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I was wondering if there was anyway who could find the inscriptions of my G.G.. Grandparents Charles & Eliza VESSEY Gravestones Holy Trinity Chruch Yard Horncastle Plot 76 I am told. Not sure where I got the Plot No from.(So much for my Resourcing)
Charles died in 1878 & Eliza died 1887 . They were living in Stanhope Rd.Horncastle
Any Help appreciated
DIANNE
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I'll try and take a look for you next week when I am there, I think Holy trinity is now the Antiques Centre
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Hello Willowwah & thank you for your reply
If you could do that for me I would be pleased. Such alot of my Vessey Decendents lived born and died in Horncastle Horkstow area.
I am hoping to come to England sometime this year and look around some of my ancestors villages. Mostly in Lincolnshire. etc. I live in New Zealand
I would be interested to know if the Cemetery in fact does still exist.
In anticipation
DIANNE
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Hi
Yes there is a graveyard there....
The antiques centre is in what was the Church building
there's also St Marys church which is still in use
I'll take my digital camera with me (Monday hopefully) and show you what the Trinity centre is now.
I'll see what grave stones are around there
Theres also a central graveyard (modern I think) on the Boston rd
ps What are your village in Lincolnshire??
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Would you really do this for me,
I dont want to take you out of your way but if you could take a shot of the Cemetery /Church it would mean a lot to me
Any VESSEY in that cemetery is mine.
Charles Vessey born 1812 Horsington was the son William & Mary East
and there were six others in the family all born in lHorncastle
Charles Vessey married Eliza Evison died 1878 & 1887 They had 10 children all born in Horncastle so there are plenty of them
I know Charles & Eliza had a daughter Charlotte Vessey born 1840 died 1841 and she was buried in the Horncastle Cemetery
also another daughter Eliza Vessey died 1912 aged 76 not married is buried there also
It would be wonderful if you could get a snap shot, as in doing this research over the years, I feel as if I have come to know all these faceless people & to be able to put a picture of sorts would be the icing on the cake.
Because I have resourced my immediate line I am now going on to other branches & it is becoming a nightmare with all the Williams Charles & Eliza.s. but I won,t stop. am enjoying it too much
Regards
DIANNE
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Hi its not a problem at all I lived at Wragby 10 miles away as a child but my senior school was in Horncastle
My dad retired there 3 yrs ago
I will definately do that for you but it may not be as soon as I hoped
My father had a heart attack last night and Ive been in the Lincoln hospital all day...
will probably be next week or later if he's kept in longer..
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Sorry to hear about your dad
I hope he is well on the way to recovery.
Of course there is no pressure.
I quite understand.
Keep your spirits up
DIANNE N.Z.
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Former church was built as a chapel of ease to the parish church of St Mary's and was completed in 1848. Finally declared redundant in 1972 it was abandoned and left without maintenance. Restored by Heritage Lincolnshire. Now an Antique & Collectables Centre.
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dont know if you have these or not?
all buried at horncastle st mary
charles vessey infant buried 31st march 1833
charlotte vessey infant buried 13th june 1841
harriett vessey aged 50yrs buried 25th oct 1850
joseph aged 24yrs buried 22nd july 1833
joseph vessey aged 1yrs buried 16th march 1852
rachell vessey aged 40yrs buried 19th sept 1854
william vessey aged 1yrs buried 4th sept 1840
regards
alli
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further burials at horncastle for vessey's-
charles aged 66yrs buried 27th nov 1878
eliza aged 71yrs buried 2nd jan 1888
mary aged 75yrs buried 31st march 1865
william aged 42yrs buried 26th may 1823
hope this helps?
regards
alli
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Hello Alli
Thank you for all these death dates. Would you believe it, is only this week end I have sent off to Gro for 3 of these certifiicates I had the year but not the day & month Although it is nice to have a certificate cost wise Ive just got to stop some where.
These dates are a great help to me I will be able to put a closure to some of these people. at least the infants.
Very much appreciated
DIANNE NEW ZEALAND
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Hi Alli
I forgot to mention that Eliza & Charles are my 2 x great G. parents and William & Mary are my 3 x G.. Grand Parents and I didnt know these last two were buried at Horncastle.
I have in my family files another William died 1901 Horncastle This I believe to be my 2 x g,g, He is was on the 1891 Census with wife Eliza and family in Bexley Kent but not on the 1901 although Eliza & Famly were still in Kent. This 1901 certificate is one I have just sent for. I should wait for the certificate to arrive but wondered if you had any day month for the 1901 death & was he buried at Horncastle
RegardS
DIANNE
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I was wondering if there was anyway who could find the inscriptions of my G.G.. Grandparents Charles & Eliza VESSEY Gravestones Holy Trinity Chruch Yard Horncastle Plot 76 I am told. Not sure where I got the Plot No from.(So much for my Resourcing)
Charles died in 1878 & Eliza died 1887 . They were living in Stanhope Rd.Horncastle
Any Help appreciated
DIANNE
you are in luck
I had to go to HC to collect things for my father in hospital and ran upto the church,
The graves are no longer insitu, one or 2 are free standing, the rest removed, there are 2 areas where they have survived, the first area are all relating the the Jobson family
The second area is a place they have lined up remaining headstones.
I found the one for Charles Vessey died 1878
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Hello Willow Wah
I have just caught up with your posting. What a find. Charles is my Great
great grandfather.Pity about the removed gravestones.
I dont know if you have read other postings of mine to RootChat But my grand father Cecil Vessey immigrated to N.Z in 1910 and married my grandmother.He left behind in England his parents &siblings and had no further contact with them again I think this is very strange. My father said they were never allowed to ask questions.
.My father died four years ago and this is when I began to research his Vessey family He would have loved to have known what I have found about his family. He grew up not knowing anything about his grandparents uncles aunts or cousin I have gone back as far as 1732 I thought Vesseys was an unusual name but not so, there were ever so many in Lincoln
This Charles' grave that you have found had 5 siblings all born in Horncastle & when he married Eliza, he had 10 children of his own all born in Horncastle I am now starting to branch out sideways Never ending.
All the Vesseys in the New Zealand Telephone book are my Aunts Uncles or Cousins & I have got them all . None of my Vessey cousins in NZ have done any research leaving it all to Dianne
Is the offer still on about taking some photos.
Living in New Zealand and living so far away and knowing someone is actually living near Horncastle makes my eyes water.
Thank you for taking up your valuable time . I can just imagine you running up the road to the cemetery.Mind you I have spent plenty of time in the New Zealand Cemeterys taking photos.A great Hobby !
Keep in touch
DIANNE
NEW ZEALAND
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I bet you would like the photo too ;)
which I took and will get off the camera this weekend if not before I think his wifes name was once on the stone too but it is broken off and obscured
Also took photos of the Trinity Centre and there was a display of old photos inside of what it used to look like so I grabbed a shot of those too
I'm still busy I work all morning and am having to spend the rest of the day at the hospital with my father, he's still on the heart ward but is looking a little better
I will be going to horncastle again one day next week to check on his house so will have a look at St Marys to see if there are graves still there or not ( I live about 25 miles from HC)
Its a shame you cant load pics on here or link to your own webspace to show them
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photos of gravestone, church and a wall display now sent.
Please let me know if you didnt get them
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Hi Wllowah Out late Arrived home at midnight & your pictures had arrived. Couldnt wait to read e-mail and the frustration. My computor is old & SLOW.! The first picture opened up of the gravestone Really pleased & couldnt really believe that I was actually looking at the first tangible thing I have seen to connect me with my ancestors After 1 & 1/2 hours of waiting now nearly 2.am tired but not complaining the next picture came up then a signal appears "RAN OUT OF DISC SPACE' You do not know how dissappointed I am Every thing seized up & as I am not very Computor illiterate Can,t even print them off.
MY daughters work is at a printing office so I will forward E-mail to her tomorrow Monday & she will print them off on high glossy paperfor me
Not a worry but I see there is another two e-mails that I cant open from you.
I think something may be telling me to get a new Computor, they are quite reasonably priced over here, but I have been comfey with this , at least untill now.
Glad your dad is making good progress. Will let you know how I get on tomorrow
and without repeating my self thank you so much again. I see where you are 25 miles away please do not put yourself out for me
I see on my Vessey birth certificates there were at least 10 Vesseys baptised in this church., It would be great if we turn the clock back just to imagine the family with all the family at the christenings & funerals
Also could you tell me what those little white flowers in the photos are ? Snowdrops crocuses.
Bye for now
DIANNE N.Z.
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Hi Wllowah Out late Arrived home at midnight & your pictures had arrived. Couldnt wait to read e-mail and the frustration. My computor is old & SLOW.! The first picture opened up of the gravestone Really pleased & couldnt really believe that I was actually looking at the first tangible thing I have seen to connect me with my ancestors After 1 & 1/2 hours of waiting now nearly 2.am tired but not complaining the next picture came up then a signal appears "RAN OUT OF DISC SPACE' You do not know how dissappointed I am Every thing seized up & as I am not very Computor illiterate Can,t even print them off.
MY daughters work is at a printing office so I will forward E-mail to her tomorrow Monday & she will print them off on high glossy paperfor me
Not a worry but I see there is another two e-mails that I cant open from you.
I think something may be telling me to get a new Computor, they are quite reasonably priced over here, but I have been comfey with this , at least untill now.
Glad your dad is making good progress. Will let you know how I get on tomorrow
and without repeating my self thank you so much again. I see where you are 25 miles away please do not put yourself out for me
I see on my Vessey birth certificates there were at least 10 Vesseys baptised in this church., It would be great if we turn the clock back just to imagine the family with all the family at the christenings & funerals
Also could you tell me what those little white flowers in the photos are ? Snowdrops crocuses.
Bye for now
DIANNE N.Z.
Dianne
If you have a slow PC and they take forever to arrive you will have exactly the same problem trying to send them out.
I suggest you email me your daughters email addess and I'll send on to her
I am presuming here that she has a higher spec PC
As soon as I can I'll try and see if any graves are left standing in St Marys
on the 25th I have to put some flowers on my step mothers grave on behalf of my father, thats in a large cemetary on Boston Rd, I'll try and see if there are Vessey headstones.
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Hello WillowWah
I now have all the pictures, didnt know there were so many as only 3 came through on to my email. My daughter bought them home at lunch time, all done on photgraphic paper. They look supurb. I wish Rootchatters could see them. They are now in my family tree album waitng for the day I produce my book. Lovely old church and a pity to see the cemetery desecrated like it is. Also those photos taken from inside the church That is history in itself
I feel like saying thank you is not enough. They mean alot to me.
I will say it again with all sincerity
Regards
DIANNE NEW ZEALAND
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You are very welcome,
Just wish I had people from my area of research willing to do the same, but I get where I need as often as I can.
I will take more for you, dad is recovering well and is expected out of hospital in 2 weeks time and spring will soon be here !!
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hi dianne
Incase you are still researching
I must apologise in the delay of several months
but after dads heart attack he followed it with a stroke a month later and several other illnesses
I became his carer so he could still stay at home independent
However on 16th Aug he passed away at home with a heart attack
Whilst organising the funeral i had an ooportunity to look in the registers for burials, the grave digger there is a lovely man
This is the grave yard on the Boston Rd Horncastle, burials were made there from 1896
I found some veaseys
and some Vesseys
Sarah Vessey 8- June-1913
Eliza Vessey 29-June-1923
hope these are of help
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Hi
I live in Horncastle if you want any more photo's taken of places I also live near the Trinity church
Sue.........
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I have an old photo of Trinity church also some old ones of St Mary's if you are interested.
Sue
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Hi Willowah
Have just come across your message. Please see personal message
Have been away for a couple of months.
DIANNE
NEW ZEALAND
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Hello Sue 1950
Sorry for not answering you earlier but as you will read I have been tripping around overseas. Britain U.S.A Canada & Egypt and a cruise down the Nile.
Willowah has been of great help to me and took a photograph of my 3 x great grandfather's grave at St Marys Cemetery 1878 and a photo of the church and recently found two more names of great Aunts from the Boston Road Cemetery.
Getting the photos was probably one of the highlights of my research, much more than the purchase of a sent Certificate with an added name.
I have at least 20 VESSEY ancestors in these graveyards but Willowah says that alot of the gravestones have been demolished and St Marys is now an antique shop. My grandparents Vessey had a family of 12 children all christened married and buried in Horncastle.I am lucky in having an unusual name. Makes research a lot easier.The two recent names that Willowah sent of the two unmarried sisters Sarah born 1856-1923 and Eliza 1845 -1923 both were still living at 15 Stanhope Rd. address when they died, the home that their parents had purchased in 1838.
Thank you for your kind offer -Oh to live in Horncastle where I could get my hands on more information.
From the other side of the world
DIANNE
NEW ZEALAND
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Hi
Trust you had a good holiday.
I live round the corner from Stanhope road.
Sue
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Hello Sue 1950
It is terrible trying to settledown after a holiday. everything is flat. I was on an escorted Bus trip around Britain and alas,we didnt go anywhere near Lincolnshire. My sister, who I went with would think it was all a terrible bore looking into genealogy. I am afraid she dosnt share my interest.
I would love you to pop around sometime if you could and see if 15 Stanhope Rd is still standing.Probably by now has made way for new Bldgs. What sort of a house was it. It could give me an insite into there status in life?????. I know that sounds awful but little tit bits like that, does tell me what there lives were like in those days.and when working on the VESSEY tree builds up a picture in mind about them. William Vessey my Gt Gt Gt grandfather was a Malster, ie ;worked in a brewery. Do you know of any local brewerys that he could have worked in.?
Bye for now and thank you for your interest.
DIANNE
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What years were your family in Horncastle, I have a few old photo's of Horncastle if you let me have your email addy I will send them to you
Sue........
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Hello Sue again
My 7 x GT Grandfather Edward Vessey was married in Stallingborough 1732 My 6 x GT Grandfather Edward VESSEY born in Stallingborough 1732
My 5 x GT Grandfather William VEssey born in Stallingborough 1756
My 4Gt Grandfather William Vessey born in Horncastle 1782
My 3 x Gt.Grandfather Charles Vessey born in Horncastle 1812
MY 2nd GT GrandfatherWilliam Vessey born Horncastle 1847
My grandfather Cecil Vessey born 1880 Bexley Kent(immigrated to NZ1910
MY father Lawrence Vesey Born 1913 New Zealand
Thats my family,
I have been branchng out on to all the above wives and their familys etc. and some with 12 children you can imaginie how big my tree is. I never meant to get it so large, but I keep coming up with new finds ???? and I just have to put them in.
The people on Rootschat have been a tremendous help to me.
Bye
DIANNE
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Morning Diane
I have sent you an email with your address can you let me know if I have the address right I can then start sending you some old photos
Sue
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Evening Sue.
Received your e-mail.
All correct
Dianne
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Hi Dianne
I have just been doing a bit of research for my aunty her relations are Vessy's her gt x 3 grandad was William Vessey bn 1756 (married Jane Mumby )Stallingborough her gt x 2 grandad was Joseph who married Mary Emmerson, does this fit on your tree?
Sue
I don't think I ever sent you the photo in Stanhope Road if you still want it I will send you it I live nearly opposite
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The graves are no longer insitu, one or 2 are free standing, the rest removed, there are 2 areas where they have survived, the first area are all relating the the Jobson family
This is from quite an old post, but I just wondered if there is anyone in or around Horncastle who could help me with photos of any remaining Jobson memorials. We were in Horncastle 2 years ago and had a look for Jobson memorials at Holy Trinity and must have missed the 'Jobson area'. My wife is descended from the Horncastle Jobson's.
many thanks
Edward
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What Jobsons are you interested in as I think there are some graves at the cemetery, I KNOW ONE OF THE jOBSONS AVE QUITE ALOT OF MONEY TO THE hORNCASTLE PEOPLE OF THE TOWN.
sUE
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In terms of the gravestones /memorials, I am interested in any relating to the Jobson family.
As far as the 'money' you mentioned, George Jobson created a charity in his will for the benefit of the people of Horncastle together with annual bequests for the singing of carols over his fathers & brothers graves, ringing of the church bells and prizes for the Grammar School. If you are interested, I'll go through his multi page will & pick out the relevant bits.
I am just rather annoyed that we didn't find the graves at Holy Trinity, hence the request for help with photos.
Edward
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I do know that eorge is buried at the cemetery because I have seen the headstone, didnt you get to the cemetery? I will pop up and take photos if you want.....My husband is a bel riner anf he gets £50 per year from the trust. I have seen a photo somewhere of this family I think they lived in Queen Street
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I believe that burials at St Mary's churchyard ceased around 1848 and Holy Trinity was then used. In 1888 the new cemetery in Boston Road came into use. George Jobson is buried with his mother (Susan) in the Boston Road cemetery.
It's the pre 1888 memorials at Holy Trinity that we missed and these may include George's father John 1886, brother John Robert 1894, grandfather William 1879, grandmother Rebecca 1865. There may well be more than these.
I have a pictures of the family with Susan & the 4 boys plus 3 wives, George never married but missing father John. Based on marriage & death dates this would date the picture to between 1886 & 1894.
George also, apparently, had the first car in Horncastle and I do have a very poor copy of this as well.
Tks for your help, it is appreciated
Happy New Year to all
Edward
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I would love to see the photo's can you put them on here or send them to me please
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Hi Dianne.
Although I have been researching the family tree for two years now, this is the first time I have used RootsChat, so I may have the procedures completely wrong, but here goes.
I notice that you have the family name Mumby, listed in your trees. My connection is through Rebecca Mumby. She married William Dawson, and they had a daughter Maria Dawson (28.7.1820).
Maria Dawson married my relative, Mark William Edwards,(1822), in 1844 at the Parish Church in Horncastle.
I have a complete history from then, up to the present day, of the Edwards line, but I have not been able to get any further back than Mark's Father ,Thomas ( 1797).
I have been to the County Archives in Lincoln, but found nothing of direct value.
Any information that you may have on the Mumby's might give me a clue. I am happy to share with you what I have, if that is of any value.
Kind regards. Mike.
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Good morning Edward I'm new to roots hat but found your entry regarding George Jobson and Horncastle. I wonder if I could acquire the photos you refer to in your previous post ... I'm researching George for a local history presentation. Many thanks in anticipation. Christine Chapman
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Hi Cfc, welcome to RootsChat :)
I have just attached your reply to hopefully the correct topic, it looks like it had gone astray with a different topic.
Regards
Sarah
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Good morning Edward I'm new to roots hat but found your entry regarding George Jobson and Horncastle. I wonder if I could acquire the photos you refer to in your previous post ... I'm researching George for a local history presentation. Many thanks in anticipation. Christine Chapman
Welcome to RC
I am quite happy to share but the photos are somewhat unique and before agreeing I would like a little more information about the presentation as I may also be able to add family information as well.
regards
Edward
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Regarding George Jobson,
I was wondering if anyone has any detailed information on him filed away that goes beyond what is available on the internet. I have not been able to locate any close family, but any corroborating offline information, such as a letter written by him for example, that may seem insignificant, would be helpful before I publish the work. Thanks all.
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Ian, please provide me with more information on your work on GJ. I am aware of a number of people who are related to him and depending on what you are doing they may, or may not, choose to talk to you.
rgds
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Hi Edward, Two research-based articles. One is about his career and is about 6,000 words. I am particularly interested in any photos, people, and the companies he worked with/for over the years. I am also doing an article about the spiritualist group he inspired, but I feel that I have enough information on that unless the family wishes to share something new. I am a professional curator and historian. This is one of my earlier articles. http://journal.sciencemuseum.ac.uk/browse/issue-04/capturing-the-song-of-the-nightingale/
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You need to make one further post and then you can send me your e-mail address in a PM.
I have some photos that I can share provided copyright is maintained and some other bits & pieces you may find interesting.
I will also have some further questions first though:-)
rgds
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Hi Edward, This is great news. The bits and pieces sound very intriguing. Copyright could be discussed once I approach the publisher since some journals allow more photos than others. I have found three family photos in total but with unknown copyright and I would prefer to remedy that situation. I am particularly interested in any photographs known to have been taken by GJ.
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Re photos taken by GJ, have you checked out the National Archives?
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I have and recently filed a remote inquiry with them to see if these are only entry forms or if there are in fact some prints filed there as well.
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There are some photos taken by him.
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That's good to hear, I have paid for the scanning service rather than going down there, but if there is more than is listed on the site I will have to.