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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cambridgeshire => Topic started by: MUD on Sunday 08 January 06 17:08 GMT (UK)
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Hi. Newbie here. I'm at the early stages of researching this - I can find some census and BMD info, but if anyone has info on the following, up or down, I'd be more than grateful :
George Pryke, b. abt. 1818 in Lidgate, Suffolk. Married Elizabeth Howe in 1838, Newmarket, and settled in Kirtling, Cambs.
Their daughter Julia Pryke married a William Lomas, groom/stablehand/domestic servant in 1884, Newmarket. I'm particularly interested in William, but 2 censuses show different birthplaces - Wolverhampton and Muchley, Shropshire...
I have various siblings listed if the surnames ring any bells.
TIA
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Hi :)
If you let us know which census info you have, we can fill in the blanks, so we're not duplicating things you've already got.
Have you got Williams and Julias marriage cert? Maybe we can find him as a child on the census with his parents if you havent already got this....
Catherine :)
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Hello and welcome to RootsChat :) :)
If you give us some idea of the census information you already have, we will try and help you with the missing ones :)
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Welcome Mud :D
Let me know if you want them looking for in 1841
Cheers Jan ;)
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Thanks for the replies and the welcome.
Hope I'm doing right by replying to 3 replies in one post...
I have no BMD Certs yet - I'm getting all the free info possible, then I'll order certs for any brick walls that I come up against.
I have the marriage ref. for William and Julia - Newmarket, 3b 691 (this may prove to be brick wall #1)
I have 1891 and 1901 census data for William & Julia (Crofton, Bucks and Kentford)
1861 and 1881 census for the George Pryke household - Kirtling.
I also have the marriage of George P and Elizabeth Howe, June 1838, and the death record for George Pryke Dec 1890, Newmarket 3b 349.
TIA for any more help.
Mark
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Do you have William Lomas in 1881 - RG11/1675 Folio 45 Page 37 at 1 Pecks Cotts, Newmarket All Saints, Cambridgeshire (birthplace Shrops Kemberton)
Regards
Catherine :)
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1841
Green, Kirtling
George Prike 20 Bl Sm
Elizabeth do 20
Susan do 3
Rhoda do 8mnths
All except George born in county
HO107/65/3 Pg17
Assume Bl Sm is short for Blacksmith
Cheers Jan ;)
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I saw that, but the age was a bit out, and on the 2 later censuses where 'my' William is with Julia, his birthplace is Wolverhampton (1891) and Muchley (Shropshire)... I checked the map, and Kemberton and Muchley are far enough apart that they're not the same place, IYSWIM... I haven't discounted him - it's just that there's no evidence to link him yet. As he's on my direct line, I'll probably order a marriage cert for him and Julia, and hope that pins him down.
Thanks
Mark
Do you have William Lomas in 1881 - RG11/1675 Folio 45 Page 37 at 1 Pecks Cotts, Newmarket All Saints, Cambridgeshire (birthplace Shrops Kemberton)
Regards
Catherine :)
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I have an Elizabeth How - b abt 1818, Kirtling -- but no other details. I am descended from one of her siblings.
The How name seems to acquired and 'e' in the early 1800's, though not all descendants have the 'e'.
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A bit of a long shot but was wondering if those reading this thread (who are clearly experts in the field) can tie any of their family trees to my great-grandfather Francis Howe who was born in Kirtling on 6.1.1881.He was the son of George Howe ,a farm labourer,and Eliza Howe (nee Leach).
I've only recently started tracing back my tree and any tips/links/data sources appreciated eg how do I find the birth certificate of George Howe ? (I've found the FreeBMD website which is v helpful and keeps the costs of certificates down) but how can I decide if he's the one registered in Newmarket in Q4 1851 or George William Howe registered in Newmarket in Q1 1861 or neither of these !
Thanks in advance
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Hi
Welcome to Rootschat :D To get maximum help I suggest you start a new topic for your family. Meanwhile this should help decide which George Howe you need.
Jan
1891
The Street/Cottage Kirtling
George Howe Head M 56 Agricultural Laborer Kirtling
Eliza do Wife 54 Kirtling
John do Son S 18 Agricultural Laborer Kirtling
Owen do do 17 do do do
Frederick do do 15 do do do
Francis do do 9 Scholar do
RG12/1292/79 Pg24
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1841
HOW
George - 35 - ag lab
Susan - 30
Rhoda - 12
Ann - 9
George - 6
Mary - 4
Lottie - 2
John - 6 months
HO107/65/3 - Kirtling
Folio 20
Page 15
As George was born before civil registration (1837) there will be no birth cert. You could try and find a baptism in the Kirtling parish registers.
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From Boyds marriage index and the IGI
Geo HOW
Susan CLAYDON
1827 - Kirtling
25th October
also according to the IGI
George HOW baptised 18th May,1834 at Kirtling.
:D :D
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Thanks for all the help Janan and Suepip - detailed and quick !
As half-expected, "my" George Howe was neither of the two I first suspected !
Looks like I'll be planning a day trip to Kirtling !
Thanks once again.
Adrian
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Heres some more from IGI
Susey CLAIDON
bap. 24th May,1807
daughter of William and Hannah
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From IGI
A possible marriage
William CLAIDEN
Hannah COCKERTON
6th December,1803
Weston Colville,Cambridgeshire
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From IGI
George HOW bap. 25th September,1803 at Kirtling, the son of William and Alice
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I am descended from George How(e) and Susan Claydon.
I'll be happy to share what gedcom information I have on the How(e) line back to William How b abt 1730 and Mary Mingay.
I have no links on my tree to the Pryke family, but do have a baptism of an Elizabeth Howe in 1818 who may possibly have married George Pryke in 1838.
Elizabeth was the younger sister of George How b 1803 who married Susan Claydon
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I am researching my family history which leads me to Kirtling with a family by the name of Howe.
My great great Grandfather Thomas Harry Kent bigamously married a Mary Howe in 1872 and had several children with him four of which were baptised in the Kirtling parish church between 1863 and 1870. Mary is the daughter of George and Susan Howe whose other children included Lettice, John, William and James. I am wondering if this is the same family that you mention above and if we are connected. If so I would be keen to swap family details if appropriate and find out more about the Cambridgeshire side of my family. Address in the 1861 census was School Road Kirtling.
My GG Grandparents lived in various locations around the country including Bristol, Central London and Kent.
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My GGGF was William How(e) . His parents were George How and Susan Claidon (Claydon) George and Susan apparently had two daughters called Mary, one b 1837, the other b 1857.
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Hi
I had to double-check there, I have Pryke and Claydon in my family tree - Hannah and Susannah Claydon, and a George Pryke, but they're in the wrong area, and a few years later than mine :)
My Claydons and Prykes are all from West Tofts, Norfolk. Not that far away really, somewhere along the line our paths may cross.
Rosemary
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My GGGF was William How(e) . His parents were George How and Susan Claidon (Claydon) George and Susan apparently had two daughters called Mary, one b 1837, the other b 1857.
My GGGrandmother Mary was born 1837 , must be a sister to your GGGF William. I have yet to discover how she met my GGGrandfather Thomas Harry Kent @ 1862 I guess but they married in 1872 in Bristol after having had four children before this marriage. All four were baptized in Kirtling church between 1863 and 1870 . They lived in various places in and around London. They had two more children in Bristol before returning to London. However, Thomas Harry Kent was previously married in 1855 to an Eliza Bedford and had three children with her. She was still living with one of those children in 1871 and with another child in 1881 , 1891 and 1901!! So I have to conclude a bigamous marriage to Mary. In the 1871 census Mary is entered as Abincas (birthplace Kirtling) living with Thomas Harry and two of their children and two of the children from his first marriage. (This is how I tied them up). I would love to hear any family lore concerning the Howe family . Ending on a sweeter note, one of Thomas and Mary's sons called Albert Ernest b 1872 ended up as the chief Fire Officer for Swanscombe in Kent and was a highly regarded dignitary by the town. But that's another story.
Thanks