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Title: Eve Family Tree
Post by: martineve on Wednesday 18 January 06 08:41 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I am looking for descendants of the line of John Eve from Felsted b. 1615. My ancetsors later moved to Little Goggleshall then eventually to Whitechapel, London.

Thanks,

Martin
Title: Re: Eve Family Tree
Post by: findem on Wednesday 18 January 06 12:02 GMT (UK)
Hi Martin,

In the Fewell topic you queried if I have any Eve ancestors, I thought it best to respond here, I do have an Eve line although I have not found any links to the locations you mentioned.

My Eve line is currently bogged down looking for the marriage of Thomas Eve and Martha Green.  They obtained a licence to marry at High Easter within 2 weeks of 1st April 1740, no marriage found in High Easter PRs.

They raised their (known) children in High Easter, my Eve line stays there until around 1819 when it moved to Gt Waltham and stayed there to at least around 1860.  My line ends in 1862 when Deborah Eve my gt gt grandmother married into my Card Line.

Although I haven't come across any links of my Eves to the locations of your Eves, I have collected a couple of female Eve baptisms at Gt Waltham, 1829 and 1832 in my "Spares" database.

You may have already found the following Evetree site which contains a heap of Eve info but in case you haven't, here is the address:

http://www.evetree.co.uk/pageuk.html

Regards.
Title: Re: Eve Family Tree
Post by: Reyz on Wednesday 18 January 06 12:21 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: Eve Family Tree
Post by: martineve on Wednesday 18 January 06 12:44 GMT (UK)
Hi Martin,

In the Fewell topic you queried if I have any Eve ancestors, I thought it best to respond here, I do have an Eve line although I have not found any links to the locations you mentioned.

My Eve line is currently bogged down looking for the marriage of Thomas Eve and Martha Green.  They obtained a license to marry at High Easter within 2 weeks of 1st April 1740, no marriage found in High Easter PRs.

They raised their (known) children in High Easter, my Eve line stays there until around 1819 when it moved to Gt Waltham and stayed there to at least around 1860.  My line ends in 1862 when Deborah Eve my gt gt grandmother married into my Card Line.

Although I haven't come across any links of my Eves to the locations of your Eves, I have collected a couple of female Eve baptisms at Gt Waltham, 1829 and 1832 in my "Spares" database.

You may have already found the following Evetree site which contains a heap of Eve info but in case you haven't, here is the address:

http://www.evetree.co.uk/pageuk.html

Regards.

Hi,

Sorry I can't help with the Fewell line as I went into Google and typed in Eve family Gt Waltham and it came back with the thread of your Fewell conversation.

I am new to this website and literally got back into looking up the ancestors last week after a 17 year break! Yes, I got most my info from the website you mentioned and I am now building on that. Is Thomas Eve on the website and which ancestor does he follow?

Regards,
Martin
Title: Re: Eve Family Tree
Post by: findem on Wednesday 18 January 06 22:05 GMT (UK)
Hi Martin,

On the page that appears when the link I posted is clicked on, if you scroll down to Essex and then click on "Tree of Thomas Eve 2 (High Easter) you will see Thomas (abt) 1720 and Martha.

My line is:-
Thomas Eve (circa 1720) & Martha Green

Weston (1749) Eve & Sarah Wheal

George Eve & Susanna Adams, their daughter Deborah married William Card.

You will note that in the Evetree site they show Weston (1749) Eve marrying Lucy Woods which is incorrect, Lucy married Weston's brother Abraham, the site also has Lucy marrying Abraham.  I reported the error a long while ago and whilst the author acknowledges the error she is apparently having a hard time getting the site owner to correct the error.

Unfortunately Thomas Eve's ancestry is currently a mystery, the author of that and other Eve lines has searched for a long while and in many places but not found the baptism or marriage of Thomas.  I've triple checked High Easter PRs to satisfy myself the marriage is not there, as well as searching elsewhere.  I have a horrible feeling this is one of those cases where the clerk failed to record the marriage in the parish register.  Luckily they obtained a licence to marry so at least we know the bride's full name.  I think the only way I'm going to progress with Thomas is to keep my eye open for him at any place in Essex I search for other ancestors around 1720 for baptisms and 1740 for marriages.

Who are your Gt Waltham Eve ancestors?

Regards.

Title: Re: Eve Family Tree
Post by: martineve on Thursday 19 January 06 12:40 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I believe my Gt Waltham links are from Andrew Eve b. 1710 in Felsted married Susan Clarke. It seems they must have moved to Gt Waltham as my next descendant was Charles Eve b. 1748 Great Waltham.

His family them moved to Coggleshall where he died. They lived there for another 4 generations before they moved to London late 1800's where my grandfather and father were born.

Martin
Title: Re: Eve Family Tree
Post by: findem on Thursday 19 January 06 22:09 GMT (UK)
Hi Martin,
Thanks for the outline of your Eve line,  as your Eves moved out of Gt Waltham before my lot moved in there doesn't seem to be a link.  I've noticed that sometimes a family will move to a parish and before long related families move in too.

I suppose there is still a possibility of a link between our Eves, my earliest known ancestor is Thomas Eve born circa 1720, currently neither myself nor others can say where he was born.  In my tree there has been quite a bit of traffic between parishes in that neck of the woods e.g. Felsted, Gt Waltham and the Easters.  I noticed the name Charles crops up in your Eves, it occurs quite a few time in my Eve families.  Of all my many branches the name Charles only appears to have been "handed down" through generations in two families, Eve and Theobald, it might pay me to check Felsted for a Thomas Eve.

Regards.     

Title: Re: Eve Family Tree
Post by: Piperatthegates on Friday 28 April 06 17:35 BST (UK)
Hello.
This is the first time I have written to anyone on this site: it's mainly my husbands territory.
I am an Eve by birth (by adoption!) and have always lived in and around mid and north Essex.
I thought it might be helpful to tell you the place name is actually Coggeshall.
I have looked briefly at my Eve line and it's difficult as both my parents died quite young but I will keep an eye out and I am more than happy to help any people with Essex work that might be difficult for them to arrange. (up to a point!)
Best wishes as you take this forward.
ECMC 1960
Title: Re: Eve Family Tree
Post by: findem on Saturday 29 April 06 01:54 BST (UK)
Hi Piper,
Thanks for that.
My wife and I have been to Coggeshall quite a few times, whenever we revisit Essex we usually take a drive there.  Since living in Australia I've been to Coggeshall more times than when I lived in Chelmsford.
Through my ancestors I have quite a strong link to Coggeshall, my grandmother Annie Card nee Harris was born and raised in Coggeshall.  Annies father Joseph Harris was a Miller at I believe the Abbey Mill, his father was an Iron founder at Coggeshall.  Michael Dalton and his father Michael were Blacksmiths there, other Coggeshall names are Potter, Aliston, Anthony & G(J)epp.

As you may have read, my ancestors are so far High Easter and Gt Waltham based although the earliest known ancestor Thomas Eve circa 1740, came from elsewhere.  If you get to either of those parishes with your research let me know and perhaps I can help you.  I do have the odd one or two Eves from East Hanningfield, Gt Burstead, Maldon, Saffron Walden and a few from Roxwell.  So far no link apparent to mine but one day who knows.
There is an Eve family site of which you may be unaware, it has quite a number of different Eve branches from various locations.

http://www.evetree.co.uk/pageuk.html

Regards.

 
Title: Re: Eve Family Tree
Post by: MiddleEnglander on Sunday 30 April 06 21:49 BST (UK)
Hi Martin (and Findem) .....

I know it's pretty obvious, but have you checked for John Eve (or his descendants, or simply Coggeshall Eves) using Boyd's List (on-line, small fee) through the English Origins website - or maybe on the IGI Index, a copy of which should be on microfiche (freely) available at your main library ??

The advent of the internet during your 17 year break has totally changed the face of genealogy - so happy surfing !

Aye

MiddleEnglander
Title: Re: Eve Family Tree
Post by: findem on Monday 01 May 06 01:28 BST (UK)
Hi M E,
I have looked for my Thomas Eve but not in the online Boyd's, I used the Boyd's at the ERO when I was over there this year.  Of course he wasn't found in Boyd's, I haven't had much luck with Boyd's but I still keep trying.  :(

It seems that those ancestor's I have no trouble finding are in Boyd's but the difficult ones are not, am I being paranoid?   

Title: Re: Eve Family Tree
Post by: MiddleEnglander on Monday 01 May 06 10:01 BST (UK)
Hello Findem (and Martin) ......

It's a pity about Boyds.  It would still be worth Martin checking though, as he seems to have a slightly different line.

Again, I hope I'm not teaching mother how to suck eggs, but ....... I did have a quick search of the National Archive Online Documents service ( http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/ ) using "Eve" for 1600 through to 1750 and found a couple of intersting looking Wills.  If you haven't been there recently I recommend you have a look.

One Will struck me as particularly interesting, that being for Thomas Eve, Yeoman of Chignall St James dated 1666.  I know it's 50 years earlier than the time of your 'missing' Thomas Eve, but the proximity of High Easter to C St J and the traditional use of forenames makes it of some interest I'd have thought.  There were a couple of John Eve Wills too. 

As most wills mention children, so you may be able to work 'back to front' to get to your ancestors.

Certainly worth a look and may be worth the £3.50 a shot to look at one or two.

Aye

MiddleEnglander
Title: Re: Eve Family Tree
Post by: findem on Tuesday 02 May 06 08:16 BST (UK)
Hi M E,
Thanks for the tip off regarding wills, I'll give them a check sometime I think.

Yes it may be worth Martin trying his luck with Boyd's, being on a different line to mine he might get lucky.

Regards
Title: Re: Eve Family Tree
Post by: marty777 on Friday 09 September 11 16:35 BST (UK)
Hi I am new today but trying to find a tree for the Eve Family of London and possible relationship with the Culpeper Family as my Grandmother told me about a family story about a link to Thomas Culpeper who had a liaison with Henry VIII's Queen Katherine Howard. Also a possible link to the late 1600's Governor Thomas Lord Culpepper of Virginia
Title: Re: Eve Family Tree
Post by: findem on Friday 09 September 11 23:43 BST (UK)
Hi Marty,

Welcome to RootsChat,

Although this topic is martineve's I thought I'd stick my nose in, in between my last post on this topic dated 2 May 06 I haven't come across any link to a London Eve family, let's hope for your sake martineve might have.

Just in case the Eve you're looking for is an Essex stray, if you give me a name and an approximate date I'll check through my databases.

If you haven't already done so it might be worthwhile having a look on the site below.

http://www.evetree.co.uk/pageuk.html

If all else fails it would be advisable to put a post on the London & Middlesex board of RootsChat.

Regards and good luck.


 
Title: Re: Eve Family Tree
Post by: Bonniebuster196 on Saturday 15 March 14 07:16 GMT (UK)
Hi
Very interesting to read about all the EVE's out there.  My maternal Grandmother was an Eve they came from Loose/Maidstone in Kent.  Many of them moved up to Islington area at about 1860/70.  Be interested to hear from anyone else with Eves from that area.

KR
Bonnie
Title: Re: Eve Family Tree
Post by: findem on Saturday 15 March 14 22:45 GMT (UK)
Hi Bonnie,

Sorry but I have no info on any of my Eve line going to or coming from Kent or the now Greater London area of Middlesex.  All the research carried out by myself and another Eve co researcher was carried out on various Essex parishes.  Having said that there is of course the possibility that an Essex Eve could have gone to Kent and started a line there.  My Eve line goes back to the 1600s, that means there are a heap of ancestor siblings whose life, other than birth/baptism and possibly marriage, is unaccounted for, it would have been a mammoth task to follow up on siblings as well as one's own ancestors. 

If you come across an Eve with what you consider to be links to Essex you can if you wish throw a name and date/year at me and I'll check out my info.

If you haven't already done so I suggest you start a topic on the Kent board , add a few names and dates as well, of those you know were born and lived in Kent and perhaps on the Middlesex/London board for those Eves you know were there.  You might have more luck there I'm not too sure how many RootsChatters would trawl the Essex Completed Lookup requests.

Regards.
Title: Re: Eve Family Tree
Post by: vabbott on Friday 04 April 14 22:45 BST (UK)
Hi,

I am looking for descendants of the line of John Eve from Felsted b. 1615. My ancetsors later moved to Little Goggleshall then eventually to Whitechapel, London.

Thanks,

Martin Hi There
There was a John Eve Born 1615 Felsted died 1688 Felsted Buried 10th April (in woollen)
He was married to Alice Parker of Gt Dunmow in 1639 They had several children First one John strangely enough was born and died in 1640 then another John 1642 then William, Joseph,Alice, Andrew b 1650 d 1650,Marie, another Andrew, and Elizabeth
Any Help
Ronnie