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Title: 1841/1851 lookup for BECK family please
Post by: docwatto on Thursday 26 January 06 22:14 GMT (UK)
I'm looking for the family of Edward Beck, most likely in the Isleworth area on either the 1841 or 1851 censuses.

The information that I have is that Edward married Sussanah Lucas in 1838.  They had several children:
Walter b 1840 Isleworth
Roger b 1841
George b 1842
Marcus b 1843
Ellen b 1845
Edith b 1847
John Lister b 1849
Thomas Barton b1851

Susannah was born c1809 in Hitchin Hertfordshire.

I am told that Edward died about 1851, so he may not appear on the 1851 census.

Edward ran a business called Beck's wharfe in Isleworth.

Many thanks for looking

Derrick
Title: Re: 1841/1851 lookup for BECK family please
Post by: Karen Shaw on Sunday 29 January 06 19:15 GMT (UK)
I've had a look at the 1851 for you but I can't find them.  I've tried Peck, Perk, Burk etc to see if the name has been mistranscribed with no luck.

Sorry I couldn't help.

Karen :)
Title: Re: 1841/1851 lookup for BECK family please
Post by: docwatto on Wednesday 08 February 06 19:36 GMT (UK)
Karen

Thanks very much for looking. 

Maybe someone will turn them up in the '41 census.  I'm trying to trace them back to find if there is a link between them and my branch of the Beck family - my great aunt believed that there was, but unfortunately never had any details.

Derrick
Title: Re: 1841/1851 lookup for BECK family please
Post by: Caro88 on Saturday 22 February 25 18:00 GMT (UK)
Hi Derrick,
My colleague and I are currently writing a book/pamphlet on the sisters, Edith and Ellen. From what we can figure out, none of the siblings had any children but they did stay close to extended family. When Susannah died (not long before Marcus) the family appear to leave Isleworth. Let me know if you'd like to know more. Would be interested to hear your angle on the family.

Best wishes
Caroline
Title: Re: 1841/1851 lookup for BECK family please
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 22 February 25 18:26 GMT (UK)
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I am told that Edward died about 1851, so he may not appear on the 1851 census.

There is one age 58 dies Mar 1850 Saint Martin in the Fields

Possibly a little early if a child was born in 1851 **

** Thomas Barton Beck was born Dec 1850

Title: Re: 1841/1851 lookup for BECK family please
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 22 February 25 18:34 GMT (UK)
Is this not them in 1851 but Edward is still alive
As transcribed
Edward Beck 47
Susanna 42 born Hitchin Herts
Edward 17
Walter 11
Roger 10
George 8
Marcus 7
Ellen 5
Edith 4
John Lister 2
Thomas Baston 1
William Lucas 19 nephew
Henry Lucas 17 visitor
plus 4 other female visitors

Title: Re: 1841/1851 lookup for BECK family please
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 22 February 25 18:40 GMT (UK)
Edward died Mar 1861 age 57

15 Jan to be exact and left a will.  Nephews William Beck and William Lucas are mentioned on the probate entry.
Title: Re: 1841/1851 lookup for BECK family please
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 22 February 25 18:45 GMT (UK)
1841

Edward Beck 35
Susanna 30
Edward 7
Walter 2
Roger 3 months

Hope the census info helps
Title: Re: 1841/1851 lookup for BECK family please
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 22 February 25 18:57 GMT (UK)
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From what we can figure out, none of the siblings had any children but they did stay close to extended family.

That's unusual isn't it with all those children. 

The only one I can't account for is the George age 8 in 1851.  He isn't with the family in 1861 so may have died or left home.
Title: Re: 1841/1851 lookup for BECK family please
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 22 February 25 19:03 GMT (UK)
There's a George Beck age 18 in 1861 born Hackney who is in Chatham Royal Marine Barracks but is that the same person.

Age 23 a groom in 1866 in Wandsworth prison.

Death in Hackney in 1885 age 42 but not clear if these are the same person/your George.
Title: Re: 1841/1851 lookup for BECK family please
Post by: Caro88 on Saturday 22 February 25 19:46 GMT (UK)
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From what we can figure out, none of the siblings had any children but they did stay close to extended family.

That's unusual isn't it with all those children. 

Really unusual - I think George married a Caroline Lucy Jackson, daughter of Rev Thomas Jackson (Wesleyan) and died in 1917. I don't think they had children but the Beck sisters gave money in their will to the nieces and nephews of George and Caroline.

The only one I can't account for is the George age 8 in 1851.  He isn't with the family in 1861 so may have died or left home.
Title: Re: 1841/1851 lookup for BECK family please
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 22 February 25 21:24 GMT (UK)
I didn’t realise the original query was posted so long ago but hope it will be seen so we can help further.

Birthplace for Edward Beck is Dover Kent on the 1851 census.

I was thinking Edward age 7 in 1841 must be from a previous marriage and there is one to a Jane Morris in 1832 who died in 1834 so she could be his mother then he married Susanna.

If Edwards seniors origins are required then his father on that marriage is Thomas Barton Beck.
The 1838 marriage to Susanna should confirm if he was a widower and has the same father’s name.

What is it you are writing about the two sisters? 
Title: Re: 1841/1851 lookup for BECK family please
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 22 February 25 21:58 GMT (UK)
Not finding Caroline and George at all  :-\. 

I can see her death but not his or a marriage for them or see them together on any census.
Title: Re: 1841/1851 lookup for BECK family please
Post by: Caro88 on Sunday 23 February 25 21:06 GMT (UK)
Yes, that's the father and son from first marriage. Jane died less than a month after Edward was born. There's a really useful Beck family tree (of sorts) at pennyghael.org/Beck.pdf

The sisters were Suffragettes who were quite renowned local figures in our village. Trying to give them the acknowledgement they deserve!