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Title: 1851/1861 census for JOHN SMITH !!
Post by: Gillian Jones on Sunday 08 January 06 16:42 GMT (UK)
Yes folks I know what you're thinking - she's got to be joking with a name like that!!
I know it's a long shot but I'm wondering if there is some crazy person out there who likes a challenge??
My gt.gt.gt. grandfather John Smith was born in Surfleet c1785 and married a Sarah Fairchild also from Surfleet.
I do have his name on his son's marriage certificate and he is down as being a grover (least I don't think it's a grocer but it's a little hard to read )I was just wondering if he's mentioned in the 1851 or 1861 census and what is down for his occupation.
Realize this is probabely a ridiculous request,but thought it was worth a try
Title: Re: 1851/1861 census for JOHN SMITH !!
Post by: Genegenee on Saturday 03 March 07 19:45 GMT (UK)
OK - Call me one ancestor short of a tree I can take it lol.

On the 1851 census there are only 4 J & S Smith's born in Lincolnshire with his DOB being either 1793 Louth, 1790 Branston, 1778 Bettes? & 1789Billinghay.

Are you sure they are both still alive by 1851?

DOB's are round up by upto 5 years in the 1851 census plus allow for poor memory's

GG
Title: Re: 1851/1861 census for JOHN SMITH !!
Post by: Geoff E on Saturday 03 March 07 20:05 GMT (UK)
DOB's are round up by upto 5 years in the 1851 census plus allow for poor memory's

???

Ages are (in theory) correct in 1851 but were supposedly rounded DOWN in 1841.

I'm afraid the references on the IGI for John born c1785 and Sarah c1789 are total fabrications.  The only facts are the date and place of marriage.  The dates are just assumptions based on possible ages of 25 and 21 at marriage.  There is no basis to assume they were both from Surfleet just because they married there.

The mystery birthplace in Genegenee's post is (I think) Bottesford which is far away near Scunthorpe.

Another possible occupation would be Drover.
Title: Re: 1851/1861 census for JOHN SMITH !!
Post by: Beckey on Sunday 04 March 07 11:44 GMT (UK)
Hi,
This is at Surfleet.
Bapt.
8/9/1813 Samuel s of John & Sarah Smith  of Surfleet  Farmer.
19/3/1815 Edward s of John & Sarah Smith  of Seasend  Farmer.
15/5/1817  Fanny d of John & Sarah Smith of Seasend  Lab.
9/5/1819 Ann d of John & Sarah Smith  of Seasend Lab.  Buried 25/4/1820 age 1.
24/2/1821 Ann d of John & Sarah Smith  of Seasend  Lab.
27/6/1824 Elizabeth d of John & Sarah Smith of Surfleet  Lab.

Burial Surfleet.
3/4/1865 John Smith of Surfleet Risegate  78.

Didn't find a Sarah.

Marriage 1/10/1832 Edward Smith bat. otp & Hannah Taylor  sp.otp  Wit James Taylor/GuyHeadson
Title: Re: 1851/1861 census for JOHN SMITH !!
Post by: Gillian Jones on Sunday 01 April 07 18:26 BST (UK)
Well I didn't expect any replies to my ridiculous request, but many thanks to you all. At least I now have some siblings for Edward.
By the way I have a photograph of the said Edward and he looks a formidable figure !!
Many Thanks again
Jill