, Staffordshire.
George and Diana had a daughter Mary born in 1832, Bilston. Died in childbirth?
I don't know what happened to George.
The other children I know of (all born in Bilston):
Sarah b. 1815
Mary Ann b. 1820
William b. 1821
James b. 1824
Anne b. 1826
Regards, Susan
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not sure if this is of any use or not?
living at wolverhampton street,bilston in 1841-
mary onions 55yrs
james 15yrs
ann 15yrs
joseph 12yrs
mary 8yrs
is it possible george remarried??? and then possibly passed away himself before the 1841 cencus?
SOURCE INFO-H0107-1001
FOLIO-12/21
PAGE-35
regards
alli
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Thank you, alli. That does look like the children!! You are probably right that George remarried , then died. I haven't been able to find the marriage or death to confirm this yet.
I found a burial for a George Onions that I think was probably not him. This George Onions was buried August 19, 1832, age 41, at Bilston, Swan Bank Wesleyan Methodist. That was the week before Diana was buried but she was buried at St. Leonards, Bilston.
I suppose Mary may also have been a spinster aunt.
Regards, Susan
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I don't know if you have already found the answer to your queries but George and Diana Onions (both aged 36) are listed among the Bilston Cholera epidemic victims as well as other relatives. The document listing the victims can be found on the Wolverhampton archives webite and contains notes about the relationships among various victims.
Because so many people died in such a short time there doesn't seem to have been any choice of burial site from other records of the time (there is quite a lot on the archive website), burials were a continuous process and had to be done as quickly as possible.
Thank you, alli. That does look like the children!! You are probably right that George remarried , then died. I haven't been able to find the marriage or death to confirm this yet.
I found a burial for a George Onions that I think was probably not him. This George Onions was buried August 19, 1832, age 41, at Bilston, Swan Bank Wesleyan Methodist. That was the week before Diana was buried but she was buried at St. Leonards, Bilston.
I suppose Mary may also have been a spinster aunt.
Regards, Susan
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Hi DudleyWinchurch,
I hadn't found the answer yet of what had happened to George Onions.
Thank you very much for your posting and for solving the mystery!!
Regards, Susan
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Glad to have been of help.
I'm relatively new to all this but had discovered that my G-Grandmother Lucy had had a brother she never knew who had died in the epidemic so I had been reading up on all the articles I came across.
I was just looking for more information on life in Bilston when I came across your posting and it seemed to make sense in the light of the epidemic so I rechecked the victims list and found them. Most of my paternal ancestors seem to have lived in Bilston through most of the 19th Century.
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Is anyone able to reproduce this list of Cholera deaths from the Wolverhampton Archives website? Whenever I try to go there it comes up page not found.
Thanks
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Just checked that I can still get it again. Did you use the leaflets page? The links there don't seem to be working. If you put "Bilston cholera" in the site search facility, the first entry that came up for me was a page with a direct link to the victims list. It is downloadable in PDF format.
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Thank you !
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What's also good to know if you are researching in Bilston is that a lot of Bilston church registers are already on FREEREG.
http://www.freereg.org.uk
Also Wolverhampton, St Peter's Collegiate Church marriage register, where many Bilston marriages took place ande others in Wolverhampton.
Unfortunately don't seem to have Walsall registers yet.
I just found a baptism for Joseph s/o George and Diana on 22/2/1829 which also told me that they lived at Bilston Mill and his father was a roll turner.
Due to the large number of entries I used George Onions on the baptisms search. The search is open about where it finds each part of the name so that limits it to results where the baptised person is called George or the father.
Susan, you are right to be wary about getting the right George though, as searching that way showed me there was also a family in Bilston with George and Mary Onions having babies baptised at about the same time.