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Title: Horncastle 1841/51/61 Census
Post by: Dianne on Sunday 15 January 06 09:00 GMT (UK)
I am looking for the family of my 4 x great grand father & mother VESSEY

Charles Vessey b.  1812  Horsington(near Horncastle)
Eliza  Vessey Born Croft  born  1818
Known children B in Horncastle
Charlotte
John
Charles
Eliza
Charlotte

DIANNE
Title: Re: Horncastle 1841/51/61 Census
Post by: 'Tricia on Sunday 15 January 06 09:08 GMT (UK)
1851

Green Lane Horncastle

Charles Vessey,Head age 38 Lab Malster born Horsington, Lincolnshire
Eliza,wife age 34 born Croft, Lincolnshire
John  son age 9 born Horncastle Lincs
Charles, son age 7 born Horncastle Lincs
Eliza Vessey,dau age 5 born Horncastle, Lincolnshire
William,son age 3 born Horncastle Lincs
George son age 2 born Horncastle Lincolnshire
Joseph son age 5 months born Horncastle Lincolnshire


HO107/2107 Horncastle Folio 128 Page 44

Tricia
Title: Re: Horncastle 1841/51/61 Census
Post by: 'Tricia on Sunday 15 January 06 09:24 GMT (UK)
1861

Green Lane Horncastle

Charles Vessey,Head age 48 Labouring Malster b. Hassingham, Lincolnshire
Eliza Vessey,wife age 44 b. Croft, Lincolnshire
John Vessey,son age 19 Plumber b.Horncastle, Lincolnshire
Charles Vessey,son age 17 Whitesmith b. Horncastle, Lincolnshire
Eliza Vessey,dau age 15 b.Horncastle, Lincolnshire
William son age 13 born  Horncastle
George son age 12 born Horncastle Lincs
Mary Vessey,dau age10 b. Horncastle, Lincolnshire
Rachel Vessey,dau age 7  b. Horncastle, Lincolnshire
Sarah Vessey,dau age  5 born 1856  Horncastle, Lincolnshire
Alice Vessey dau age 2 b. Horncastle, Lincolnshire

RG9/2366 Horncastle Folio 50 Page 19

Tricia
Title: Re: Horncastle 1841/51/61 Census
Post by: 'Tricia on Sunday 15 January 06 09:36 GMT (UK)
There is a Charlotte Vessey born 1849 on the 1851 census born Panton, Horncastle with a different family.

tricia
Title: Re: Horncastle 1841/51/61 Census
Post by: Tony Drew on Sunday 15 January 06 09:43 GMT (UK)
This is not truly Horncastle, but John William Sizer born about 1865 at Addlethorpe married a Naomi Vessey, she died about 1941 in Kirton End, Nr. Boston.   Vessey was not a name associated with Kirton - I know I was born there in 1935, so I guess they came from elsewhere.
Title: Re: Horncastle 1841/51/61 Census
Post by: Dianne on Sunday 15 January 06 10:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Tricia
Once again you have been good to me.I never realized that My GGG grandfather Charles had so many children . Poor Eliza.

Poor me, I will have enough research to keep me out of mischief for years.

I have just found on the BMD Charlotte Died 1941 HORNCASTLE Never thought to look for her  death at  1 year old.

The other Charlotte you found  Panton  B 1849 .Would her parent s be Joseph & Mary if so ,this is  the above Charles,s father William,s brother Joseph who was born  in 1787 married  in 1822
What I cant understand is  Charlotte being born so long after they married  Can  you give me a look up for this.. Don't tell me have a large family too.

Much appreciated for your wonderful work.
DIANNE


Title: Re: Horncastle 1841/51/61 Census
Post by: Dianne on Sunday 15 January 06 10:49 GMT (UK)
Hello Tony.
 I always thought Vessey, my maiden name would have been an easy name to research until I got started. You can see by Tricia,s   above Census list they were big breeders
In my researching I have not come across A Naiomi Vessey, Most of them came from Lincolnshire, but I would think that most of the Vesseys in England would be connected somehow. My grand dad  Vessey immigrated to New Zealand  1910. only ones in our Telephone book are relations.
Thank you for your imput

DIANNE.
Title: Re: Horncastle 1841/51/61 Census
Post by: 'Tricia on Sunday 15 January 06 11:13 GMT (UK)
Her youngest on here was born when she was 45 - as you said - big breeders ;D ;D

1851 census

Living Panton - no address recorded

Joseph Vessey,Head age 58 Agric Lab b. Grasby, Lincolnshire
Mary Vessey,wife age 47 born  Lincolnshire
 Charles Vessey,son age 21 Agric Lab b. East Kirkby, Lincolnshire
Jane Vessey,dau age 15 born abt 1836  Panton, Lincolnshire
Moses Vessey,son age 13 b. Panton, Lincolnshire
William Vessey,son age 10 born  Panton, Lincolnshire
Emma Vessey,dau age 8 born Panton, Lincolnshire
Thomas Vessey,son age 6 born Panton, Lincolnshire
Charlotte Vessey,dau age 2 b.Panton, Lincolnshire

HO107/2107 \Horncastle Folio Folio 49 Page 2


Probably others not at home :-\

Tricia
 
 
Title: Re: Horncastle 1841/51/61 Census
Post by: Dianne on Tuesday 17 January 06 09:26 GMT (UK)
Hi Trish, Thank you again for the ABOVE Panton Census.
You dont know how much enjoyment you have given me in  finding these names for me. I have never been able to  get access to these Census.s except  for 1881/91/01 and I have always  had to go  to F.H Centre and send away for films taking weeks to arrive  & possible the  wrong ones.Although I have most details of my VESSEY Tribe you have given me extra children I did not know of.
Could you give me  A Census look up for

 Mary Jane Vessey  & Twin Sarah  Ann Born 1831  GRASBY 
 Parents (Charles Vessey B 1806 Grasby Eliza 1804  Grasby



John Maddison  Married 1823
 WIFE Mary  Maddison (Vessey) B 1796 Parents William Vessey & Jane (Mumby)


George Vessey B1793 Grasby
Wife Maria (Mumby)
They had a Charles Vessey B 1824 Grasby

Do hope I am not  imposing on  you.
Bye
DIANNE
Title: Re: Horncastle 1841/51/61 Census
Post by: 'Tricia on Tuesday 17 January 06 09:49 GMT (UK)
Hi, Dianne,

Glad you are pleased. It's quite exciting when you find them, isn't it?  You are certainly not imposing - this is what we come on here to do.

1851

Old Chapel Lane Laceby, Lincolnshire

Thomas Smith, Head age 32 Agric Lab  born Laceby, Lincolnshire
Harriet Smith Wife, age 33  Laceby  Lincolnshire 
Eliza Smith,dau age 6 Laceby, Lincolnshire
Charles Smith,son age 3 Laceby, Lincolnshire
Edwin Smith,son age 1 Laceby, Lincolnshire
Sarah A Vessey,visitor age 19 Dressmaker Grasby, Lincolnshire

HO107/2113 Caistor  Folio 459 Page 29

Tricia
Title: Re: Horncastle 1841/51/61 Census
Post by: 'Tricia on Tuesday 17 January 06 10:03 GMT (UK)
1851 census

North Grange High Street  Horkstow  Lincolnshire 

Francis Spencer,Head age 4, Farm Baliff tothe ...(?) Mrs Shirley Tuprt(?), 476 acres employing 12 men, born Crosby, Lincolnshire
Elizabeth Spencer,wife age 62 Broughton, Lincolnshire
John Hollingsworth,servant age 22 Farm labourer born Bonby, Lincolnshire
Edward Robinson,servant age 16 Farm labourer Killingholme, Lincolnshire
John Stamford,servant age 20 Farm Labourer born  Horkstow, Lincolnshire
 Mary Jane Vessey,servant age 19 House servant born Grassby, Lincolnshire

HO107/2118 Glanford Brigg Folio 383 Page 1

Might even be Honourable Mrs Whatsit but it is difficult to read :)

Tricia
Title: Re: Horncastle 1841/51/61 Census
Post by: Geoff E on Tuesday 17 January 06 10:11 GMT (UK)
Here's 1841

637-12/7
Green Lane, Horncastle
Charles VESSEY 28 AgLab
Eliza 28
Charlotte 1
All born Lincs

and the Panton lot

641-23/4
Panton
Joseph VESSEY 40 AgLab
Mary 35
Rachael 15
Charles 12
George 9
Jane 5
Moses 3
William 6m
George LAMMING 17? MaleServ
James LEAMAN 25 AgLab
Not Known, above 20

Re your Grasby twins

burial
Mary Jane 27 Oct 1854 (22)
Charles 25 Dec 1847 (40)

1841
635-9/8
Grasby
Charles VESSY 30 AgLab
Eliza 35
Sarah 9
Mary 9
Born Lincs
Title: Re: Horncastle 1841/51/61 Census
Post by: 'Tricia on Tuesday 17 January 06 10:13 GMT (UK)
Wow, Geoff ;D And they aren't not even my family!

What a lucky girl she is

1851 census

Eliza Vessey age 47 born Grasby is a widow living in Grasby, occupation Charwoman No address recorded.

HO107/2114 Caistor Folio 110 Page 14

Wonder if she re-married

Tricia
Title: Re: Horncastle 1841/51/61 Census
Post by: 'Tricia on Tuesday 17 January 06 10:24 GMT (UK)
There is a Mary Maddison on the 1851 born Croft 1800, Married, School Mistress. - Could this be her?

Husband not with her. Do you know his details

Tricia

Update  Husband is Edmund on 1861 - forget that

Where was Mary born?
Title: Re: Horncastle 1841/51/61 Census
Post by: 'Tricia on Tuesday 17 January 06 10:50 GMT (UK)
Could this be George? Age not right :-\

1851 census

29 ....(?) - nothing recorded, Horkstow  Lincolnshire 

 
George Vessey,Head age 44 Cattle Dealer born Grasby, Lincolnshire
Mary Vessey,wife age born Broughton, Lincolnshire

RG9/2404 Glanford Brigg 
Folio: 95 
Page: 22

Tricia
Title: Re: Horncastle 1841/51/61 Census
Post by: 'Tricia on Tuesday 17 January 06 10:54 GMT (UK)
More questions than answers

Wife Maria (Mumby

There is a Maria Vessey  Widow age 77 born 1784 Fleet
Mother in law to Thomas and Harriet Smith(b. 1818 Caistor)
living Laceby, Lincs

Tricia ???
Title: Re: Horncastle 1841/51/61 Census
Post by: Geoff E on Tuesday 17 January 06 11:54 GMT (UK)

Might even be Honourable Mrs Whatsit but it is difficult to read :)

The Hon Mrs Wotsit (from Devon) is on Folio 389 - I'm still not sure of her name (nor do I care really) - Thomas ROBINSON 21 born Clixby may be easier to find if you want to look.

Although they are spelt differently, having a 'Tricia and a Trisha around the place is starting to confuse me  :-\
Title: Re: Horncastle 1841/51/61 Census
Post by: 'Tricia on Tuesday 17 January 06 12:06 GMT (UK)
Oh, you poor little soul ;D Good job they aren't spelt the same, then.

Here, are you Geoff Everitt?

Tricia
Title: Re: Horncastle 1841/51/61 Census
Post by: Geoff E on Tuesday 17 January 06 12:32 GMT (UK)
Here, are you Geoff Everitt?

It would be confusing if I wasn't wouldn't it?  :D My cover appears to be blown.

(Apologies to Dianne for idle chit-chat!)
Title: Re: Horncastle 1841/51/61 Census
Post by: 'Tricia on Tuesday 17 January 06 12:42 GMT (UK)
Another time, another place ,another site ;) ;) ;) ;)

Tricia
Title: Re: Horncastle 1841/51/61 Census
Post by: Dianne on Wednesday 18 January 06 05:10 GMT (UK)
Hello Tricia. I wonder where my last messages I sent went to  I did a question and answer to you, about different queries you had asked also a thank you  to you and Geoff for his imput and comical "ChitChat comments. I wonder who got the messages.

Never mind I  will ask another one,

On the 1851 Census Of the "The Honourable Mrs Whatsits"  farmthere is a servant Mary Jane Vessey age 19 TWIN died aged 23
I have that her twin sister Sarah Ann married a Thomas Hollingsworth B 1835 BONBY could this have been the brother of John also a servant at this farm. also Elizabeth Spencer was the mother of Mary Spencer who married my George Vessey Born 1814 Horsington brother to the twins father Charles VesseyB1812 Horsington

Could you look up  A Census for me  must be brothers.

JOHN HOLLINSWORTH  BORN  1829 BONBY
THOMAS HOLLINGSWORTH BORN 1835 BONBY.

THANKING YOU
DIANNE
 I do wonder who got those messages I sent to you. They took me quite a while to look up.  Bye.
 
Title: Re: Horncastle 1841/51/61 Census
Post by: Geoff E on Wednesday 18 January 06 09:19 GMT (UK)
I found these in 1841

628-9/7
Bonby
Thomas HOLLINGSWORTH 30 AgLab
Pleasant 30
Shilo? 10 (female)
William 8
Thomas 6
Mary 4

628-9/9
Ellen 15 FemServ


In the neighbouring village of Horkstow - first name unclear

637-9/6
Jn HOLLINGSWORTH 12 Groom
one of four servants on farm of John RICHARDSON
Title: Re: Horncastle 1841/51/61 Census
Post by: Geoff E on Wednesday 18 January 06 09:21 GMT (UK)
Re the message:  I normally reply to them - if I didn't on this occasion, Sorry!  :-[
Title: Re: Horncastle 1841/51/61 Census
Post by: Dianne on Wednesday 18 January 06 09:37 GMT (UK)
Thank you GEOFF E for the above info.
Some more names to my TREE.

Dont worry about your reply I,m more concerned about where my reply went  it hasnt appeared on my site. Whose got it ?. I had spent quite some time looking up my family tree so I could answer Tricias question  So many Williams Charles & Elizas it was becoming a bit confusing Some of my VESSEY FAMILY had 10/12  kids,all named after parents brothers mothers & aunts.
I had so many replies coming in yesterday  it was hard to remember if I had answered them all

Great Site

DIANNE
Title: Re: Horncastle 1841/51/61 Census
Post by: Geoff E on Wednesday 18 January 06 11:09 GMT (UK)
When you send a message to someone, you have no record of it UNLESS you tick the "Save a copy to my outbox" box underneath the message.
Title: Re: Horncastle 1841/51/61 Census
Post by: Dianne on Wednesday 18 January 06 11:40 GMT (UK)
Geoff
I always just press the the POST BUTTON  after a request and it automatically comes up on site so my researcher and my self can both view  and read it for reference. I usuallly print them off anyway It has never happened before.

Thanks for your help
DIANNE
Title: Re: Horncastle 1841/51/61 Census
Post by: Dianne on Wednesday 18 January 06 12:09 GMT (UK)
GEOFF E

Would you be able to look the same HOLLINGSWORTH  family on the 1851 & 61 Census. I feel quite sure Thomas Hollingsworths wifes  name wouldn,t be Pleasant ? or son/daughters name  be Shilo?
Thank you

DIANNE
Title: Re: Horncastle 1841/51/61 Census
Post by: Geoff E on Wednesday 18 January 06 12:57 GMT (UK)
1851

2118/414
Bonby
Thomas HOLLINSWORTH 44 Carrier, Crosby
Pesant 45  ;D
William 18 Bricklayer
Thomas 15 Bricklayer
Atkinson 11
Frederick 9
Jane 6
Robert 3
Charles 3
Others born Bonby

The IGI has (only)
Thomas 28 June 1835
Mary Anne 16 July 1837
as children of Thomas and Pleasant HOLLINGSWORTH


Title: Re: Horncastle 1841/51/61 Census
Post by: Dianne on Wednesday 18 January 06 13:12 GMT (UK)
GEOFF E
 Another search well done. I wonder what happened to    SHILO ??

DIANNE
Title: Re: Horncastle 1841/51/61 Census
Post by: 'Tricia on Wednesday 18 January 06 20:31 GMT (UK)
Hi, Dianne,

Don't know what happenes to your messages but I haven't received any. This has happened before though sometimes they turn up in 'batches' 2/3 days after they were sent.

Tricia :(