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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Down => Topic started by: Lexi on Wednesday 18 January 06 03:25 GMT (UK)
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Hello All
This is my fist post here on Rootschat and I'm hoping someone might be able to assist me further in my research.
My gggg grand parents were Hans Dixon and Elizabeth Airdire. Elizabeth's parents were Adam Airdrie and Letitia McCrae and I'm unsure of who Han's parents were, but I'm very eager to try and find out.
Hans Dixon was b. abt 1806 in Ireland, d. 8 Nov 1866 in Scotland
Elizabeth b. abt 1812 in Ireland
Children of Hans and Elizabeth:
John b. abt. 1830 d. 06 Feb 1870 Kilbirnie, Aye, Scotland
Letitia b. abt. 1834
Hugh b. abt 1837 d. 22 Dec. 1914, Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland
David b. abt 1838
William b. abt 1847
Thomas b. abt 1850
HANS b. abt 1855
Adam b. abt 1857
According to the birth certificate of Hans Dixon b. 1855 in Scotland it lists his father, Hugh Dixon's birth as County Down, Ireland....Where in Co. Down is anyone's guess? Being new to this part of my research, I certainly would appreciate any suggestions as to where I should start searching next???
Best Regards
Lexi
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Lexi,
You could try www.ancestryireland.com I had a look for you and there are 2
Hugh Dixon born before 1841 but doesn't give date. If you want to view it, it cost £6. It's not cheap. good luck.
gjil
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Lexi:
Here is link to Ros Davies'site for County Down.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/D/DicksonDixon.htm
Good luck,
Pat
Ros Davies' Co. Down website now here:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/
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Hei Lexi,
Here are some Co. Down Dixons. I found a Davie Dixon in Ballynahinch, Co. Down but think he was in recent times. www.knowhere.co.uk/4231_heroes.html Broken link
Some more Dixons, this time during the years 1863-4 (Griffiths Valuation of Co. Down. http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php
Best Wishes, Chris
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Gjil, Pat and Christopher
Greatly appreciate your replies.
gjil Someone I have contact with belongs to the Ulster Foundation, I'll ask them to do a look up. Whatever the cost it's cheaper then plane fare... ;D
Pat I've set my Dixon research to one side for a while now. so I'm a little rusty. I do believe I've seen this list, but will re-check my records. Thanks
Christopher see above, but I have reviewed the Griffiths Valuation, buts its been awhile, so I'll revisit the site just to make sure I've not missed a clue or two :o
Thanks a bunch
Lexi
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Hei Lexi,
This is the Co. Down board so the subject heading Co. Down seems pointless. Try doing a "search rootschat" for Co. Down - 7 pages whilst a search for Co Down gives 117 pages. http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=searchsearch Here are a couple of sites giving the origin of the surname Dixon - www.thenortheast.fsnet.co.uk/Surnames%20of%20North%20East%20England.htm www.the-dicksons.org/name/name_index.htm
The Familysearch site shows a Hans Dixon born in Ireland and a couple of Hans Dicksons from Killyleagh, Co. Down. Do not worry too much about the difference in spelling. I feel it could be worth while having a look at the Dicksons of Killyleagh. http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=ancestorsearchresults.asp
I also looked at the 1912 Ulster Covenant. Several Co. Down Dixons appear on this document. http://www.proni.gov.uk/ulstercovenantsearch
The Christian names of the children, other than Adam and Letitia who appear to be named after Elizabeth's parents, may provide a clue to either Hans' father or his grandfather as indeed Hans' own name may provide a clue. Did all the children have one name?
By the way "Aye" in Scotland? I assume you mean AYR.
All the Best, Chris
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Hello Christopher,
You Said:
This is the Co. Down board so the subject heading Co. Down seems pointless
OK sorry it was my first posting here. ;D
Yes, it was a type "O" I meant to say Ayr and not Aye.
Thank you for your suggestions and I did go back and look for any hidden clues and guess what...Yup, you were correct sending me there to check again.
On the death cert of the above mentioned Hugh Dixon's son. Which would be my ggg gf "Hugh Dixon", his father's name is listed as "John Hans Dixon"
The hour is late and I need some time to try and sort this all out...
Take Care
Lexi
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Hello
I've re-visited the IGI and found Hans Dickson b. abt 1727, which I've seen before and have always wondered if he maybe related...Well I'm going to write to the 1st Presbyterian Killyleagh
19 Coiley Hill Road, Killyleagh, Tel 02844 828246
2nd Presbyterian Killyleagh
Seaside Road, Killyleagh, Tel 02844 828167
So I would appreciate your comments in regards to wether or not I should send a donation to the church along with my request or should I wait until they respond to my request...
Kind Regards
Lexi
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Hello Lexi,
Churches always appreciate small donations. I would suggest sending with your request. If they are a little bit slow replying then you are in a good position to drop a gentle reminder.
Best Wishes, Chris
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Thanks Christopher
I was unsure of the protocol. Now, my next question is? Can I send US Dollars or should I go to a bank for an exchange......I am aware that I should include return international postage. Greatly appreciate all suggestions!
Kind Regards
Lexi
P.S. If I may ask? "Man in Black in Ireland" as in "Johnny Cash ? " One of my favorite country western performers ever,next to Willie Nelson, that is! ;D
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Hi Lexi,
That is a good question. Maybe sending a note explaining you would like to make a small donation and asking if they would prefer dollars or sterling would be would be the best idea.
Re the Man in Black. Recently I decided a black sweat shirt, trousers and shoes look very smart. I now have several black sweat shirts (one with a Dennis the Menace motif), a couple of pair of trousers, shoes and boots. I am not an entertainer though. I rank Johnny Cash as a great singer, Gary Player (a great golfer from South Africa) was also known as The Man in Black as was Valentine Dyall, an actor who presented the BBC Radio famous horror series "Appointment with Fear" between 1943 to 1955. My cousin, Keith Donald, a well known Irish saxophonist also dresses in black. http://www.keithdonald.com/index.html
Best Wishes, Chris
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Hello Christopher,
Thanks for your reply. Wonderful suggestion and I'll post them this week and will surely let you know the results of my request.
Now when you say sterling, you're not talking about the silver in my teeth are you? ;D Ah, just kidding ya!
Your cousin, Keith Donald is very talented and I'm guessing it must run in the family? Irish music either makes me laugh or cry. I enjoy both.
Regards
Lexi
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Hi Lexi,
I'm not a musician. In addition to my genealogy interests I write poetry and prayers. I noticed a message on one of the boards a few minutes ago that the mother of a Rootschat member had been ill recently. I thought about her and other people I know who also have been ill during the past few weeks. Then I wrote the following lines:-
Dear Lord we pray that you give strength to the ill,
May they make an early recovery if that is your will.
We pray for the doctors and nurses who care for our health
For it is much better to have that than considerable wealth.
All the Best, Chris
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Hello Christopher
Your Quote
Dear Lord we pray that you give strength to the ill,
May they make an early recovery if that is your will.
We pray for the doctors and nurses who care for our health
For it is much better to have that than considerable wealth.
Having 2 members of my own family in poor health, I greatly appreciate your words of wisdom. Plus I've a doctor and a few nurses in my family and will be sure to pass this poem along to them.
Regards
Lexi
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Lexi,
It's been a while since you posted this but i was wondering if you ever found the parents's names for Hans as I retrieved them from an unverified (but reasonable) source to say his parents were Hugh Dixon and Sarah McCrae. This could possibly make Hans and Elizabeth related through the mothers of each. Also, there are some Scotland surveys that have 'Dickson' as the last name for a couple of the Dixon family members.
If you have other info than or alternative to this, I would love to hear it. I am researching the Airdrie line.
Shanty
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Hi Shanty,
If I may ask who is the "unverified source" you can pm the info, but I have a feeling the person's first name maybe Alan?
Here's what I have from my tree
Name: Hans Dixon
Sex: M
Birth: ABT 1810 in Ireland
Death: 8 NOV 1866 in North Street, Dalry, Ayr, Scotland
Reference Number: 3640
Note: 1851 age 45 151 Bank Street, Kilbirnie, Ayr, Scotland - born Ireland - miner
Father: Hugh Dixon
Mother: Sarah McCrae
Marriage 1 Elizabeth Airdire b: ABT 1811 in Ireland
Children
John Dickson b: ABT 1830 in Ireland
Litia Dixon b: ABT 1834 in Ireland
Hugh Dixon b: ABT 1837 in Ireland
David Dixon b: ABT 1838 in Ireland
Hans Dixon b: ABT 1840 in Ireland
William Dixon b: ABT 1847 in Kilbirnie, Ayr, Scotland
Thomas Dixon b: ABT 1850 in Kilbirnie, Ayr, Scotland
Hans Dixon b: ABT 1855
Adam Dixon b: ABT 1857 in Kilbirnie, Ayr, Scotland
From what I understand, there are two related families from Kilbirnie by the name of Dixon and one changed the spelling to Dickson. At this point, I don't have any other info on the Airdire family, but would be most interested if we have a family connection....
Lexi
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I don't know the person's actual name. Their display name on Rootsweb is AWD7 but their data is a match for what i have. I believe however, that the "Hans Dixon b: ABT 1855" as you list below is actually the Hans Dixon b: 23 May 1855 and son of Hugh Dixon (Hans' & Elizabeth son). The Elizabeth Airdire was a misspelling of 'Airdrie' on one of the early Scotland census'. What I am missing is how Elizabeth Airdrie connects into my Airdrie family line. I believe her father - Adam - was the brother to my ggggrandfather David. I am basing this on their ages and birth place. In addition, the only other place I have found the name Letitia in my family tree was David's daughter. I thought this might be because of his sister-in-law Letitia McCrae.
Unfortunately, I have no verfication of this but so far my gut feelings (with a bit of logic thrown in) has been panning out pretty good. My adventure is now in Ireland for records for David, Adam and Thomas all of whom i believe were brothers but Ireland is not easy to research. This is why I was really hoping you might have had some info on the Airdrie's (also spelled Airdire, Ardrie, Airdrey, Airdire, Airdre, a couple of others) in Ireland. If you ever come acrosee any, i would love to hear from you on it!
So to answer your question, 'yes' it would appear in a round-about way, we are related. Fact is, if anyone has an Airdrie in their family line, we are related. After all, there aren't too many of us. If you want to see what i've got for names and such, here http://airdriefleming.tribalpages.com/ is a link to my family tree. I haven't updated it in a while (too darned nice outside!). The majority of the Airdrie names are verified with copies of the records however, this site doesn't allow for uploading of such things.
Have a great day!
-Shanty
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I don't know the person's actual name. Their display name on Rootsweb is AWD7 but their data is a match for what i have. I believe however, that the "Hans Dixon b: ABT 1855" as you list below is actually the Hans Dixon b: 23 May 1855 and son of Hugh Dixon (Hans' & Elizabeth son). The Elizabeth Airdire was a misspelling of 'Airdrie' on one of the early Scotland census'. What I am missing is how Elizabeth Airdrie connects into my Airdrie family line. I believe her father - Adam - was the brother to my ggggrandfather David. I am basing this on their ages and birth place. In addition, the only other place I have found the name Letitia in my family tree was David's daughter. I thought this might be because of his sister-in-law Letitia McCrae.
Unfortunately, I have no verfication of this but so far my gut feelings (with a bit of logic thrown in) has been panning out pretty good. My adventure is now in Ireland for records for David, Adam and Thomas all of whom i believe were brothers but Ireland is not easy to research. This is why I was really hoping you might have had some info on the Airdrie's (also spelled Airdire, Ardrie, Airdrey, Airdire, Airdre, a couple of others) in Ireland. If you ever come acrosee any, i would love to hear from you on it!
So to answer your question, 'yes' it would appear in a round-about way, we are related. Fact is, if anyone has an Airdrie in their family line, we are related. After all, there aren't too many of us. If you want to see what i've got for names and such, here http://airdriefleming.tribalpages.com/ is a link to my family tree. I haven't updated it in a while (too darned nice outside!). The majority of the Airdrie names are verified with copies of the records however, this site doesn't allow for uploading of such things.
Have a great day!
-Shanty
Hi Shanty,
If we're related by the Airdrie line, all I can say is Welcome to the family... :) Thanks for the link, I do see you have Elizabeth's brother listed John m. to Janet, along with a great deal of info on the Dixon's.
awd7 is the husband of my relative in the UK, but not related by the Dixon/Airdrie family name. When I began my research several years ago, I shared my entire family with him and he incorporated it into his family history with my permission, of course. When I posted the information above, I had to borrow it from his records, because (I could scream here, but I won't) Long story short, my computer crashed and I lost tons of my data, bought new computer with Vista and now my FTM isn't compatible. There isn't a patch available, so I need to purchase a new FTM version 17 or 18 to transfer my records over to Vista. >:(
Its very possible that awd has some typo's over the spelling, dates, etc. , because I've noticed a few myself. ;D
The name of "Letitia" was carried down through my Dixon line and she's also known as Letty in the 1881 census. Sorry that I wasn't able to help you make the connection between Elizabeth Airdrie/Dixon her father Adam and your gggg gf David. You're light years ahead on this line.
Lexi