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Title: Banffshire Lunatic Asylum
Post by: Susie C on Sunday 22 January 06 18:28 GMT (UK)
I have a relative who died here in 1905. Does anyone know where I could find out more information especially in relation to her admittance to the Asylum?

Thanks

Title: Re: Banffshire Lunatic Asylum
Post by: macduff on Monday 23 January 06 11:09 GMT (UK)

Hi,

Is it Ladysbridge Hospital just out of Banff that your interested in? If so could you let me know and i'll do my best to find out the information you need.

Macduff
Title: Re: Banffshire Lunatic Asylum
Post by: Susie C on Monday 23 January 06 16:17 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the reply. Not sure if the hospital was Ladysbridge Hospital or not? It was recorded as 'Banffshire Lunatic Asylum'. Her name was Elizabeth Adam and she died 21st June 1905 aged about 45. She lived, prior to her admission into the asylum, in Marnoch (Aberchirder.)
I would be really grateful for any help that you could give me.

Thanks 
Title: Re: Banffshire Lunatic Asylum
Post by: Susie C on Monday 23 January 06 16:30 GMT (UK)
Sorry Macduff, I've just checked the death certificate and the asylum is listed as being in Byrndie (difficult to make out, I think that's what is says?) Does this make sense? It is also referred to as Banff District Asylum.

Thanks

Sue
Title: Re: Banffshire Lunatic Asylum
Post by: macduff on Monday 23 January 06 17:02 GMT (UK)

Hi Susie,

Sounds like it is Laysbridge Hospital, there is an area just out of Banff called Boyndie and thats where Ladysbridge is.

If you give me a few days, i'll see what information i can get for you.

Macduff
Title: Re: Banffshire Lunatic Asylum
Post by: Susie C on Monday 23 January 06 20:09 GMT (UK)
Thanks Macduff I really appreciate your help.
Title: Re: Banffshire Lunatic Asylum
Post by: Forfarian on Monday 13 February 06 00:56 GMT (UK)
It is Ladysbridge Hospital, and it is in the parish of Boyndie, a few miles west of the burgh of Banff. I believe that the records are held in the archives of Grampian Health Board (or whetever its name is after the latest reorganisation) at Woolmanhill, Aberdeen. I have failed to find a web site.

HTH

Forfarian
Title: Re: Banffshire Lunatic Asylum - Elizabeth Adam
Post by: advsmt on Sunday 06 August 06 00:43 BST (UK)
Hi Susie C

I have just looked on the net this minute for Banff Lunatic Asylum as I found a relative of my wife died there - Elizabeth Adam.  Then found your post.  Her half brother, illegitimate, is James McDonald.  Elizabeth, also illegitimate, seems to have had at least 4 children - surname of Isaac x 2, Currie and Sellars! Quite a girl.  Her parents are Alexander Adam and Margaret Anderson.   Margaret had James to Alexander McDonald.  James mcDonald had a son James, also illegitimate with a Jane Allan - that is my wifes line. 

Please get in touch
Title: Re: Banffshire Lunatic Asylum
Post by: BlessedBe on Monday 07 June 10 16:52 BST (UK)
Hello Everyone,

I have just received a death certificate which indicates that my relative 'Annie Elizabeth Thompson Collie Anderson' died in the Ladysbridge Asylum that you all mention in 1968 (aged 82). How can I find out why she was actually there when she died. There is no indication on the certificate save to say cause of death which was not related to mental illness.

Any help gratefully received................. Thanks to all.....................& Regards SFA.
Title: Re: Banffshire Lunatic Asylum
Post by: Forfarian on Monday 07 June 10 17:25 BST (UK)
... died in the Ladysbridge Asylum that you all mention in 1968 (aged 82). How can I find out why she was actually there when she died ....

I believe that as well as patients who were suffering mental illness, there were geriatric patients in Ladysbridge.

The records are likely to be in the hands of Grampian Health Board Archives at Woolmanhill, Aberdeen. Telephone 01224 555562 or e-mail grampian.archives[at]nhs.net (replace [at] with @) You can search their catalogue online at the Scottish Archive Network website (www.scan.org.uk) by typing GB1105 in the archive reference box on the search page.

However records are normally closed for reasons of patient confidentiality for 75 years (100 years in the case of minors), so you may have to contain your curiosity for anything up to 33 years, starting now.
Title: Re: Banffshire Lunatic Asylum
Post by: BlessedBe on Monday 07 June 10 17:42 BST (UK)
Thanks Forfarian............... for the info & your kind help,

I'll be long gone plus some myself by then & I'll probably be able to ask her myself!! However I might get lucky with the authorities.....fingers crossed.

Judging by the numerous photographs of the place I've seen on the internet just now, I don't understand the confidentially slant by the Archivists............as the place as it was, can be seen totally vandalised (both internally & externally). Including one showing a filing cabinet situated within, containing purported patient records strewn about for any Tom Dick or Harry to view............Goodness knows where they are now.

Anyone else have any other suggestions.....................Thanks Again for your assistance...........& Rgds SFA.
Title: Re: Banffshire Lunatic Asylum
Post by: Forfarian on Monday 07 June 10 17:57 BST (UK)
I don't understand the confidentially slant by the Archivists

It looks as if it is something imposed on them from above.
Title: Re: Banffshire Lunatic Asylum
Post by: lakeview on Tuesday 28 October 14 13:10 GMT (UK)
I had previously noted this thread and connected with the grampian archives as suggested by Forfarian.  I received a wonderfully complete response and there was no cost to me. 

It did leave me with some further questions, but suggested I then connect with Aberdeen archives because her board at the asylum was paid by the Marnoch parochial authorities.  "All surviving poor law records for the North-East are held by Aberdeen City and Aberdeenshire Archives, Old Aberdeen House, Dunbar Street, Aberdeen AB24 3UJ, telephone 01224 481775, e-mail archives@aberdeencity.gov.uk A comprehensive name index to these records is held by the City Archives and also by the Aberdeen and North East Scotland Family History Society."  I contacted them by email and received an authomatic reply that I would be contacted within 15 business days.  I am hopeful that I can get answers to the questions I have.

As for the confidentiality issue, this is likely covered by Privacy Laws, as it is in Canada, where I live.  There is a lot of information in these records which can be used for nefarious or just nosy purposes.  I have noticed that censuses seem to have different period before release in different countries.  For example, you can easily access the US 1940 census, but the UK and Canada do not release their records for 100 years. 
 
Title: Re: Banffshire Lunatic Asylum
Post by: Forfarian on Tuesday 28 October 14 13:20 GMT (UK)
This reminds me to say that the Grampian Health Board archives have moved from Woolmanhill and are now housed in the library at the University of Aberdeen.
Title: Re: Banffshire Lunatic Asylum
Post by: ecksdochter on Tuesday 28 October 14 19:35 GMT (UK)
     For information try:   Northern Health Services Archives.

     http://www.nhsgrampian.org/nhsgrampian/files/Archives%20General%20Information.pdf

               Regards,     Dod.