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Title: Is anyone researching Orwins?
Post by: JosiahS on Wednesday 25 January 06 14:08 GMT (UK)
One of my ancestors John Orwin married and Ann Carr in Earsdon, Northumberland in 1768.  They seem to have one child Elizabeth there and then move to Sunderland where they had a number of other children, Wilson, John. Mary, and Isabella.

Now Orwin is unusual enough but Wilson Orwin is even rarer (he's my GGG grandfather and my father's first two names are Wilson Orwin too), but there seems to be another family producing Wilson Orwins up near Lanchester.

I also noticed that nicely placed between the births of the 5 children above, there are also two more children born to  John and an Ann Orwin in one in Chester-le-Street and one in Lanchester.

Is anyone else researching this family?  The unusual nature of the name Wilson Orwin persuades me there may be a link and I'd love to find it if there is.

Thanks

Jos
Title: Re: Is anyone researching Orwins?
Post by: behindthefrogs on Wednesday 25 January 06 15:10 GMT (UK)
According to the surname interest table no-one is researching Orwin not even you!

Can you message me please about your Saunders interest
Title: Re: Is anyone researching Orwins?
Post by: feinstein48 on Friday 17 February 06 17:50 GMT (UK)
Hi Jos,
My GGGrandfather was Abraham Orwin, he was born around 1840 or a couple of years earlier in Usworth. I haven't been able to pin down his exact birthdate.
He married Mary Stewart sometime in the 1860s. In 1881 the family was living in Gateshead. In 1901 they were at Marley Hill, Whickham.
They are not the easiest family to trace because the surname is not always spelled the same way on census declarations etc.
As a matter of interest, the above named Abraham was incarcerated in Durham Gaol when the 1861 census was taken, I'd love to know why.
                           regards
                                       Pete
Title: Re: Is anyone researching Orwins?
Post by: JosiahS on Monday 20 February 06 22:19 GMT (UK)
Hey Pete

Thank goodness I thought I was the only one!

I agree Orwin is difficult - I've found Orrins and Urwins as well so far!

The name is quite rare so I think the NE ones may link up.  I don't have any Abrahams yet but let's stay in touch and see if it turns out to be the same family.  The key forename in my family is Wilson.

Cheers

Jos
Title: Re: Is anyone researching Orwins?
Post by: feinstein48 on Monday 12 June 06 10:09 BST (UK)
Hi Jos,
Ive replied this way to remind you of the original post. As I said Abraham's father was George, but I don't have any further info, except I guess he was born 1810 to 1820. Abraham's details are also difficult because his age and birthplace seems to vary on different census declarations. He was born 1837 to 1840 in either Usworth or Gateshead. Any possible links to George would be gratefully received.
                regards
                            Pete
Title: Re: Is anyone researching Orwins?
Post by: JosiahS on Monday 12 June 06 16:52 BST (UK)
Hi Pete

Thanks for doing that it helped a lot.

After some digging I've just found Abraham aged 2  in the 1841 census with the surname Irwin and a lot of family including his father George who was marked as born in 1796 (i.e. between 1792 and 1796) in Co Durham.

That puts George outside of the dates of my candidates but there may still be a link.

I also found Abraham in the 1861 called Urwin as a prisoner with his brother Robert in Willington Co Durham so congratulations I think you've got a black sheep (I'm still looking for mine so I'm very envious!)

I'll keep hunting round and get back to you

Cheers

Ashley
Title: Re: Is anyone researching Orwins?
Post by: feinstein48 on Tuesday 13 June 06 08:59 BST (UK)
Thanks again, did you happen to notice where the family was living in 1841 and George's wife's Christian name?
                                Pete
Title: Re: Is anyone researching Orwins?
Post by: JosiahS on Tuesday 13 June 06 14:16 BST (UK)
Hi Pete

I can't read the address but it is in Gateshead Fell.

His wife is Elizabeth who is 45-ish, kids are:
William 19
Valentine 16
George 14
Elizabeth 12
John 10
Robert 9
Jane 5
Abraham 2

Big George is a Collier


I just found the family in the 1851 spelled Urwin.  Elizabeth is now head and marked as being born in 1797 in Usworth Co. Durham.  She is a widow.

Let me know if I can check anything else for you.

Cheers

Ashley
Title: Re: Is anyone researching Orwins?
Post by: feinstein48 on Wednesday 14 June 06 08:45 BST (UK)
That's great, once again many thanks.
                        Pete

                     
Title: Re: Is anyone researching Orwins?
Post by: IanO on Sunday 25 June 06 17:03 BST (UK)
Hi,
Just registered to RootsChat

I have a large amount of data on the ORWIN family from Durham.

Ian
Title: Re: Is anyone researching Orwins?
Post by: womud on Tuesday 17 October 06 06:55 BST (UK)
I was just wondering if anyone has any information on my Orwin
She is Mary Orwin and she married Benjamin Golightly on the 16 July 1811 at St Hilda's South Shields.  If anyone has any information I would be greatly appreciative as I seem to have come to a road block on this line.
Thanks
Denise
Title: Re: Is anyone researching Orwins?
Post by: 2zpool on Tuesday 17 October 06 15:48 BST (UK)
Washington Holy Trinity (covers Usworth)  parish record transcript

Abraham Urwin baptised 9 June 1839 s/o George and Elizabeth

Other children to George and Elizabeth in the parish record:

Elizabeth  12 April 1829
George  26 Nov 1826
Isabella  37 Oct 1816
Jane  20 Sept 1835
John 26 June 1831
Robert  3 March 1833
Valentine  12 Sept 1824
William  31 March 1832

Janis
Title: Re: Is anyone researching Orwins?
Post by: janecree on Wednesday 01 August 07 23:44 BST (UK)
Hi there

I realise this is an old post but wondered if you'd come across Wilson James Orwin born 1845 in Newcastle and married Jane Watson James and had 6 children - all girls?  Wilson James was the son of Thomas Orwin and Elizabeth Peacock.

Many of the off Orwin names came from the fact that they put surnames as middle names passing down the generations hence I also have in my tree a William Peacock Orwin, his middle name comign from his grandmothers maiden name.

Any information gratefully received.

Jane
Title: Re: Is anyone researching Orwins?
Post by: JosiahS on Sunday 05 August 07 18:51 BST (UK)
Hi Jane

Many thanks for that - I have noticed the Wilson Orwins in Newcastle and I am sure there must be some sort of link - it is an unusual combination of names.

I also recently found a Wilson ORwin dying in Lanchester in the late 1700s - maybe there is a connection there too.

Ashley
Title: Re: Is anyone researching Orwins?
Post by: berrima on Sunday 11 November 07 07:47 GMT (UK)
James Orwin, born 1879, son of William and Frances Orwin of Gateshead came to Australia with his wife Agnes (nee Wilson) in around 1910. I am looking for any descendants of James and Agnes or the Wilson family of Birtley, Durham in regard to a World War I research project.
Hope someone out there can help.
Thanks
Linda
Title: Re: Is anyone researching Orwins?
Post by: janecree on Sunday 11 November 07 09:22 GMT (UK)
Hi there

This is definately the same Orwin tree as mine, I don't have any descendent information though for James but can send you all the information I have on the parents and some of the other siblings.

Jane
Title: Re: Is anyone researching Orwins?
Post by: berrima on Sunday 11 November 07 09:43 GMT (UK)
Thanks Jane,
Any information about James' family would be great.  I am working on a few leads here in Australia, so will send you anything I find.
Thanks for such a prompt reply
Linda
Title: Re: Is anyone researching Orwins?
Post by: IanO on Thursday 16 October 08 22:54 BST (UK)
So far i canlink in with the info provided by JoshuaS and the Golightly post

Ian
Title: Re: Is anyone researching Orwins?
Post by: JosiahS on Friday 17 October 08 09:45 BST (UK)
Hi Ian

Since last we corresponded I have had a chance to go through the Earsdon records in more detail, and I found more children for John and Ann:

John c. 29 Oct 1769
William c. 10 Oct 1773

I have also found the death of Ralph Mordey Orwin at Sunderland Holy Trinity on 18 Jul 1816.

All the best

Ashley
Title: Re: Is anyone researching Orwins?
Post by: womud on Wednesday 29 October 08 07:10 GMT (UK)
hi Ian you said you can link the orwins and the golightlys.  HOw do they link in.
thanks
Denise
Title: Re: Is anyone researching Orwins?
Post by: JosiahS on Wednesday 29 October 08 09:44 GMT (UK)
Hi Denise

I can help you with that one.

Benjamin Golightly married Mary Orwin 17 Jun 1811 at South Shields St Hilda.

Mary was the daughter of John Orwin and Ann Hall born 22 Jul 1790 in Sunderland

Ashley
Title: Re: Is anyone researching Orwins?
Post by: NCOrwin on Friday 31 October 08 23:35 GMT (UK)
Jane,

I have just come across your post and have information on the Orwin/Peacock family as it is mine! I have details back to 14 June 1812 when John Orwin (born 1786) married Dorothy Delap in Newcastle upon Tyne alongside his brother Michael (born 1791) who married Isabella Heath. I am a direct descendant of John Orwin and I am in touch with a direct descendant of Michael who lives in Australia. Let me know if you would like more info. You can email me direct if you wish (see profile).

Best regards,

Nicola Bullough (née Orwin)

Hi there

I realise this is an old post but wondered if you'd come across Wilson James Orwin born 1845 in Newcastle and married Jane Watson James and had 6 children - all girls?  Wilson James was the son of Thomas Orwin and Elizabeth Peacock.

Many of the off Orwin names came from the fact that they put surnames as middle names passing down the generations hence I also have in my tree a William Peacock Orwin, his middle name comign from his grandmothers maiden name.

Any information gratefully received.

Jane

Title: Re: Is anyone researching Orwins?
Post by: IanO on Friday 20 August 10 14:38 BST (UK)
Hello everyone,

just thought I'd bump this posy again to see of anyone has any new info on the ORWIN line

Ian