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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Hampshire & Isle of Wight => Topic started by: Infobunny on Tuesday 10 January 06 19:48 GMT (UK)
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Hi there,
On the lookout for information about the Finey family who moved from Pagham, Sussex to the Emsworth/Warblington area and may ultimately have ended up in Portsmouth. I am positive all Fineys in this area are related but I have some broken branches on my tree. I have a fair amount of info on one line but come to a halt with the children of Soloman and Tamar Page (Harris) Finey. Soloman's son (also called Soloman) walked out on his family in Portsmouth in 1882 and emigrated to NZ (my gg-gf). Family info has that when Tamar died all the inheritance went to the two other children that we aren't sure who they were. One may have been John Finey (b. 1852?) and the other may have been Elizabeth (unsure if she survived infancy).
What has happened to all of the Fineys?
Thanks
Infobunny (NZ)
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Hi Infobunny,
Welcome to Rootschat.
John Finey (aged 29 b Emsworth) is definitely in Portsea in 1881, with his wife (aged 28 b Portsea) Emily. No children. (RG11/1157/41 p31 - index and transcript available to search free at http://www.familysearch.org)
Soloman Finey aged 27 b Portsmouth is living with his cousins? the Painter family in Portsmouth.
Frank Finey b Bersted Sussex is in Warblington, Alfred also b Bersted is in Havant and George b North Bersted is in Reading.
No links to Soloman senior show up, but I hope that helps.
Nell
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Hi Nell,
Thanks for your hard work. I have been looking (until I'm blind) on Family Search but never came up with John Finey as a married adult so that's one more leaf in my tree (yay!) and another place to begin sniffing around.
Have no idea how Frank, Alfred and George fit into the tree but I'm positive they do. I'll have to scrape Family Search dry and see how the jigsaw fits together using your information as a base.
The Soloman you found was my gg-gf a year before he left England for good. But I agree I have found no links to Soloman Sr (yet).
The whole family was involved in shipping, maybe as colliers, and were mariners. Maybe there is another board to investigate.
Thanks again
Infobunny
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Hi Infobunny
I'm in Adelaide and for 10 years I have been doing research for peopleall over the world who want information about South Australia in the early days.
I saw your request re the Finey family and decided to see if I could find some information for you when I was in the South Australian records.
I have foud a lot of information, but when I typed it up I sent it to you at your email address, so you may already have received it. I didn't realise there was a limit on how many letters one can print in their information, so I am sending it again, and will send what I found in bits:- e.g. part one part two etc. etc. etc.
PART ONE.
APPLICATION FOR FREE PASSAGE TO SOUTH AUSTRALIA.
Application No. 1981 Francis Finey, occupation labourer ex Littlehampton, married, aged 35 years, wife Maria aged under 50 years, son Robert aged under 14 years, Stephen, son aged under 7 years, Jane, daughter aged under 21 years and Edward, son aged under 7 years resided in District "B" in South Australia during the 1841 Census.
Also APPLICATION FOR FREE PASSAGE TO SOUTH AUSTRALIA.
Catherine Finey, occupation Servant of "Littlehampton" single, ged 15 years, applied for a free passage to South Australia. Application No. 2153, Embarkation No. 1342.
DISTRICT "B"
District "B" was lying chiefly to the Southwrd of the Town (i.e. Adelaide) and separated by Secion "A" on the westward of the town by road to Glenelg.
BAPTISM
in the 1841 Census in South Australia (the first census taken) the following can be found in the baptismal records:-
Edward Lloyds born 28th August 1938 son of Francis Finey and Maria of Glenelg, baptised in Holy Trinity Church, Adelaide
HOLY TRINITY CHURCH IN ADELAIDE.
In 1841, there was only one church in Adelaide, that being holy Trinity Church which still survives, and is still used in North Terrace, Adelaide.
Because it was the first church in Adelaide, it was the only place people could have their children baptised, or be married, or have a funeral.
MARRIAGES OF CHILDREN OF FRANCIS FINEY & MARIA.
1. Joseph Liddiard of Glenelg, late of Poplar Middlesex England married Catherine Finey of Glenelg, late of Arundel sussex England on 12th October 1840.
2. Stephen Finey aged 26 years son of Francis Finey married 21st March 1860 to Emily Ann aged 20 years, marital status not recorded, daughter of John Oates at Holy Trinity Church, Adelaide Dis. Adelaide reference book 1 page 91 symbol "V" denoting a variation in the information has been found by the Registar.
3. Edward Lloyd, of ful, age, marital status not recorded son of Francis Finey marrid 21st May 1865 to Emily Rhoda Crafer, of full age, marital status not recorded, daughter of David Crafer at St. Jude Church, Brighton District Adelaide reference book 62 page 489 symbol "A" denoting (1) The Registar has included additional information on this mariage record and/or (2) The Registar has made an amendment to information on this marriage record.
4. Stephen ged 26yeras son of Stephen Finey married 21st July 1891 to Annie Hecht aged 23 years, single, daughter fo John Hecht at Wesleyan Church, Hoyleton, District Upper Wakefield reference book 168 page 418
5. Henry aged 20 yeras, single, son fo Samuel Lomman married 19th June 1895 to Maria Jane aged 21years, single, daughter of Stephen Finley at St. Matthew Church, Kensington District Norwood. reference book 183 page 1081
I'm very new to researching requests on the ROOTSCHAT site, so I will send children to the above marriages, and death records on another message reply instead of sending too much on one reply.
I hope that is alright with you.
Regards
Twinkleberry
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Hi
2nd part of the information coming up!!
CHILDREN BORN TO STEPHEN FINEY & EMILY ANN OATES. -ALL CHILDREN WERE BORN IN BRIGHTON, SOUTH AUSTRALIA
1. Adelaide May born 28th May 1878 at Brighton, District Adelaide reference book 201 page 414
2. Albert George born 9th November 1889 reference book 109 page 17
3. Arthur Lloyd born 4th May 1972 reference book 109 page 17
4. Edith Emily born 4th March 1870 reference book 80 page 209
5. Edward John born 24th January 1863 reference book 27 page 109
6. Francis born 6th January 1861 reference book 20 page 16
7. Maria Jane born 10th October 1873 reference book 127 page 305
8. Mary Selina born 31st January 1868 reference book 60 page 325
9. Stephen born 27th January 1865 District Adelaide reference book 3 page 145
CHILDREN BORN TO HENRY LOMMAN & MARIA JANE FINLEY
1. Bernice Emily born 3rd August 1899 North Kensington District Norwood (nowhere near Brighton) reference book 645 page 191
2. Clematis Edith born 9th May 1904 Norwood, District Norwood reference book 730 page 38
3. Harry Clifford born 9th May 1897 at Payneham District Norwood reference book 603 page 445
4. Hazel Ruth born 13th September 1901 at Kensington District Norwood reference book 683 page 359
5. Athur Leslie born 2nd September 1893 at Brighton, District Adelaide reference book 528 pge 263
CHILDREN BORN TO STEPHEN FINEY & ANNIE HECHT
1. Bertie Loyd born 6th March 1894 Clarendon District Morphett Vale reference book 538 page 336
2. Cecil Loyd born 31st August 1895 at Happy Valley Dis. Morphett Vale reference book 570 page 304 symbol "S" denoting (1) The Registrar has included supplementary information on this birth record
3. Donald Lloyds born 27th October 1879 at Happy Valley Dis. Morphett Vale reference book 610 page 412
4. Elsie Lloyd born 4th August 1899 at Brighton, District Adelaide reference book 643 page 229
5. Florrie Lloyd born 4th Octobr 1904 at Brighton, District Adelaide reference book 735 page 333
CHILDREN BORN TO EDWARD LLOYD FINLEY & EMILY RHODA CRAFER.
1. Charlotte Mary born 17th Septembr 1871 at Hoyles Plains, District Upper Wakefield reference book 100 page 52
2. Edward david born 21th May 1865 Brighton, District Adelaide reference book 33 pge 306
3. Laura Emily born 20th April 1874 at Hoyles Plains District Upper Wakefield reference book 134 page 138
4. Myra Kate born 15th March 1879 at Lower Wakefield District Upper Wakefield reference book 216 page 275 symbol "E" the registar has found an error in the information on this birth record.
5. Percy francis Lloyd born 13th November 1881 at near Hoyleton District Upper Wakefield reference book 270 page 483.
6. Walter Stephen born 18th August 1876 place of birth not recorded, District Upper Wakefield. reference book 171 page 203
I still have a list of deaths which I found in the Library, so I am forwarding them as well, but I will send it on a separate email.
I hope that is alright with you.
Regards
Heather
7. Maria Jane born 10th October 1873
8. Mary Selina born 31st January 1868
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Hi again.
The following is the list of deaths which I found when I was in the South Aus. State Library yesterday.
DEATHS.
1. John William aged 55 years of McLaren Vale died 11th July 1898 at Adelaide, informant not recorded, District Adelaide reference book 253 pae 28 symbol "H" denoting John William died in a hospital.
1. Emily Ann aged 42 years of Brighton died 28th April 1883 at Brighton, wife of Stephen Finey District Adelaide refernce book 127 page 483
2. Francis aged 66 years of Brighton died 29th October 1860 at Brighton,
informant not recorded, District Adelaide referenc ebook 9 page 292
3. Maria aged 65 years of Brighton died 21st August 1866 at Brighton, widow of Francis Finney District Adelaide reference book 72 page 323
4. Mary Selina aged 7 years of Brighton died 4th January 1876 at Brighton, daughter of Francis Finey District Adelaide referrence book 72 page 323
5. Stephen aged 81 years of Brighton died 4th October 1915 at Brighton Informant not recorded, District Adelaide reference book 395 page 594
6. Arthur Leslie aged 24 days of Brighton died 26th September 1893 at Brighton, son of Marie Jane Finey District Adelaide reference book 213 page 136
7. Arthur Lloyd aged 3 months of Brighton died 23rd August 1872 at Brighton, District Adelaide refeence book 48 page 521
8. Edith Emily aged 8 yers of Brighton died 24th April 1878 at Brighton, informant not recorded, District Adelaide reference book 87 page 521
9. Edward John aged 14 months of Brighton died 10th April 1864 at Brighton, son of Stephen Finey District Adelaide reference book 15 pge 374
10. Henry William aged 2 years and 5 months of Brighton died 15th April 1878 at Brighton, informant not recorded, District Adelaide reference book 86 page 486
11. Hilda Lloyd aged 1 year and 6 months of Brighton died 17th January 1911 at Brighton, District Adelaide reference book 354 page 338
12. Mary aged 20 years of Brighton died 26th January 1864 at Brighton, daughter of francis Finey District Adelaide reference book 15 page 300 symbol 'S" denoting the Registar has included supplementary information on this birth record.
BOOK AND PAGE REFERENCE NOS.
By providing the book and page reference nos. on any b.d.m. record, you wil get a (small) discount on each Certificate you purchase here in Adelaide. The Certificates in Adelaide are somewhere near $37.00 each.,
I hope the above is of some help.
Regards
Twinkleberry
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Hi Twinkleberry,
Oh! You are a most kind and generous person! :o I am overwhelmed by your attention to a matter as small as mine....but by no means ungrateful. On the contrary, I'm flabbergasted to be honest. This is precious information that I will carefully match up against what I have for my Oz Finey's.
Thank you so much for all of your hard work. It is very much appreciated. You totally rock! ;D
Now if only my English Finey's would fall out of the woodwork as easily as the Oz ones appear to have done.
(Cottontail almost popping off in excitement)
Bunny 8)
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Hi. Are u still looking at Finey f/t. I have it written out. Im in Auckland
cheers
Linda (mum was Reay Edna nee Finey)
ps George Finey moved to Sydney from NZ and sister Dolly. He was a characturist for the Sydney Times in the 1920s
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No doubt you have this already:
Hampshire Telegraph and Sussex Chronicle etc (Portsmouth, England), Wednesday, September 28, 1870; Issue 3977:
Deaths
On the 24th inst (September) at Emsworth, Mr. Solomon Finey, Master Mariner, late of Fleet Street, Southsea, aged 51.
Hampshire Telegraph and Sussex Chronicle etc (Portsmouth, England), Saturday, July 15, 1899; Issue 4617
DEATHS
FINEY: on the 8th July, at East Leigh Havant, Frederick, the youngest son of the late Charles Finey, aged 47 years.
This local paper available through British libraries with the aid of a library ticket, or online from libraries, just join one from abroad, has many examples of the Finey family in Portsmouth-a J Finey was a freemason, a member of Portsmouth swimming club, and a Finey in the 1860's was given an award for rescuing a person from drowning whilst serving in the Royal Navy in Jamaica.
Tom
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Hi Tom,
Hey, thanks for that awesome information! :D I had dates but no sources so that's added something real to my pile. You rock!!! 8)
I didn't know you could join a library from abroad! Wow! Maybe I'll look into that. I swear all of these Finey's are related but I obviously have gaps to see just where they all connect together.
Forever on the trail....
Cheers
Bunny 8)
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Hi, Have just been doing some research and have come across your site, I am a descendant of Stephen Finey Jnr and Anna Maria Hecht, so was so happy to find lots of info on my family, all the info ties up with what I have already got. It appears that Francis and Maria Finey came to Australia on the Ship "Lloyds from Gravesend on 1 August 1838 carrying 181 passengers who had applied for free passage to the new Colony of South Australia. Hence some of the members of the family have Lloyd/Lloyds as there second name, as does my grandmother Elsie Lloyd. Hope this bit of info helps. Sorry does not help you find your New Zealand people.
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Hi Lesm,
Hey! It's nice to see you on the site! WELCOME!!! ;D ;D
And since you are a cuzzie of mine - YAY! Big hugs from NZ!!!
Thanks for the wee bit of info that I can use to tidy up some details. No worries at all on which line you belong to - you are still family!!! And that's so cool! ;D
I haven't managed to find you yet. I only have three kids of Elsie's - M, C and J, so I'm unsure if I have all the family yet. I have heaps of Aussie's on my tree from your line...only because they were easier to find than mine!!!
Okay since you are here....if you make two more postings on Rootschat you will see a little wee green scroll-type figure appear below your user name on your posts. It's used by members to communicate privately so sensitive information can be shared and stuff like that. So please, please keep chatting on here so that maybe I can get to know you and your family better and other things. Of course it is entirely your choice. Oh wait, I can see it already...man, I am such a ditz! :D
Honestly, meeting family on this site is the BEST thing about it. That, and all the super helpful people you will find here.
Cheers
Bunny 8)