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Title: Shropshire Archives visit this week
Post by: rosemaryag on Monday 30 January 06 09:53 GMT (UK)
Hi

going to the Shropshire Archives today & probably tomorrow.... happy to do look ups, but please keep them simple, I am quite new to this archives game ;)

cheers
Rosemary
Title: Re: Shropshire Archives visit this week
Post by: Mumsiep on Monday 30 January 06 13:49 GMT (UK)
Hi Rosemary

Thanks for the offer. I'm looking for the christening of Richard GORING, c1796. 1851 census gives his place of birth as STIRCHLEY, which I think may be covered by Dawley Magna records, but I'm not 100% certain of that. Hope you can find him.

Kind regards

Pauline
 :)
Title: Re: Shropshire Archives visit this week
Post by: AnneMc on Monday 30 January 06 17:11 GMT (UK)
Hello rosemary:
thank you for the kind offer. If you have time could you look up the marriage of this couple for me?   I need to know the name of the groom's father. to confirm that the groom is a brother to my 3xgrgrandfather.  Here is the information from free bmd site


Dec.    1857    Shrewsbury

Charles     Hotchkiss
Charlotte  Downes.



Thank you very much I really appreciate this as I live in Canada.


Cheers
Anne

Title: Re: Shropshire Archives visit this week
Post by: Cher4 on Monday 30 January 06 18:35 GMT (UK)
Hi Rosemary could you lookif you have time for a birth of a Joseph Cooke born 1810 Ellesmere.

Thank you

Cher
Title: Re: Shropshire Archives visit this week
Post by: rosemaryag on Monday 30 January 06 19:41 GMT (UK)
OK, repeat after me 'The Shropshire Archive is not open on a monday'  ::) :-[ ;D

...as I reached the building, it all came rushing back to me. I have managed to do this a couple of times before you know :P ::) ; ::) :P ::)

So, I will be trying to do your various requests later in the week (whilst remembering that they close at 1pm on Thursdays)

Rosemary (who needs a memory booster)
Title: Re: Shropshire Archives visit this week
Post by: JeannieTel on Monday 30 January 06 22:15 GMT (UK)
Good luck with your next visit - I hope you didnt have far to travel!   ;)

When you go to the archives, I would appreciate it if you would look up a marriage for me ie George Easthope and Mary ?  in the Madeley/Broseley/Shifnal area. around 1830 (sorry if this is vague).The inforrmation I have is from the 1851 census ie
George Easthope aged 41, born Madeley
Mary (wife) aged 39 born Broseley.  Their first child Hiram was born in 1830 in Stickley (Sturchley?). 

I have some information from another source which might suggest that George is the son ofRichard Eastop and Elizabeth of Shifnal.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Shropshire Archives visit this week
Post by: rosemaryag on Monday 30 January 06 23:58 GMT (UK)
When you go to the archives, I would appreciate it if you would look up a marriage for me ie George Easthope and Mary ?  in the Madeley/Broseley/Shifnal area. around 1830 (sorry if this is vague).The inforrmation I have is from the 1851 census ie
George Easthope aged 41, born Madeley
Mary (wife) aged 39 born Broseley.  Their first child Hiram was born in 1830 in Stickley (Sturchley?). 

hey JeannieTel - been trying to get more info on this to make the best use of my time at the archives - when i finally make it there ;)

I take it you are interested in the couple + umpteen kids in Dudley 1851:
HO107/2032 folio 508 p33 address New Dock
George Easthope, head, 42, furnace labourer, b. Madely
Mary, wife, 39, b. Broseley
with eldest son listed as
Hiram, son, 21, furnace labourer, b. Shi?ley, Shrops

I found these in 1861 census still in Dudley:
RG9/2057 folio 83 p10 address Waterloo Street, New Dock
Mary Easthope, head, widow, 46, b. salop, Brosely
with many kids matching to 1851

& Hiram as: RG9/2057 folio 82 p8 address Waterloo Street, New Dock
Isaac Hiram Easthope, head, 30, iron furnace labourer, b. Madely
+wife & 3 kids

so - my plan is to start by looking for the marriage of George Easthope & Mary in Broseley & Madeley (which were only about 2 miles apart) around 1830 - & including the birth of Hiram in that ;)

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I have some information from another source which might suggest that George is the son of Richard Eastop and Elizabeth of Shifnal.

Is your other source the IGI from familysearch.org - which has a George Easthope born in Shifnal 5 Dec 1810 to Richard & Elizabeth Easthope?

Whilst searching for 1851 & 1861 census entries I noted that there is a George Easthope born c1810 Shifnal who is an unmarried servant in Ross, Herefordshire in both 51 & 61

... he looks a better fit with the IGI info than the Geo Easthope living in Dudley in 1851.... what do you think?

Anyhoo - I shall concentrate on the c1830 marriage of George Easthope to Mary with child Hiram for now ;D :D ;D

Rosemary
Title: Re: Shropshire Archives visit this week
Post by: JeannieTel on Tuesday 31 January 06 17:11 GMT (UK)
Yes, these are the fruitful two that I am interested in!  I contacted someone else who was looking at the Easthope family (seems it was another branch tho') and was given the Shifnal George info.  I am not 100% about it though hence my request to you to look for George and Mary's marriage. 
Incidentally the family I know now have been catholic for as long as they can remember - I dont know if this might have a bearing on which records you look at.

Thank you



 

Title: Re: Shropshire Archives visit this week
Post by: rosemaryag on Tuesday 31 January 06 22:16 GMT (UK)
OK, I managed to visit today ;D

AnneMc - no news for you today - I didn't get to your request - next time I go though ;)

JeannieTel - getting complicated, so will cover in a separate post ::)

Cher4 - good news!
Ellesmere PR Year 1810 page 246 Joseph son of William + Mary Cooke [of] ?Jet-?chill-moor was born January 25th and christened July 1st 1810

Pauline - not sure  ;) Stirchley has a church, so I checked these PRs first, covering 1791 to 1803. The only possible was the Goram family - could it have become Goring - as follows:

1791 Decem 1[0/8]   Ann the daughter of Thomas Goram by Eleanor his wife was baptised
1796 May 22  Richard, the son of Thomas Gor?n by Eleanor his wife was baptised
1799 Mar 24  Thomas son of Thomas Go?am by Eleanor his wife was baptised

I have started looking at Dawley Magna records (1794-98) but parts of these are v. difficult to read.... no Richard Gorings so far though.


I had fun - so happy to look some more if you have follow-up requests ;D ;D ;D

Rosemary


Title: Re: Shropshire Archives visit this week
Post by: rosemaryag on Tuesday 31 January 06 22:40 GMT (UK)
OK JeannieTel, deep breath :o

In the Stirchley PRs I found the following baptisms:
May 10 1829 Isaac Hiram son of George & Adah Easthope of Stirchley, Brick-maker
March 20 1831 George son of George & Ada Easthope of Stirchley, Brick maker
March 19 1835 Ann dt of George & Mary Easthope of Stirchley, Brick maker

Note the mother's name change! So I looked for & found the burial of Adah in Stirchley PRs:
January 7 1834 Adah ?Lois? Easthope of Stirchley age 28.

However - I have not been able to find any marriage records - for either of George's marriages  :(

I have checked for George Easthope's marriage in the following places with no joy:
Stirchley Marriages 1820-37 & Banns 1823-36
Madeley (George's birth parish?) Marriages 1825-30 & 1834-37
Broseley (Mary's birth parish?) 1834-35 and typed index 1813-37
& of course, don't know Adah's birth parish :(

Not sure what to do next - any thoughts?  ;D :o ::) :P ;D

On George Easthope's baptism... I've started looking in the Madeley PRs - 1809-11 checked so far with no joy... but note that the writing is very faint in places, so will repay a closer check.

So... interesting info & some added complications... that's the fun of family history. I did have a thought re George's marriage to Mary - given the absence of Banns at Stirchley (surely George's parish, even if not Mary's) maybe he married by licence

what do you think - take your time & we can try to think where to look next  ::)

cheers
Rosemary


Title: Re: Shropshire Archives visit this week
Post by: JeannieTel on Wednesday 01 February 06 16:45 GMT (UK)
thank you so much for taking the time to check this for me. 

So, two Mrs. Easthopes eh?  I wasnt expecting that.

I will have a ponder and get back if I think of any other avenues.

thank you again

Title: Re: Shropshire Archives visit this week
Post by: Cher4 on Wednesday 01 February 06 20:13 GMT (UK)
Thank you Rosemary i am certain this is my families Joseph Cooke and it confirms what was on the IGI. The place could be i think Tetchill More as i am sure i have seen it somewhere along my research.

thanks once again i just need to find Josephs marriage now.


Cher
Title: Re: Shropshire Archives visit this week
Post by: garstonite on Sunday 30 July 06 09:32 BST (UK)
hi rosemary..could you possibly find out the mother and father of thomas adams born 1806 astley shropshire...if you could possibly view his birth certificate..  its very kind of you to offer...my family are from astley back to 1570..presumably you aren`t far from astley...would you happen to know whether middle/myddle comes under astley church parish...the reason i ask is that thomas is down in 1 census as born in middle...as another in astley....all the family came from astley,so it puzzles me...regards...allan
Title: Re: Shropshire Archives visit this week
Post by: pete edwards on Sunday 30 July 06 14:58 BST (UK)
Hi Fiftyfive, :)

All in Astley,

Astley Parish Registers.

 19 Sep 1748 William, s. of Richard Adams and Anne bap.
 15 Apr 1750 Richard, s. of Richard Adams and Anne bap.
 03 Feb 1754 Edward, s. of Richard Adams and Anne bap.
 12 Dec 1756 Jane, d. of Richard Adams and Anne bap.
 12 Nov 1757 Jane, d. of Richard Adams and Anne bap.
The Revd. Mr. Samuel Betton dyed, and James Atcherley succeeded him in this Curacy of Astley, being nominated thereunto by Henry Adams, Esq., Mayor of Shrewsbury, and the Revd. Mr. Charles Newling, Chief Schoolmaster.
 12 Nov 1776 Richard and Thomas, sons of William Adams bap.
 18 Nov 1776 Thomas Adams (Infant) bur.
 05 Feb 1778 Richard Adams bur.
 11 May 1788 Edward, s. of William Adams and Ann bap.
07 Apr 1799 Anne Adams bur.
 14 Aug 1803 Thomas, s. of Richard Adams and Rebecca bap.
 05 Aug 1804 Samuel, s. of Richard Adams and Rebecca bap.
 23 Mar 1806 Richard, s. of Richard Adams and Rebecca bap.
 31 Jan 1808 John, s. of Richard Adams and Rebecca bap.
 06 Aug 1809 Ann, d. of William Adams and Martha bap.
 12 Nov 1809 William, s. of Rchard Adams and Rebecca bap.
 03 Apr 1811 Jane, d. of Richard Adams and Rebecca bap.
 29 Nov 1811 William and Edward, twin sons of William Adams and Martha bap.
15 Nov 1812 Joseph, s. of Richard Adams and Rebecca bap.
Mrs. Vavasour and Mr. William Adams.
Mr. Buckley Hatchatt and Mr. Willm. Adams, senr.
 1811-12 James Matthews, officiating minister of Astley Richard Minton, William Adams.

Hope this may help,

All the best,
Pete. :)
Title: Re: Shropshire Archives visit this week
Post by: garstonite on Sunday 30 July 06 18:58 BST (UK)
many thanks peter...i am having a problem regarding thomas adams born 1806 astley...he is not on the list you have just given me.....the g.g.grandson of john adams 1860 astley has already given me the same names last week....thomas 1806 is on 2 census,but not on that list....he is on 1 census b astley ..on another as new marton middle...can you help me find thomas`s parents so that i can tie him into all the adams you have just sent ....thanks very much...regards...allan