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Title: Fanny Harvey's mother Sarah maiden name
Post by: jeanharris on Thursday 29 December 05 04:30 GMT (UK)
How can I find the maiden name of Sarah Harvey,Fanny Harvey mother born 1847 Frindsbury Kent.
Found the birth of a James Robert Harvey for 1838 Bromley Greater London,with his baptism 1839 Strood Kent to parents James and Sarah Harvey.
        Thanks Jean.
Title: Re: Fanny Harvey's mother Sarah maiden name
Post by: bearkat on Thursday 29 December 05 08:41 GMT (UK)
The birth certificates of either Fanny or James should give their mother's maiden name.
If you think the marriage could have been in Strood you could try trawling through the marriages on the Medway Cityark site:
http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/
Title: Re: Fanny Harvey's mother Sarah maiden name
Post by: jeanharris on Thursday 29 December 05 10:36 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that info.I have Fanny's birth cert,but it gives no father.I must get James cert.Have looked at many years on Cityark without any luck.But I am not sure if they married in Strood as James was born in Bromley.
                    Jean.
Title: Re: Fanny Harvey's mother Sarah maiden name
Post by: bearkat on Thursday 29 December 05 15:36 GMT (UK)
Are you sure these 2 births are related?
It would be very unusual for the father not to be named unless the parents weren't married. 
If there is no maiden name given for the mother I think you have to wonder if she was married.
Title: Re: Fanny Harvey's mother Sarah maiden name
Post by: jeanharris on Friday 30 December 05 04:41 GMT (UK)
I am fairly sure the birth are related.On the 1841 census Sarah has a daughter Elizabeth ages 5 and a son James 2 living in Strood.But no father given.Found a death of a James Harvey Medway 1840.I donot think James was Fanny's father but on her marriage cert it gives her father as James.I donot think I will ever find Fanny's father but finding Sarah's maiden name may help with my family tree.Fanny on the 1861 census was living with her sister Elizabeth.Elizabeth was married to Richard Springate and living in Chatham.
Title: Re: Fanny Harvey's mother Sarah maiden name
Post by: jeanharris on Sunday 01 January 06 07:41 GMT (UK)
Have just sent for the birth certificate for James Robert Harvey born 1838 Bromly Kent.He seems to fit with the James Robert baptised 1839 Strood and the James Robert death Medway 1848.
Will let you know.
         Jean.
Title: Re: Fanny Harvey's mother Sarah maiden name
Post by: jeanharris on Monday 30 January 06 04:44 GMT (UK)
Hi.
The birth certificate for James Robert Harvey born Bromley was the wrong James!!
Sent for another James Robert Harvey born Strood(He was baptised before he was registered!!)
I think now I have the right James!!
The certificate gives his mother's maiden name as Filmer!!
Not come across this name before in my reseach.
Have looked but cannot find a family which may fit.
Still unable to find Fanny or her family on the 1851 census.
Can anyone help please??
           Thanks Jean.
Title: Re: Fanny Harvey's mother Sarah maiden name
Post by: bearkat on Monday 30 January 06 16:02 GMT (UK)
I can't see any obvious candidates for Fanny in 1851. 
Are you sure Sarah's first husband didn't die?   She could have remarried and her children taken the name of husband No.2
Title: Re: Fanny Harvey's mother Sarah maiden name
Post by: jeanharris on Tuesday 31 January 06 02:06 GMT (UK)
Yes I have found a death for a James Harvey Medway 1840.Think Sarah and family found on 1841 census living in Strood with daughter Elizabeth 5 and son James 2(no husband)
On Fanny's birth certificate it gives her mother as Sarah Harvey no father.If Sarah had remarried and he died maybe she went back to using the surname Harvey!
Also found the deaths for a Sarah and James Harvey deaths Medway 1848!
Have looked though many years on cityark for Strood and Frindsbury but not found Sarah and James marriage!
Title: Re: Fanny Harvey's mother Sarah maiden name
Post by: jeanharris on Friday 03 February 06 04:13 GMT (UK)
Have found Sarah Filmer's baptism 1814 Cliffe also her marriage to James Harvey Jan 1836 Cliffe.Then my luck held out found Sarah daughter's Elizabeth baptism Nov 1836.The family then must have moved to Strood.
It pays to keep looking as one day you find what you are looking for!!
               Jean.
Title: Re: Fanny Harvey's mother Sarah maiden name
Post by: shelleyfamilyhist on Sunday 01 February 09 01:39 GMT (UK)
Hi
did you know the filmer name in kent runs back to nobility? Sir Robert Filmer in 1578, and then runs back to De Fillemere in 1128? its quite well documented online, and is probably the furthest back you'll ever get, so i'd have a look at this line, it may prove very interesting!

stuart
Title: Re: Fanny Harvey's mother Sarah maiden name
Post by: jeanharris on Sunday 01 February 09 02:01 GMT (UK)
Thankyou so much for the info Stuart.
I knew there is a Filmer family which was nobility in Kent but not sure if its connected to mine!
My Sarah father was a Robert and the name going back from him,so you never know!
My family as you see are from Cliffe the same area I think as Sir Robert.
I will take a look online.I am sure there is French blood in me somewhere!We love France,we were there in June.I now live in Perth Australia but was born in Strood Kent.

        Kind regards Jean.