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Title: 1891Census
Post by: Kazza on Monday 12 January 04 02:00 GMT (UK)

This is a desparate plea for help,

I am trying to trace my Paternal Great-Grandfather Isaac Hole.  I found a likely candidate in the 1901 census,  listed as born in Glam.  aged 17 and living in the Canton area of Cardiff.

If anyone has access to the 1891 census this could pin him down,  he would be aged about 7 and presumably living with his parents.  

If anyone can help I would be eternally in your debt,

Kazza.

Title: Re:1891Census
Post by: hpjrt on Monday 12 January 04 14:03 GMT (UK)

Hi Kazza,

I searched both the UK and the Wales census for 1891 and didn't find an "Isaac Hole" in either of the right age and/or birthplace.

I even tried searching on the ages of 6 and 7 and came up with some males with the surname Hole ... but nothing to indicate, say, a second name of Isaac ... or a misspellling of that name.

With whom was he living in 1901?  Perhaps that would provide a useful clue.

Mary E. Lea-Bannister

Title: Re:1891Census
Post by: Kazza on Monday 12 January 04 21:33 GMT (UK)

Thanks Mary,

I'm afraid I know nothing about who he was living with I got this info. from the 1901 online census and did'nt fancy paying a fiver for the full information.  

Thanks for looking tho' :)

Karen.

Title: Re:1891Census
Post by: GrahamofGlenny on Monday 12 January 04 23:57 GMT (UK)

If your Isaac HOLE was 17 in 1901 census, and born in Cardiff as it says, then his birth certificate is probably the one with the following GRO record:

Births Jul-Sep quarter 1883
Isaac HOLE    Cardiff district, vol 11a, page 291

I strongly recommend you order a copy.
It should be fairly easy to find his parents in the 1881 census from the info you'll get from a copy of his birth certificate.

There are very few WHOLE/HOLEs in Cardiff in 1881, it seems.

Title: Re:1891Census
Post by: Kazza on Tuesday 13 January 04 00:13 GMT (UK)

Thanks Graham,   :)

I think the 1901 Isaac is mine,  not sure tho'.  I think you are right,  ordering that cert.  seems to be the way to go,  my problem is that I don't know if my Isaac was born in Cardiff.

Thanks again,
Karen.

Title: Re:1891Census
Post by: grub on Wednesday 10 March 04 14:03 GMT (UK)

Hi Kazza

Isaac Hole, m 1877
Isaac Hole, b 1883
Isaac Hole, m 1902

and Isaac James Hole, b 1905
all Glamorgan, Monmouthshire.
I was thinking if "your" Isaac had a son named Isaac James this might confirm that it's the right one on the 1901.

Regards,
Grub

Title: Re:1891Census
Post by: Kazza on Wednesday 10 March 04 19:56 GMT (UK)

thanks for that grub,  

don't know if he had an Isaac James son,  but think he had a Walter John about 1905 - 10,  but I think the other Isaac is mine.  Thanks for looking though.

Kazza.

Title: Re:1891Census
Post by: Russ on Saturday 10 April 04 19:28 BST (UK)

Have you any connection to Richard and Mary Hole? Richard appeared in the 1871 census for Whitchurch, Cardiff lodging with the Webber family from Bampton, Devon.
Regards,
Russ

Title: Re:1891Census
Post by: Kazza on Thursday 15 April 04 15:13 BST (UK)

Hi there Russ,

I do not have a Richard or Mary Hole yet (apart from my mother but she isn't that old  :o ).  However,  the Devon connection is very interesting as there seem to be lots of my Holes in Bampton,  Crediton and Bideford.  I will file this info for later verification.

Thanks  ;D
Kazza.

Title: Re: 1891Census
Post by: Kazza on Friday 30 July 04 16:20 BST (UK)

Russ,

Hello again,  do you know anything more about this Hole Family?

Are they this one on the 1881 census?

Richard HOLE   Head   M   Male   44   Timberscombe, Somerset, England   Labourer In Fuel Works     
 Mary HOLE   Wife   M   Female   43   Chipstable, Somerset, England       
 Annie HOLE   Daur   U   Female   19   Clyngar, Devon, England       
 George HOLE   Son   U   Male   18   Clyngar, Devon, England   Behind The Roll In Tin Works     
 Thomas HOLE   Son   U   Male   15   Bampton, Devon, England   Sheet Iron Marker In Tin Works     
 Richard HOLE   Son   U   Male   14   Bampton, Devon, England   Farm Labourer     
 Emily HOLE   Daur   U   Female   13   Bampton, Devon, England   Scholar     
 Ellen HOLE   Daur   U   Female   9   Whitchurch, Glamorgan, Wales   Scholar     
 John HOLE   Son   U   Male   5   Whitchurch, Glamorgan, Wales   Scholar     
 Blanche HOLE   Daur   U   Female   4   Whitchurch, Glamorgan, Wales   Sch

Kazza.

Title: Re: 1891Census
Post by: Russ on Friday 30 July 04 16:50 BST (UK)

Hi Kazza,
Yes this is the same Richard Hole that was lodging with the Webber family in Whitchurch in 1871. Richard's wife, Mary, was the daughter of George Cornwall. George also appears as a lodger with the Webber family on the census record. Do you require any further information? Most of my records relate to the Webber and Cornwall families.

Title: Re: 1891Census
Post by: Kazza on Friday 30 July 04 22:58 BST (UK)

Thanks Russ,

I am trying to establish who the parents of my G-Grandfather Isaac Hole are.  I am waiting for his birth certificate,  but I am very impatient  ;D and was wondering if he could have been a later child of this couple.  In which case the Webber and Cornwall family will be of interest to me as well.  If you do not know,  I will wait for the cert.   ;D

Kazza.

Title: Re: 1891Census
Post by: Russ on Friday 30 July 04 23:56 BST (UK)

Hi Kazza,
I don't think Isaac is directly connected with this family. He doesn't appear on the 1891 family census record. I wish you luck with the birth certificate you ordered.
Russ