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Title: Mackin Family
Post by: Corky44 on Tuesday 24 January 06 21:05 GMT (UK)
I am trying to find information on my great grandfather, Terence Mackin.  The family were from Mackins Hill in Cullyhanna or Cullynanna which I have been told is in County Armagh.  My great grandfather would have been born in 1857 approx.  He moved to England but I believe the rest of his family stayed in Ireland.  The family home was a farm in Mackins Hill. If anyone has any information I would be grateful if you could pass it on.
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Tuesday 15 May 07 08:17 BST (UK)
Useing Google I found entries on Creggan, and listed under 1970 were several Mackins, ie they may well farm the same place nowdays, I quickly checked BT telephone directory, but didnt find any listingsBest of luck, Jim
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: maryderry on Tuesday 15 May 07 15:31 BST (UK)
found one,TERENCE MACKIN 12-5-1865. BIRTHPLACE 488,CROSSMAGLEN, ARMAGH, IRE. PARENTS PATRICK MACKIN & MARY GARVEY. CIVIL REG.

                                REGARDS MARY.
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: Christopher on Tuesday 15 May 07 20:01 BST (UK)
 Can anyone help with Mackins please?  (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,181702.msg1245712.html#msg1245712) Yes ... several of us are doing our best :D This link relates to decco's search for James (born in Ireland in 1868) 

The link to  Mackins Farm  (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=191317.new#new) may help as there are replies being posted there. Jim, do you know if any of the archives hold a collection of old phone directories in the same way that they have old street directories?
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Tuesday 15 May 07 21:21 BST (UK)
Christopher,  the only telephone Directory  I am aware of as of today is from www.lennonwylie.co.uk/index.htm
and is the 1913 Telephone Directory - Belfast, Cork, Dublin, so there are lots to be found. A good leader for your Dublin convention, Jim


Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: Christopher on Tuesday 15 May 07 21:33 BST (UK)
Christopher,  the only telephone Directory  I am aware of as of today is from www.lennonwylie.co.uk/index.htm
and is the 1913 Telephone Directory - Belfast, Cork, Dublin, so there are lots to be found. A good leader for your Dublin convention, Jim


Hi Jim,

I was thinking more along the lines of a collection of old telephone directories at PRONI,  the Irish and Local studies sections of the Library boards and the LDS Family History Centre on the Holywood Road, Belfast. I doubt there's a full collection online but unless families are ex-directory the phone books would be another great way to trace them.

Chris
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: Corky44 on Sunday 14 December 08 17:55 GMT (UK)
Thanks to everyone who has tried to help with my search.  I have just spoken to an aunt who informed me that Terence Mackin, born in 1857 was the son of a Mary Connolly.  Terence was a seaman, occupation listed as stoker.  Any ideas where I can  find any further  information on this family?  The family home was listed as Mackins Farm, Mackins Hill in Cullyhanna, but it appears that there were several Mackins families all living in this location in the late 1800's and early 1900's.  I seem to keep hitting a brick wall, any help much appreciated. Picture is of Maggie Mackin, born in 1891
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: kingskerswell on Sunday 14 December 08 18:54 GMT (UK)
I have found a will on tne PRONI website of Terence Mackin of Dorsey, Armagh, Farmer. Letters of Administration were granted to Patrick Mackin, son, farmer of Dorsey. Unfortunately I am not familiar with Armagh townlands but I'll bet someone else is.

Regards
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: kingskerswell on Sunday 14 December 08 19:00 GMT (UK)
PS death was 12 May 1890
Regards
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: TF13 on Sunday 14 December 08 22:13 GMT (UK)
hi,

cullyhanna is a small village in south armagh,it is part of creggan parish. there are also two townlands called cullyhanna big and cullyhanna little.the townland that kingskerswell mentioned is also part of creggan.

i have a feeling that mackin's hill would be a local term that you wont find on any map but also think you might find the answer with the creggan history society;

http://www.cregganhistory.co.uk/

did you ever contact them to find out if they knew mackin's hill? i'm only just noticing that there are a couple of threads about the mackins from cullyhanna so i'm probably just repeating what you have already been told.

tony



Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: paulmckeown on Saturday 15 January 11 21:35 GMT (UK)
Hi I am searching for Peter Mc Keown my great great grandfather listed as husbands father at my great grandfathers wedding in in 1902 witness is a stephen mackin.  He was from Dorsey sometimes spelt dorsy nr cullyhanna in creggan parish in cullyhanna little.  Mckeown drifts around in spelling to mckeon and mckeowne but aware that sometimes it can be written mackin as well, going on this the mckeowns of late 1800's arround dorsey do not appear at all in 1864 griffiths but suddenly there are mackins with the same first names... possible coincidence???? or ???

Moderator's Note- spearate thread on McKeowns if you can help with more details-
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,507365.msg3639042.html
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: lincee on Sunday 10 February 13 07:08 GMT (UK)
Hello There - I have a Mary Mackin (plus various spellings of surname) who married Thomas Carroll in about 1837 Ireland.  Thomas was aged about 19 when he married Mary.  When Thomas Carroll died in Gundagai, New South Wales Australia in 1878 he was aged 60 years and had been in New South Wales for about 36 years.  Unfortunately I have not been able to confirm Mary's death to date and when Thomas and Mary and possible children born in Ireland arrived in Australia.  Children born in New South Wales were Thomas born 1845 (died 1862), Edmund/Edward born 1849, Patrick born 1852, Mary C born 1855.  There was also a son James (no birth found in New South Wales) living and one unknown female living at the time of Thomas Carroll's death.  Two  sons and two daughters were also deceased at the time of Thomas's death.  Unfortunatley this is very sketchy information but would appreciate any assistance.

Kind regards
Lincee
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: AndyMcElroy on Sunday 10 February 13 12:30 GMT (UK)
Hi Corky44,

There is a Stevenson Mackin who was convicted at Armagh Assizes in 1835 for Larceny. There is also a John Mackin (probably Muckian) who was convicted at Armagh Assizes in 1835 for Rape.

This is the link to view the records: http://lurgan-ancestry.co.uk/index.php/convicts-released-from-armagh-countygaol-1835-1839/

Regards,
Andy.
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: AndyMcElroy on Monday 11 February 13 21:21 GMT (UK)
Hi Corky,

There is a Thomas Mackin and Bernard Mackin listed as School Teachers in Newtownhamilton, Co. Armagh, in 1864.

A Joseph Mackin is also listed as a teacher in Carrickrovaddy School (Newtownhamilton).

I have not published the document yet so unfortunately I cannot send you any links.
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: mackers on Monday 03 October 16 18:17 BST (UK)
Hi First the name I'm getting is spelt Macken. Maggie Macken born 8-10-1891 father James (a farmer) mother Bridget Macken nee Quinn. As stated Dorsey is in Cullyhanna. Hope this helps.

Mackers
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: Nugil on Saturday 08 October 16 10:43 BST (UK)
Hello - Would anyone know of the Mackin family who lived in Tandragee, NI? An Annie Mackin who married into the Nugent family
Thank you
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 09 October 16 13:19 BST (UK)
Hello - Would anyone know of the Mackin family who lived in Tandragee, NI? An Annie Mackin who married into the Nugent family
Thank you

Dates?
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: Nugil on Sunday 09 October 16 20:03 BST (UK)
Dates would be...Annie Mackin born 2 May 1879. Passed away 1907.  She married Charles Francis Nugent Sept 1890
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 09 October 16 20:32 BST (UK)
Dates would be...Annie Mackin born 2 May 1879. Passed away 1907.  She married Charles Francis Nugent Sept 1890

Does marriage certificate not give name and occupation of her father? would either witness be connected to her?
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: Nugil on Sunday 09 October 16 23:16 BST (UK)
I haven't been able to get hold of the marriage certificate to be able to see. All I have to go on is from Internet info, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 09 October 16 23:24 BST (UK)
You'll need to view the marriage details to try and trace further back but dates seem a bit strange-
Dates would be...Annie Mackin born 2 May 1879. Passed away 1907.  She married Charles Francis Nugent Sept 1890

If she was born 1879 then she would only have been 11 in 1890 so too young to get married.
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: Nugil on Sunday 09 October 16 23:35 BST (UK)
You're quite correct :)  The marriage was in 1896
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 09 October 16 23:41 BST (UK)
Here's the marriage- unfortunately difficult to read-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/7f03b07474128
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: Nugil on Sunday 09 October 16 23:49 BST (UK)
That's the 1st time I've seen that! Thank you. Yes, so sad it's so difficult to read but maybe I can get a copy from a records office and they may have clearer writing? Thank you, again
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: Sinann on Monday 10 October 16 00:26 BST (UK)
Is this her death in 1907
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1907/05516/4545867.pdf
The age could be incorrect often is on death Certs or she could be a little older than you thought.
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: Nugil on Tuesday 11 October 16 09:44 BST (UK)
I've had a look at the certificate. I know of an Annie Nugent who has been on a census (1901).
I know for definite that Annie Mackin married Charles Nugent 1896. I know that this Annie (Mackin) Nugent died before the 1911 census...I have been told a date of 1906ish...therefore have wondered if the 1907 Annie Nugent was her? I can't find any other record.
I'm sure that Annie Mackin's husband, Charles, was born 1875.
Any advice/assistance would be appreciated :-)
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 11 October 16 10:30 BST (UK)
Daughter Mary Nugent born 19 Oct.1906 Tandragee- image #1:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/c580652763896
1911 with Charles' mother?
   www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Tanderagee_Urban/Emersons_Entry/332563

son Thomas born 18 Sept.1903-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/0ab6f93073092
? www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Tanderagee_Urban/Market_Street/332649

Daughter Annie born 24 Aug.1902-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/9ba9a03494475
? www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Tanderagee_Urban/Montague_Street/332758
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 11 October 16 10:40 BST (UK)
A Charles Nugent died 1910- widow Annie
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1910/05438/4521070.pdf

Charles Nugent, son of Charles, married 1908 Annie Hagney-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/e30f697184256

Annie Nugent (2nd wife) in 1911?
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Tanderagee_Urban/Gilford_Street/332573

Found more on Nugent family but not sure if it's of interest
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 11 October 16 20:36 BST (UK)
Charles Nugent (c1841-1906) m. Eliza Gilpin (c1838-1916)
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Tandragee_Urban/Ballymore/1021190
Death: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/8d7d2510896607
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Tanderagee_Urban/Emersons_Entry/332563
Death: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/5c12619997274
1. Charles Nugent (1875-1910) m.(1896) Anne Mackin (d.1907), m.(1908) Annie Hagney
     birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/4382335519485
2. Margaret Nugent
     ? www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Drumcree/Derrymacfall/1031364
     ? death (1907): https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/30636d10769272

3. Thomas Nugent m. Ellen Toal
     www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Tanderagee_Urban/Montague_Street/332758
4. Ellen Nugent (1872) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPBK-2VD
5. Elizabeth/Lizzie Nugent (c1859) m.(1887) James Campbell- family
     marriage: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/73b1287702370 
     www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Tandragee_Urban/Emerson_s_Entry/1021236
     www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Tanderagee_Urban/Market_Street/332649
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: Nugil on Tuesday 11 October 16 23:07 BST (UK)
Hello - yet again there was some information I hadn't seen evidence of, thank you.
Looking back on my records I would stand by the information that Charles's 2nd wife was an Annie Burns who had a sister, Margaret Burns and their mother was a Bridget Burns (living in Tandragee the early 1920's). I see the record of Annie Hagney and the year of 1908 would fit, but I can't piece together Hagney and Burns?
I see, too, a Margaret Nugent...I need to look into that too, as I can't think of her straight away.
The record of the Campbells is interesting too...their witnesses (Cassidy is another name that pops up in my family tree)
My little mysteries, then, are Annie Hagney/Annie Burns???
Also, I would like your opinion of the following - James Campbell and Lizzie Nugent...would they be the ones from Kilmore? If so, who is Lizzie Nugent's father, Charles Nugent and mother Eliza McClean? The 1911 census says 7 yr old Thomas Nugent is a nephew to the Head of the House. Going by the family name of Nugent, the connection must be through Lizzie. But her parents would be expected to be Charles Nugent and Eliza Gilpin?
Thanks so much for the insight into certificates/records
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: Sinann on Tuesday 11 October 16 23:34 BST (UK)
I haven't been fully following this thread, but just wanted to say Nephews are often grandchildren. I've come across this several times. Something to keep in mind as possible.
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 11 October 16 23:54 BST (UK)
LDS list a few children of Charles Nugent & Eliza McClean-
Anna (1867 Tandragee) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F5H8-NNY
Mary (1870 Tandragee) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F535-8VJ

It's possible that Eliza Gilpin and Eliza McClean are the same person but I haven't checked all Nugent vital records for Banbridge district to see if that could be the case.

Charles Nugent's 2nd wife Annie could have had a sister/half-sister/step-sister called Margaret Burns but you'd need to go through more certificates that are online to see if you can make that connection.

There's no doubt that Lizzie Campbell's maiden name was Nugent- details of marriage posted earlier. Also, I think Elizabeth? Campbell was informant for one of the Nugent deaths.
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: Nugil on Wednesday 12 October 16 07:30 BST (UK)
Thank you, Sinann
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: Nugil on Wednesday 12 October 16 07:50 BST (UK)
Yes, Lizzie Campbell is mentioned with Margaret Nugent's death.
Eliza McClean/Eliza Gilpin...not sure? I see Eliza McClean was married (Kilmore) 17.11.1857 which would put her at an age of 21 IF Eliza Gilpin is the same person. Eliza Gilpin (Nugent) being 65 on the 1901 census.
Annie Hagney/Margaret Burns...food for thought
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 12 October 16 14:17 BST (UK)
Think I might nearly have sorted out the confusion with the various surnames but need to double check something. Meanwhile, other than Charles' record (born 1875) & Ellen (born 1872) is there any other mention of Eliza Gilpin?
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: Nugil on Wednesday 12 October 16 14:42 BST (UK)
I only seem to have her connected with her husband, Charles Nugent (possibly born 28.10.1834) and their son, Charles Francis Nugent (b April 1875) and their daughter, Ellen. These bits of information come directly from records on the internet and from correspondence from people on church records.
I've also been trying to look, myself, for Ellen (Toal's) husband - Thomas Nugent's birth to find his parents. Can't find anything, yet. Thomas and Ellen had their niece, Annie Nugent staying there for the 1911 census.
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: Nugil on Wednesday 12 October 16 15:08 BST (UK)
Aghadowey, I see yesterday's post No 28 has Margaret Nugent's records scored through? She has a Lizzie Campbell mentioned with her death...Lizzie Campbell could be of James and Lizzie with whom Thomas is staying on the 1911 census?
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 12 October 16 16:14 BST (UK)
It's not as complicated as it seemed at first- what's throwing us off is Eliza's maiden name.

To start with, there weren't that many Nugents in Trandragee (which may mean that they came from outside at some point) and there are only 2 Charles Nugents of concern- Charles (born 1875) and his father (born c1841). So, in the absence of other marriages (for a Charles Nugent to an Eliza O'Hanlon or Gilpin), the following is likely to be correct-

Charles Nugent (c1841-1906) m. Eliza Gilpin/McClean/O'Hanlon (c1838-1916)
The 1857 marriage date for Charles Nugent & Eliza McClean fits with the birth of eldest known child. In 1911 Eliza's granddaughter Mary Nugent (Charles, Jr.'s daughter) is staying with her
1.   Elizabeth/Lizzie Nugent (c1859) m.(1887) James Campbell
This is likely the Lizzie Nugent informant for Margaret Nugent's death. That Margaret is probably a sister to Charles, Sr. and thus Lizzie Campbell's aunt. In 1911 the Campbells have Lizzie's nephew Thomas staying with them (Charles, Jr.'s son)
2.   Thomas Nugent (c1861-1917) m.(1881) Ellen Toal
In 1911 neice Annie Nugent (Charles Jr.'s daughter) is staying in the household
3.   Margaret Nugent (c1866) m.(1892) William Hagan
Marriage certificate confirms her father as Charles Nugent
4.   Annie/Anna Nugent (1867-1897)
5.   Mary Nugent (1870-1884)
6.   Ellen Nugent (1872-1875?)
7.   Charles Nugent (1875-1910) m.(1896) Annie Mackin (d.1907), m.(1908) Annie Hagney

I have seen parish records where the mother's maiden name was recorded (incorrectly) a few times and in each case I think the mother was from outside the priest's parish. It might even be that Eliza was known by several surnames (father's surname, mother's surname, stepfather's surname) which I've also seen happen in fairly recent times.

More to follow later...
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: Nugil on Wednesday 12 October 16 22:03 BST (UK)
Charles Jr's 2nd wife was Annie ?...being an accepted fact her sister was a Margaret Burns who married a George Murphy and they went to USA...on the 1930 census a "niece" is staying with them - Catherine Hagney!
I also seem to recall (but can't place the record right now) that on one of Annie's visits back to Ireland she stayed/visited a Hagney (between 1920 & 1934??) I'll keep looking.
No 3 - Margaret Nugent/Hagan...father being Charles, with mother...Eliza Gilpin?
No 6 - Ellen (Charles Jr's sister) - is it being implied she died aged 3ish?
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 16 October 16 22:47 BST (UK)
Elizabeth/Lizzie Nugent (c1859-aft.1911) m.(1887) James Campbell, butcher (c1868-aft.1911)
   Bapt.8 Jan.1859 Kilmore, parents Charles Nugent & Eliza McClean
   marriage: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/73b1287702370 
   www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Tandragee_Urban/Emerson_s_Entry/1021236
   www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Tandragee_Urban/Market_Street/332649
1.   Mary Ann/Minnie Campbell (c1888-aft.1911)
2.   ?Anne Campbell (c1890-aft.1901) ?James Campbell (c1891-aft.1911)
3.   ?Sarah Campbell (c1892-aft.1901) ?Patrick Campbell (c1893-aft.1911)
4.   Charles Campbell (c1894-aft.1911)
5.   Thomas Campbell (c1897-aft.1911)
6.   Elizabeth/Lizzie Campbell (5 May 1900-aft.1911) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/1e71752557262
7.   Edward Campbell (9 Sept.1904) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/c7c4152889468

Thomas Nugent (c1861-1917) m.(1881) Ellen Toal (c1862-1917)
   Bapt: 9 Aug.1860 Kilmore, s/o Charles Nugent & Eliza O’Hanlon
   Marriage: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/df523914001327
   www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Tandragee_Urban/Montague_Street/1021409
   www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Tanderagee_Urban/Montague_Street/332758
   Death (Thomas): https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/e335f89952186
   Death (Ellen): https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/1023fe9950147
1.   Charles Nugent (1884-aft.1911)
birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/8452345922669
2.   John Nugent (1886-1903)
Birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/7844231208732
Death: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/1a961911200569
3.   Margaret Nugent (1888-aft.1911)
Birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/4f50605375770
4.   Elizabeth/Lizzie Nugent (1891-aft.1911)
Birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/6553cd5918109
5.   Thomas Nugent (1894-aft.1917)
Birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/a34b811608210
6.   James Nugent (1898-aft.1911)
Birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/1ad89b5229693
7.   Ellen Nugent (7 Feb.1901-aft.1911) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/ff01aa2607089
8.   Annie Nugent (c1903-aft.1911)
9.   Child (d.bef.1911)
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 16 October 16 22:50 BST (UK)
Margaret Nugent (c1866) m.(1892) William Hagan (c1860), barber
Marriage: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/242bd27588436
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Tandragee_Urban/Market_Street/1021358
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Tanderagee_Urban/Market_Street/332679
1.   Georgina Hagan (c1888-aft.1901)- from his 1st marriage
2.   William James Hagan (c1890-aft.1911)- from his 1st marriage
3.   Joseph Hagan (c1893-aft.1911)
4.   Charles S. Hagan (c1895-aft.1911)
5.   Harriet Hagan (c1898-aft.1911)
6.   Winifred Hagan (7 Apr.1900-aft.1911) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/8de0333282901
7.   Etta Hagan (7 Apr.1900-1901/1911) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/9987da3286332
8.   Peter Hagan (13 Dec.1901-d.bef.1911) https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/5d05f43541130

Annie/Anna Nugent (1867-1897)
Birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/73406d4404340 
Bapt. 13 Sept.1867 Kilmore, Anne, parents Charles Nugent & Eliza McClean
Death: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/991fcc11753455

Mary Nugent (1870-1884)- parents Charles Nugent & Elizabeth McClean
Birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/80c5773689997
Bapt: http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632499#page/46/mode/1up
Death: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/f2996e15264354

Ellen Nugent (1872-1875?)
Birth: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/b02a335993359
Bapt. http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632499#page/51/mode/1up
? Death: https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/9e40b418159812

Charles Nugent (2 Apr.1875-1910) m.(1896) Annie Mackin (d.1907), m.(1908) Annie Hagney
Birth (Charles Francis): https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/4382335519485
Bapt.: http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632499#page/55/mode/1up
1.   Annie Nugent (24 Aug.1902)
2.   Thomas Nugent (18 Sept.1903)
3.   Mary Nugent (19 Oct.1906)
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: Nugil on Monday 17 October 16 09:29 BST (UK)
Goodness me, the Family Tree is growing :)
I'm continuing to delve into more records I have to find out any news I can regarding the Murphy's "niece" Catherine Hagney now that it's come to light that Charles' 2nd wife's surname might have been Hagney, not Burns (although there's proven family ties with Margaret Burns/Murphy).
Thank you
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: BMA on Tuesday 21 January 20 15:14 GMT (UK)
Hi Folks
I have done extensive research on the Mackin / Nugent / Hagany line.

Charles Francis Nugent born 2/4/1875 to Charles Nugent and Eliza Gilpin.
on 24/9/1896 he marries Annie Mackin daughter to James Mackin and Ann Burton. James Mackin died in 1877 and Ann marries Bernard Brophy on 16/5/1878. They have a daughter Mary Brophy born 21/9/1878 in Portadown. In 1897 Mary Brophy marries Thomas Cassidy. This accounts for the 1901 census http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Tandragee_Urban/Market_Street/1021363/

Charles is enlisted in the army, which would account for him not being on the census.
Charles and Annie have 3 children Annie (1902), Thomas (1903) and Mary (1906).
Annie dies on 17/11/1907 in Banbridge Workhouse from pulmonary TB.

Charles marries Annie Hagany on 3/3/1908 in Tandragee. Annie is the daughter of John Hagany and Mary Fearon.
Charles dies on 21/4/1910 from Peritoneal TB.
 
In the 1911 census Annie (Hagany) is on her own.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Tanderagee_Urban/Gilford_Street/332573/

Annie is with Thomas Nugent (Charles's brother) and Ellen (Toal) http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Tanderagee_Urban/Montague_Street/332758/

Thomas is with James Campbell and Elizabeth (Nugent) (Charles's sister)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Tanderagee_Urban/Market_Street/332649/

Mary is with her grandmother Eliza (Gilpin).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Tanderagee_Urban/Emersons_Entry/332563/

Sometime after the 1911 census, Annie (Hagany) took her stepson Thomas to America and stayed with her sister Margaret (Hagany) and George Murphy and their family.

The confusion with Burns is Annie (Hagany) had another sister Bridget who married William Burns.

Annie Mackin ID GS19-G5X on www.familysearch.org

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/GS19-G5X

Hope this is of help.
Blathnaid
Title: Re: Mackin Family
Post by: MothDust on Friday 01 April 22 15:57 BST (UK)
I may have an interesting tale to the Mackin story for you all, I was born a Mackin in the UK and our trail back through time has been really interesting. So my great great great grandfather is one James Mackin which I believe is from Cork ireland, all I know was he was regimented there... Here's where it gets odd... During the potato famine a family of  Mackins went over to Jersey... And a C was removed from the name.... So they are now Makin and we only found them about a decade ago through our own research. Can anyone add any pieces to my family trail???
Title: Re: Mackin Family - Thomas
Post by: danidelaney on Monday 02 December 24 01:53 GMT (UK)
Hi Corky,

There is a Thomas Mackin and Bernard Mackin listed as School Teachers in Newtownhamilton, Co. Armagh, in 1864.

A Joseph Mackin is also listed as a teacher in Carrickrovaddy School (Newtownhamilton).

I have not published the document yet so unfortunately I cannot send you any links.

I know these messages are quite old, so I hope people still check these boards. I have recently solved the question of my grandfather's biological parents. He was born in western New York, USA, to Thomas H. Mackin b. 1846 in Armagh (I believe he could be the son of the Thomas listed here, as he had a brother named Bernard, likely named for his father in Ireland). The mother was Agnes Ryan, whose family was from Killarney.

Agnes' first marriage was to a William Ferguson. Then, she married Thomas H. Mackin.
Thomas' first marriage was to Mary Elizabeth Finnegan. It was a second marriage for both of them. He was about 20 years older than she was.

My grandfather was born in 1901. Agnes died in 1904, when my grandfather was 2 years and 4 months old. Thomas had already lost his first wife, an 18-year-old daughter (Alice), and a 24-year-old son (Thomas Junior) not even a year before Agnes' death. He was a Civil War Union veteran who ended up living in a home for disabled veterans. Nobody in his family or Agnes' family took in my grandfather. He ended up being adopted out of a Catholic orphanage in Rochester, New York, when he was 10 years old. 

I have traced Thomas to Armagh. His parents are S. (?) Thomas Mackin (possibly b 1805) and Anna Sarah Murphy (?) Mackin. I believe that S. Thomas' siblings include Elizabeth, John, Bernard, and James. I believe that HIS parents are Bernard and Rose.

I don't know if anyone can help me find any information on this particular set of Mackins. I am happy to have discovered what I have thus far; however, navigating various Irish genealogical tools is very new to me.

Thank you to anyone who can help me.
All the best,
Dani
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