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Looking for whom we think may be a connection to our tree, via a Matthew or Joshua Crawforth whom emirgrated to Canada some time in the mid 1800's.
This really is a tangled web for us as there are Joshua Crawforth's in the right time zone at least 4 but not enough info on them this side of the pond.
any details would be appericated
Lin
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Hi Lin
Welcome to Rootschat
Do you have any idea as to where they came from (i.e. born) in the United Kingdom prior to moving to Canada
Do you think they moved voluntary.
From their life in canada, can you throw any light on their beginnings
Chris in 1066Land
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Greetings Chris :)
Many thanks for the welcome.
There is a Matthew Crawforth born in Paull, Yorkshire in 1791 on of several children to Matthew and Hannah Crawforth. he would be my great, great, great Uncle. He was quite a bit older than my great x3 grandfather who is a Joshua. We know that Joshua didn't go to Canada.
Joshua had 3 children on being a Joshua Crawforth born in Yorkshire too. We think it may be this one. He married an Eliza Leak but then emigrated ? where
One theory is that he went with his Uncle Matthew. We have no details on Matthew at all.
There is also another Joshua born later in Kensington Middlesex grandson of first Joshua.
We do know that this Matthew and Joshua moved to Ontario Whitby area. It was voluntary as far as we know and they became farmers.
Lin
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Lin,
Here are some Crawforth marriages in Ontario:
Vol 2 pg 139 (Ontario Co) Matthew Crawforth, 40, farmer, England, Brooklin, widower, s/o Matthew & Sarah Crawforth, married Eliza Parks, 32, Pickering, Whitby, d/o Thomas & Rachel Parks, witn: James Powell, Brooklin & Thomas Gordon, Pickering, 9 July 1869 at Whitby.
#009114-85 Alfred? H. Gummerson, 25, illegible, Chinguacousy, b, farmer, s/o Matthew Gummerson & Eliza Ann Williams, married Annie Crawforth, 21, Brampton, Chinguacousy, s, d/o Thomas Crawforth & ELizabeth Denton, witn Anderson Crawforth, John Carter, both Chinguacousy, married 14 (or 11) October 1885, Chinguacousy twp.
#014194-04 (Ontario Co): William Crawforth, 27, farmer, W. Whitby, same, s/o Matthew Crawforth & Eliza Park, married Lillie Viola Cameron, 21, W. Whitby, E. Whitby, d/o Alex Cameron & Mabel Beness, witn: Robert Hall of Whitby & Nellie Stork of Oshawa, 30 Nov 1904 at Oshawa.
Have you checked out the 1901 Ontario Census for Whitby. There are a number of Crawforths, including two Matthews (ages 53 and 74), and a Joshua, too (age 18). Here is the link if you're interested: http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census/index.html
Good luck,
~meg
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Greetings Meg, :)
Many thanks for this and the link. Will go and digest this, Not literally!!
Lin
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Federal Census of 1871 (Ontario Index)
CRAWFORTH , JOSHAWA
Sex: Male
Age: 51
Birthplace: ENGLAND
Religion: Wesleyan Methodist
Origin: ENGLISH
Occupation: FARMER
District: ONTARIO SOUTH ( 048 )
Sub-district: Whitby West ( B )
Division: 1
Page: 24
Microfilm reel: C-9974
Reference: RG31 — Statistics Canada
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I found a Matthew also CRAWFORTH , MATHEW
Sex: Male
Age: 80
Birthplace: ENGLAND
Religion: Wesleyan Methodist
Occupation: FARMER
District: ONTARIO SOUTH ( 048 )
Sub-district: Whitby West ( B )
Division: 1
Note: Schedule Two: deaths in the preceding twelve months ending 2 April 1871
Microfilm reel: C-9974
Reference: RG31 — Statistics Canada
Not sure what the deaths part means but it is here, also, so must be a relative, too....
CRAWFORTH , WILLIAM
Sex: Male
Age: 8
Birthplace: ONTARIO
Religion: Wesleyan Methodist
District: ONTARIO SOUTH ( 048 )
Sub-district: Whitby West ( B )
Division: 1
Note: Schedule Two: deaths in the preceding twelve months ending 2 April 1871
Microfilm reel: C-9974
Reference: RG31 — Statistics Canada
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1881...Household: Found spelled Matthew wrong!
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp
Mathew CRAWFORTH M Male English 54 England Farmer C. Methodist
Eliza CRAWFORTH M Female Irish 44 Ontario C. Methodist
Mathew CRAWFORTH Male English 21 Ontario Farmer C. Methodist
Hannah CRAWQFORTH Female English 19 Ontario C. Methodist
Rachael CRAWFORTH Female English 10 Ontario School C. Methodist
Ruth CRAWFORTH Female English 9 ontario School C. Methodist
Mark CRAWFORTH Male English 8 Ontario School C. Methodist
William CRAWFORTH Male English 4 Ontario C. Methodist
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I found a Matthew also CRAWFORTH , MATHEW
Sex: Male
Age: 80
Birthplace: ENGLAND
Religion: Wesleyan Methodist
Occupation: FARMER
District: ONTARIO SOUTH ( 048 )
Sub-district: Whitby West ( B )
Division: 1
Note: Schedule Two: deaths in the preceding twelve months ending 2 April 1871
Microfilm reel: C-9974
Reference: RG31 — Statistics Canada
Not sure what the deaths part means but it is here, also, so must be a relative, too....
There were several 'sections' or 'schedules' to the 1871 census, one was a Death Registration of sorts. Anyone who died in the last 12 months before the census was taken, had to be listed. This means that Matthew and little William died sometime between April 1870 and April 1871. Now a search can be made in the Vital Registration indexes to Deaths, which are publicly available on microfilm. Once you find the death in the index, you convert the codes to get the microfilm with the full registration which includes details as to cause of death, where the person lived, etc.
The Ontario Vital Stats Project also has a lookup service for births/marriages/deaths. There's a fee, it's quite reasonable
http://www.rootsweb.com/~onvsr/
http://allcensusrecords.com/canada/ has info on the parts of each Canadian census, and the list of questions asked - very helpful
Now that JJ has done this sleuthing and found what looks like your family in the 1871 index, you can order the full census page from NAC and see the details - spouse, children, occupations, religion, etc.
Then you should order the Agricultural Portion of the 1871 census to find out exactly what land (lot and concession) they were on. This allows you to search other land records - such as the Abstract Indexes to Deeds. I'm a BIG fan of those - they let you see who owned a certain parcel of land from the time it left Crown hands to the present day. Sometimes wills are filed with the AI to D. It also lets you see when your ancestor bought or was granted, the land and when they sold, or deeded it away -- and to whom!
Oh, and you can look for land petitions too - they might have applied for a grant of land under hardship rules or any number of other regulations. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/can/ont/land.shtml has a good explanation, you will need to check the CLRI and get the Upper Canada Land Petitions Index on film. They have different information.
Both are indexes to land, one is an index to all petitions on land (UCLP indexes) which leads to the full petitions -- my ancestor coming from England to Canada (Ontario) via New York, filed a petition which gave his wife's maiden name - what a find!!
CRLI is an index of first time owners of Crown land, so if your ancestor was not a first time owner he/she will not appear. If they do appear on it, you will find valuable clues to aid you in investigating land records further - such as Canada Company Grants, Hardship/Gratuituous Grants, Military Grants, and so on.
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Found something..
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wjmartin/ontario3.htm
Crawforth, Joshua, yeoman, 1, 19 f.
Crawforth, Matthew, yeoman, 6,24 h.
Crawforth, Robert, 2, 29 f.
This is in Connor and Coltson's Directory of Ontario County, 1869/70. (Part 3) for the township of Whitby. Whitby is the county town of this township
If I recall correctly the first number is the Concession, the second is the lot, so Joshua for example was on Conc 1 Lot 19 and was a farmer (f) I can't recall what 'h' means but I will find out
I will double check on the Lot/Conc. order of numbers (it isn't given online) but this is really great as you now knokw where they lived and can get into those other land records I mentioned! The Abstract Index to Deeds will tell you exactly when they got their land, and under what conditions.
1891 Census
CRAWFORTH
Ontario County
Whitby West Township
Division 3 p12,13 film T6358 lds1465783
25 CRAWFORTH Mathew m 43 - son Ont Eng Eng Meth farmer
1 FUSSINS? Robert m 25 - domestic Eng Eng Eng Meth farm labour
2 BRINT? Sarah f 23 - domestic Ont Ont Ont Meth general servant
CRAWFORTH
Ontario County.
Whitby West Township
Division 3
page 13 film T6358 lds1465783
3 CRAWFORTH Mark m 32 married - Ont Eng Eng Meth farmer
4 CRAWFORTH Lydia f 31 married wife Ont Scotland Ont Meth
5 CRAWFORTH Wilfred m 11 - son Ont Ont Ont Meth
6 CRAWFORTH Olive f 9 - dtr Ont Ont Ont Meth
7 CRAWFORTH Joshua m 7 - son Ont Ont Ont Ont
8 CRAWFORTH Bertha f 5 - dtr Ont Ont Ont Ont
9 CRAWFORTH Alma f 3 - dtr Ont Ont Ont Ont
10 CRAWFORTH Arthur m 1 - son Ont Ont Ont Ont
CRAWFOURTH
Ontario County.
Pickering Township
Division 4 page 1 film T6358 lds1465783
13 BIRRELL David m 49 married - Ont Scotland Scotland Protestant farmer
14 BIRRELL {?} Catherine R. f 40 married wife Ont Ire Ire Protestant
15 BIRRELL John E. m 19 - son Ont Ont Ont Protestant student
16 BIRRELL .Maggie f 17 - dtr Ont Ont Ont Protestant student
17 BIRRELL Robert A. m 15 - son Ont Ont Ont Protestant
18 BIRRELL Ann Jane f 10 - dtr Ont Ont Ont Protestant
19 REVIS .Thomas m 47 married dom Eng Eng Eng Meth farm labourer
20 GRAHAM Edward m 20 - dom Ont Scotland Eng Baptist farm labourer
21 CRAWFOURTH Harriet f 14 - dom Eng Eng Eng Meth general servant
Vital Stats Online
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~maryc/ont72.htm
Vol 24 Pg 351 - William COAKWELL, 29, farmer, Yorkshire Eng, East Whitby, s/o Charles & Charlotte, married Hannah CRAWFORTH, 21, Whitby, same, d/o Joshua & Ann. Witn Thomas COAKWELL, East Whitby, & Martha CRAWFORTH, Whitby. 21 Mar 1872 Whitby.
(forgot to say that the first location is where the person was born, second location is where they were living when the event took place)
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hi Lin, me again :)
I did a little search of OCFA (Ontario Cemetery Finding Aid ) http://www.islandnet.com/ocfa/
and found the following
Surname Given Name Cemetery County Township Reference
CRAWFORTH Matthew Oshawa Union, North Presbyterian, Section D Durham Whitby East WO-
CRAWFORTH Joshua Oshawa Union, North Presbyterian, Section D Durham Whitby East WO-
You should go and have a search on your own -- and then look up the Reference (in this case "WO" ) at http://www.islandnet.com/ocfa/fields.html That will tell you where and how to get the full burial/cemetery/gravestone record for the cemetery they are buried in
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Way to go eillo! You're good!! CHEERS!!! J.J.
P.S Lots for Lin to absorb in the morning... What is a yeoman?
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Lin,
I did a search on the Canadian County Atlas Project website for Crawforth in Ontario County, Whitby and got a J. Crawforth, settled 1845, "Nativity: England, Business: Farmer", with four lots. The atlas was published in 1877. You can view the images online and order proper copies, too. It lists concession and lot, as well as lot size.
http://digital.library.mcgill.ca/countyatlas/searchpeople.php
Regards,
Josephine
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Way to go eillo! You're good!! CHEERS!!! J.J.
P.S Lots for Lin to absorb in the morning... What is a yeoman?
Thanks JJ! I'm just the curious obsessive sort, that's all ...
To answer your question a yeoman is a sort of gentleman farmer as far as I know.
I think I goofed when I said "f" in the post I wrote was for 'farmer', I'm thinking now it is 'freeholder' so I will check on that in the morning.
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Greetings Everyone, :)
Wow! :o Thanks for all the work you have done on my behalf. I am very appreciative and it's great.
I have a lot to digest and most of it I was not aware of.
Thanks again everyone :-*
Lin
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By the way Lin I so love your avatar...swans are so cool...J.J.
Oh, my gosh, sounds like my teenager wrote that!!!!
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Your little Willliam was also in the same OCFA listing as above:
CRAWFORTH William Oshawa Union, North Presbyterian, Section D Durham Whitby East WO-
As well as an Anne, James, Bertha Arabel, and Anne...so could also be your family. Glad that we could help!
All the best, J.J.
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Just had another go at the LDS site and you have some Crawforths listed in the I.G.I....Something of note is that the 1881 list I gave you seems to be the only Crawforths in Canada. Perhaps the census is not complete on this site, then. ( Although odd spellings or miss-spellings may have occurred)...so I will list them for you, altho keep in mind that these are submitted by descendants. Perhaps Susan and Mark & Matthew ( below, as parents) may have been sons & daughter to your Joshua, before he died?? Something to look into.
Susan Crawforth - I.G.I. Birth: 1859 , Female Marriage: 10 FEB 1886 death 1943 Canada No parents listed....
Bertha Arabell Crawforth - I.G.I.Birth: 02 NOV 1884 Whitby Township, , Ontario,
Olive Cordelia A. Crawforth -I.G.I.Birth: 24 MAY 1881 Whitby, Ontario,
Martha Beatrice Crawforth -I.G.I.Birth: 28 MAY 1893 Whitby Township, Ontario
Alma Whitney Crawforth -I.G.I. Birth: 11 FEB 1887 Whitby, Ontario,
Father: Mark Crawforth Mother: Lydia Cribb
Nancy Crawforth - I.G.I. Birth: 27 MAR 1875 Whitby, Ontario
Father: Matthew Crawforth Mother: Eliza Parks
Family search results from:
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp
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Father: Mark Crawforth Mother: Lydia Cribb
To add to this find by JJ -- in the Bowmanville Canadian Statesman, Jan. 18, 1934
CRAWFORTH, Mark 1934 01 18 page 10
"Death: In Whitby Twp., Lot 18, Conc. 1, Jan 17th, 1934, Lydia Ann Cribb, w/o Mark Crawforth, in 76th yr. M/o A. W. Crawforth, Strathroy... "
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I missed this Crawforth with the LAING family in 1881...had counted amount in family but Hannah (CrawQforth) had been miss-spelled...
different religion and origin listed, but could be the census taker just kept
going with his dittos.....Paris Town, Brant North, Ontario
Sarah CRAWFORTH Female Scottish 22 Ontario Servant Methodist
J.J.
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Hi Lin,
To add to your collection, a Mark Crawforth, son of Lydia Crawforth of Whitby, served in the Canadian Forces in WWI. You can see his attestation (enlistment) papers by searching for him here: http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/020106_e.html
Once you find the page with his record on it you will see a link saying "how to consult or order copies of these records". This will tell you how you can order photocopies of his entire service file - it's quite a reasonable price and well worth it. The attestation papers are just a small part of what's in the file. The entire file also contains the soldier's medical records, all of their movements (where they were posted), dates of sailing to England for overseas service, records of medals or disciplinary actions, and sometimes if they received a pension there are records showing later addresses where the cheques were sent etc... You will get all this if you order the copies, but you can only see the attestation papers on-line.
Good luck!
Martha
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can't remember if this was submitted yet....
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/%7Emaryc/thisisit.htm
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~maryc/ont69.htm
Ont. 1869---Vol 2 pg 139 (Ontario Co) Matthew CRAWFORTH, 40, farmer, England, Brooklin, widower, s/o Matthew & Sarah CRAWFORTH, married Eliza PARKS, 32, Pickering, Whitby, d/o Thomas & Rachel PARKS, witn: James POWELL, Brooklin & Thomas GORDON, Pickering, 9 July 1869 at Whitby
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~maryc/ont72.htm
1872---Vol 24 Pg 351 ---- William COAKWELL, 29, farmer, Yorkshire Eng, East Whitby, s/o Charles & Charlotte, married Hannah CRAWFORTH, 21, Whitby, same, d/o Joshua & Ann. Witn Thomas COAKWELL, East Whitby, & Martha CRAWFORTH, Whitby. 21 Mar 1872 Whitby.
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~maryc/peel85.htm
Peel, 1885 ----#009114-85 Alfred? H. GUMMERSON, 25, illegible, Chinguacousy, b, farmer, s/o Matthew GUMMERSON & Eliza Ann WILLIAMS, married Annie CRAWFORTH, 21, Brampton, Chinguacousy, s, d/o Thomas CRAWFORTH & ELizabeth DENTON, witn Anderson CRAWFORTH, John CARTER, both Chinguacousy, married 14 (or 11) October 1885, Chinguacousy twp.
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~maryc/ontario.htm
Ontario Co. 1904---#014194-04 (Ontario Co): William CRAWFORTH, 27, farmer, W. Whitby, same, s/o Matthew CRAWFORTH & Eliza PARK, married Lillie Viola CAMERON, 21, W. Whitby, E. Whitby, d/o Alex CAMERON & Mabel BENESS, witn: Robert HALL of Whitby & Nellie STORK of Oshawa, 30 Nov 1904 at Oshawa
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~maryc/north11.htm
Northern Dist 1911+
24358-19 Mark Salisbury CRAWFORTH, 28, Bank manager, Oshawa, Inwood, s/o Mark CRAWFORTH & L. CRIBB married Eva Myrtle SHIBLEY, unknown, Haileybury, d/o John SHIBLEY & M. KINGSTON, Wtn. Milton S. Boyd, Hilda SHIBLEY on Dec 23, 1919 at Haileybury
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Another mark, altho elsewhere in Ont.
CRAWFORTH, Mark Salisbury. The family sorrowfully announce his sudden passing at the Ajax and Pickering General Hospital on Saturday, October 30th, 1965. Mark Salisbury Crawforth, beloved husband of the late Eva M. Shibley. Dear father of Mrs. C. Pascoe (Margaret) and J. G. of R.R.1 Whitby. Dear brother of Mrs. A. R. Johnston (Alma) Grimsby, Mrs. C. S. Buck (Beatrice), London, and Mrs. H. M. Gulley (Sarah) of Toronto, in his 75th year. Resting at the W. C. Town Funeral Chapel, Whitby. For service in the chapel on Teusday, November 2nd at 2 p.m. Interment Union Cemetery, Oshawa. Minister the Rev. F. J. Reed.
There is a street named Crawforth in Whitby...I imagine might have been named after your family!!!! That's a fun find....J.J.
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J.J Thanks I'm quite proud of it myself as family emblems go it's a great one.
Lin
By the way Lin I so love your avatar...swans are so cool...J.J.
Oh, my gosh, sounds like my teenager wrote that!!!!
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Greetings All,
Wow!! Sorry I haven't been around for literally months. thank you so much everyone for all the work you have done I really do appreciate all you have done and am working my way through it. :D
You're all fantastic, flowers, raised glasses etc.
As an update I have now managed to be in conntact with a descendant of Matthew Crawforth and we have actually met up. There was some familiar likeness and also in family photos
Thank you once again you brilliant, kind people :-*
Lin
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Wonderful news...exciting to find some rellies!!
Probably have this from the I.G.I....
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp
Crawforth children born to Matthew & Hannah, Paull, Yorkshire
William - b. 1785 / d. 1835
Sarah - b. 1787 / m. 1808 / d.1818
Your Matthew Senior - 1790
Rosanne - b. 1792
Hannah - b. 1794
Joshua - b. 1797
Matthew jr.?
Aaron Crawforth b. 1823 / d. 1824
(to MATHEW CROAFORTH and HANNAH URIAS)
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Hi J.J.
Yes it was really exciting . We looked at photo's of each others ancestors and so likenesses some spookily so. We found a couple in ourselves too.
Joshua born 1797 is my line. My branch stayed in the Uk but it was so great to help my Canadian relative with all the info I got here.
Sorry to be so long replying, my computer blocked this page for literally months and I couldn't get in.
Having now had it sorted am able to get back in.
Lin