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I am trying to find out more info on a William John (or possibly John) William Heaffey. He is showing on the 1901 census being born in Mallow Cork around 1849. I know that he was a soldier in England in 1871, married a Canadian whilst in the army and settled in Kensington in late 1800's. The surname is an unusual spelling and may have been changed from Heafey or Heaffy but any help/lookups for this surname would be much appreciated. :)
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Seasons Greetings,
I used http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php to search for Heaffey. This did not produce a result so I searched again, this time for Heafey and several names were shown as living in Ireland during the years 1848 - 64 which was the time when Griffiths Valuation was conducted.
All the Best Christopher
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Thanks Christopher
I'll have a look, many thanks and Happy Christmas!!!
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Hi
I was wondering if anything further happened on this query. My maiden name is heaffey I have traced back to my great grandparent William John Heaffey and Catherine Harper who married in Halifax Nova Scotia in 1876. But then I get stuck partly as she's Canadian and he sometimes puts down on the subsequent census that he was born in Mallow Ireland or London. Also recently found out about the Castlepooke murders in Doneraile in 1832 and the 2 Heaffey's who were executed for murder would like to know if there's a link. Can anyone help.
Thanks
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Welcome to Rootschat.
You are fortunate the marriage took place in Nova Scotia because the marriage registration gives lots of details that might help.
John William (not William John) Heaffey married 19 Feb.1876 (Presbyterian) to Catherine Harper (age 21). His details say that he's age 28 and a baker, born London, son of John William (fireman gas factory) and Catherine.
In 1891 census (Battersea, England) John W. Heaffey, age 42, born Westminster, London.
In 1901 census William John Heaffey, age 52, born Malaw Ireland and wife Katherine born Hona, Scolia, Halefax [Nova Scotia, Halifax] according to Ancestry.
Assuming for the moment that almost all records say John William/William John was born in London- have you tried searching for him and especially his parents in English records? The surname might be under something like Heaphy, etc. You have the names of both parents and father's occupation from marriage details so you might be able to find the family. Even if J.W./W.J. was born in Ireland the family could have moved to England when he was young.
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Hi
Thanks for this I have got most of this info but just can't trace his birth or even his death in England at the moment so I think there is a question re the spelling. I think a visit to Mallow next year may be in order as I don't think he was born in England. I also think the army plays a part in this as he and Catherine went on to have children born all over the world - Jamaica and Malta. My grandfather was one, if not the youngest son born in London. Most of the family died young in their 30's, including Jack, so family history always has been very vague.
Thanks for your information, I always thought the family were Catholic so that's new.
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The bride (Catherine) might have been Presbyterian. Think spelling is a big part of the problem. However, if you start searching for church records in Ireland (if they exist) you need to know the family's religion and where they lived since civil registration of births only started in 1864.
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Hi All,
Long time since I originally posted my first request. Have really long since given up trying to trace back any further on the Heaffey side as I believed they originated from Ireland and many of the records were destroyed. Have read the recent postings and am a little confused why aghadoweys marriage details differ to my copy. The names, date and ages agree but the but Johns occupations differ. I have him listed as a Bombardier R.A residing at the artillery park in Halifax. They were married by Rev george Grant of the Presbyterian troops. He can be seen on the 1871 census at the Yaversland Battery IOW and the children were born all the around the world, giving the impression he was indeed in the army. I am still unsure re his first name but as he is listed as John William on the marriage cert, on one of his sons marriage cert (married in a Catholic church) his wifes and own death certificate and all census with the exception of 1901 I think this was his correct name although he may have been known as William. I have been mulling over the idea that he was born in London and have actually found a birth entry for a John Heafy 1847 but the registration district is St Pancras. Would this be correct for someone that states they were born in Westminster? Dimar- I have John W Heaffey down as died J-M 1931 aged 83 again Pancras 1B 20.
Any thoughts on this most appreciated!!!
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Went back to have a look at marriage record and have enlarged it as much as possible but it's still hard to read. Occupation certainly starts with 'B' and all details point to a military connection:
https://www.novascotiagenealogy.com/
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Thanks Aghadowey, I was unable to see a copy of the entry other than there names. Did you have to pay to see a copy?
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No. The scanned image of the page is free to view.
Type 'Heaffey' + 'John' into search box on 1st page and click 'search'.
Accept terms and conditions (click 'I accept' button).
Click on purple 'marriage' tab.
Click 'view' button under 'view record' column.
Double click on scanned image a few times until it stops enlarging then move down the page a bit until you see the corret entry.
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Got it working,thanks. Needed to download something to view the image.
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Hi Lifes too Short
Gets more confusing with names the more you look doesn't it first name, middle name different spellings of surname! I will tell you what I know and it probably is what you also know.
I think the John W Heaffey who died in 1931 in St Pancras was my great grandfather. The father of Jack who died in 1927 aged 34. My father was Arthur Benjamin Robert he was Jack's youngest son born 1/1/1920 he had an older brother born in 1915 also called Jack, both deceased so I can't ask them although I don't think they knew much as they were so young when they lost their father.
One of the reasons I'm sure John W is my grandfather is family history tells us that he outlived all his sons who all died young none lived beyond their 30's, and there were a few sons. I also found Catherine's death in J-M 1934 aged 74 in St Pancras. So their ages tie in with the Heaffey and Harper who married in Halifax Nova Scotia in 1876. 2 children were then born in Jamaica, William John and Albert and 1 Robert was born in Malta. This does tie in with him being in the army and I think the profession you can't read on the marriage certificate says that he was a baker and confectioner in the Army Service Core.
As to whether he is the Heaffey born in 1847 in St Pancras it is likely but of course who knows as he sometimes puts Mallow or Westminster. Don't really know where to go with this now. He may have put Westminster because he thought it was and also boundaries and districts sometimes change. But he did die in st pancras. Westminster and St Pancras are only about 4 miles apart. The religion is also confusing i always believed the family were catholic but the eldest son William John born in Jamaica indicates on his army records that he was not.
Heaffey is certainly a Mallow name if you google search Castlepooke murders you will get some interesting info but nothing that ties in with the family, but who knows!
I will keep you posted if i find anything else but like you may have reached the end of the line.
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Hi Dimar,
Yep it is confusing and I feel the only line left to follow is to order the birth certificate I mentioned, although looking at all the records again Im not betting on it being the correct John. Interestingly enough in 1901 there is a John Heaffey senior in St Josephs house which could be Johns father. I haven't been able to trace this John back for sure on previous censuses but there was a couple, John and Catherine but not around London. The copy of John and Catherine marriage certificate that I obtained (not an exact copy of the one on the Nova Scottia website) shows that he was a Bombardier in the Royal Artillery which ties in with the 1871 census where he was at Yaverland batterry. I also have a copy of Catherines death cerificate which states she was a widow of John William Heaffey. Nora Heaffey being the informant. I was tracing the Heaffey family on behalf of my husband whose grandfather was Victor David c1887 who died in 1925. That is another story but just to say he had a lot of children which span over a number of years sadly meaning there are few alive today. As you say very little is known in the family of the Heaffey history as most did die young although there are still some around London that must have connections. Victor was married in a Catholic church to Ada Wilson who was not Catholic. This wedding was witnessed by Catherine and Rober Heaffey so I think this would indicate at least Victor was of Catholic faith. If I make any progress I will post it here.
Clare
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I am researching the family tree of:
Frank Edward Heaffey born 1919[/b] (Kensington,London) died 2009 - he was brought up a catholic but converted to Church of England so that he did not have to attend mass when he was fighting in the second world war. During the war he served in a canadian regiment. His family settled in Harrow, Middlesex. His father Victor died when he was about 6 years old.
His mother was Ada Sarah Wilson and his father was Victor David Heaffey (born Kent) (died 1925). I was told that Frank's grandfather was Sergeant Major in the Irish Army and was 6 feet 4inches tall but I do not have any information to confirm this just hearsay.
Victor (also known as Vista) David Heaffey's father was William John Heaffey from Mallaw, Ireland and I believe his wife was Katherine.
Does anyone have any information regarding William John Heaffey and the Heaffey family from Mallaw?
With thanks
Norfolk Lady
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Don't know if I can add anything of any substance here. We recently sent for John Williams death cert. In the hope it would give us exact date of birth and place of birth - it did neither. My sisters and I recently went to Cork to do some research we went to Mallow and Doneraile where there used to be Heaffey's although they spelt it Heaphy but is definitely the same name. There was a JW born/baptised in 1850 in Doneraile which could be him but we're struggling to prove the link. Doneraile was where David and Elizabeth Heaffey were from and in 1833 they were hung in Cork for the murder of 2 tithe collectors. I'ts known as the Castlepooke murders and we went to the library in Cork and read accounts of the trial in the newspapers of the time. However again we can't prove a link. We think our next step is to try and get JW's army records from the national archives at Kew. We have been told by our cousin that her father Jack told her that JW was cursed by a guy in a country maybe India for something he did to his daughter. The curse was that all his sons would die young. JW outlived all his sons by a significant length of time. In the 1911 census his wife Catherine states she has given birth to 10 live children but only 3 are still alive they are Victor, your ancestor, Jack my grandfather who was the youngest and a daughter Catherine. Would be good to take it all further back but its very difficult partly because its very difficult in Ireland. Hope some of this helps. Keep in touch.
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Thank you for your reply. I am sorry to say that Frank Edward Heaffey died in July 2009 , he knew very little about his family background other than something about his grandfather being in the Irish Army, but I have not been able to research this yet. Frank served in a canadian regiment in the second world war . He used to say he thought the family name was O'Heaffey and that they dropped the 'O' on arrival in England but again I am not sure if this is just hearsay. A few years ago I went to the USA and found some records there of Heaffey's entering the USA around the mid 1800s but at the time did not have enough information to know if there really was a family link or not. I would be interested to know more about the Castlepooke murders - any information would be of interest.
Kind regards
Norfolk Lady
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Certainly have never come across O'Heaffey as a possibility before. JW I know was in the ASC which is the army service corp as were some of his sons. I don't know if this was linked in anyway to an Irish Regiment. As for the Castlepooke if you just google Castlepooke murders you'll get lots of information. When we read about it in newspapers of the time there was some suggestion that the wrong people had been hung - but who knows. We had a lot of negative response to the name in Cork as currently the family seem to be the local mafia! Although they spell it Heaphy. One taxi driver said he wouldn't have picked us up with that name and he wasn't joking! I think that like you my family had very little information about previous generations my father was only 6 when his father died and his mother then remarried. I also don't think you will get very far with JW's wife Catherine Harper as she says she was born in Nova Scotia - I have tried. You can see the marriage certificate on line, it says how in previous correspondence. I'll keep you up to date on any developments but this maybe the end of the line. Di
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Hi Dimar and Norfolk Lady
I havent got much too add from the last time I posted as I had kind of given up going back much further on the Irish side but I did see both of your postings so got the old files back out of the cupboard! Dimar I think looking up the army files is a great idea if you have the time. If not I may be able to get to Kew in the coming months. I know its a long time ago but when Catherine senior died someone must have inherited the family paperwork/possesions but who? Norah the grandaugter was named on the death certificate so maybe she is the answer. I do not know who her parents are but she appears to never have married, any ideas?? Also what became of Catherine the daughter? I am unable to find a marriage for her. The other faint possibilty is that Victors eldest son may have had some records but I feel this is unlikely and even more unlikely that they have survived. Not promising but over the winter months I may set up a Heaffey website or family tree and see if we can get as many Heaffeys to add to it. It is such an unusual name that I am sure everyone is somehow related. That is providing my kids help me !! Never know we may find out more.
Lastly, Norfolk Lady sorry about Frank am I correct in assuming you are related by marriage to one of his sons? If you are then my hubbie knows yours but will not haven spoken for many years !!
Regards
Clare
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Hi Clare nice to hear from you again. Like you I cannot trace Catherine the daughter's marriage or death so god knows what happened to her. Norah must be one of Victor's children she certainly isn't Jacks. We do keep trying don't we! There aren't many Heaffey's in Ireland even, as I said before its often spelt Heaphy and the ones still there are gangsters!!! If I could get hold Of JW's birth date and definite place of birth I maybe have a strong lead re the family in Doneraile which is only a few miles from Mallow. I have tried to find his army records on the national archives site (horrible site to navigate) but have had no luck so maybe a visit would be a good idea. Its good to talk to distant family doing the same research we get very bogged down in Ireland as we are also tracing the O'Regan's and the O'Callaghan's on our mother's side its certainly a challenge. Di
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Hi Dimar
Will be away for a couple of weeks but on my return I will try Kew and see what I can find. Norah isn't Victors child that I am aware of so I will order a d cert for her and see what that reveals. Will be in touch.
Bye for now
Clare
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Hi
I am attempting to try to find out more about Albert Joseph Heaffey, more specifically when he died. I have been reading all the info on the Heaffey family and have seen all the other siblings death (date and place) but not Albert's. I am looking to see if there is direct proof of when he died, as I 'may' have Albert entering the army, changing his name (a number of times) and ending up in Australia. However all my info is based on 'family' stories and some assumptions. If there is an extact year for Albert's death then this would squash my link and trail I have been following. Any help would be appreciated.
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Hi I think we had all but given up on the Heaffey's. I can't say that Albert was one of those we did much research on as we are more interested in Jack who is our grandfather. However, my sister has all the records so she's going to see what she has and I'll get back to you.
If you have any further info re Jack and Albert's parents we would be very interested because we couldn't even find their births. Too much travelling around and nearly all their sons died young, including our grandfather Jack.
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Hi Dimar,
After sending off the last message, we (my wife and I) have found further info that 'almost' confirms that Alfred Joseph Heaffey is my wife's paternal grandfather. The drama is that we believe Alfred changed his name, most likely to avoid an unwanted marriage. We know Alfred as 'Herbert Smith', WW1 veteran and father of two (legitimate) and suspected one (illegitimate). Our track (to finding the link between Heaffey and Smith) started with Herbert's war record and a court action that occurred during his war service. We found that 'Herbert' had served in the Middlesex Regiment prior to enlisting in Western Australia. We also found out that he was involved in a court case, because he had married his 2nd wife (my wife's grandmother) without having obtained a divorce from his first marriage in Singapore (while on duty with Middlesex regiment). This also (and more importantly) informed us that his real name was 'Alfred Joseph Heassey'. We hit a blank wall with 'Heassey' for a long while, but managed (very recently) to realize that the name Heassey had most likely been transcribed incorrectly and should have been 'Heaffey'. We were a bit dubious about the 'Heassey' to 'Heaffey' error until we found a number of other facts that join all the information together. 'Herbert' left his young kids when his 2nd wife died of TB (in Western Australia) and moved to South Australia and remarried as 'Smith-Harper', the maiden name of his mother!, his father was 'William John Smith-Harper' and he was from Canada! (Veteran records link my 'Herbert Smith' and 'Herbert Smith-Harper' as the same person). Also the Attestation records for 'Alfred' and 'Herbert' both describe exact significant features - the basics: brown hair and eyes, same height and weight, but more importantly distinctive tattoos that occur on both his arms - ship on right arm and girl on left arm. 'Alfred' served in the Middlesex regiment in Singapore at the time of the alleged marriage and was discharged while in Singapore, were (according to a newspaper article about court case) he travelled to Perth, Australia. Which is where he enlisted in the A.I.F. It has been a long trip to connect the two and we are now 99% sure Herbert is Alfred. We now are trying to find 'Alfred/Herbert' on a ship to W.A., marriage certificate in Singapore (when we can afford it - $120US) and also looking at how to gain access to the court records at the National Archives in Kew, to add more detail to the big picture.
Regarding the rest of 'Heaffey' family, I have the military record for William John, Alfred, Robert and possibly at least one record of their father, John William showing his Attestation and Discharge dates, which seems to match with his marriage and first appearance in UK census. Starting to look further back at the parents, I know Heaffey will be almost a dead end being from Ireland, but hope to see what happens with 'Harper'.
If you want further info, let me know.
Regards, David.
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Hi the family certainly lead us a merry dance all over the globe! All sorts of things seem to tie in
but I don't understand who William John Smith Harper is,are we talking about William John Heaffey?If so I've never come across Smith as a possibility. Have you got access to ancestry.co.uk if so have you looked at the Woodburn family tree this might help. I've got the marriage certificate for Heaffey and Harper in Nova Scotia but it hasn't helped me go any further back. My sisters and I visited Cork a couple of years ago without much luck. we did visit Castlepooke - scene of the murders and people in and around Cork are certainly not keen on the name Heaffey, one cab driver even said he wouldn't have picked us up if he'd known what our name was! We've also been to the archives in Kew which we found very difficult and actually again achieved nothing. I suspect I've got the same military records you have except possibly Albert. One of the big problem for us is that because my father Arthur was only 6 when Jack Heaffey his father died he knew very little about his family history. You're right about Ireland makes it very difficult to trace anything. I thought Canada would be easier but it hasn't proved to be although I didn't try very hard. At that stage we were hitting brick walls, mostly Ireland, with not only my fathers side the Heaffey's but also my mother's the O'Regans!!! So I sort of gave up. Do keep in touch though one of us might have a break through at some point! Let me know if you can't access ancestry. Good luck Di
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Hi Di
Yes, we believe that 'Albert/Herbert' used his father's real forenames on the marriage certificate, calling him 'William John' Smith-Harper. We official know he changed his name (newspaper court article) to escape his first marriage, and as my wife says to create a strong lie, it is often built around the truth. So Albert was probably known as 'Bert' which is easily changed to 'Herbert'. Why the 'Smith', well, I can only go on it's a very common name and easy to change to (to hide oneself). Using his father's names and his mother's surname, shows he kept close to the truth.
I have access to ancestry, so will have a look. I will also keep you informed of anything I find out.
David.
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Hi I have been looking into the surname HEAFFEY. My mother was PEGGY( MARGARET) JOAN HEAFFEY, her mother was NORAH HEAFFEY,not married, daughter of CATHERINE HEAFFEY not married. CATHERINE was the daughter of JOHN WILLIAM HEAFFEY & CATHERINE HEAFFEY... there were brothers ALBERT, JACK, VICTOR, ROBERT. All the brothers died young.... JOHN WILLIAM came from MALLOW IRELAND.... If anyone has anymore information please feel free to contact me.....foreveryoung64....
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Hi
A couple of weeks ago I came across a workhouse record for Norah and 2 children so made the connection with her being an illegitimate child of Catherine's, who I think was already dead, but you might be able to confirm this. The only other thing I can really add to all these posts is that I have begun to wonder if a David Heaffey born about 1823 is related in some way as the dates seem to tie together and also he lived in Westminster. I don't think it's his father as he's another William John! I got this from the Canadian marriage certificate. The spelling of David Heaffey has also been corrected on one census by someone and on another it's spelt Hayfie. It's all a bit of a nightmare really. It would be lovely if we could get back further but not hopeful. We've got so many strands of other parts of our family history that links us to Ireland especially Cork and we just get stuck. I will keep you all posted but don't hold your breaths!!! Di
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Hi Di
my husband wrote on here last year - I think he may have confused you about Albert Heaffey. He was my grandfather but he had a habit of changing his name. He changed it to join the Australian army for WW1 - to Herbert Smith - Albert and Herbert's war records show that it was the same person - or at least they have too many details exactly the same. Albert also changed his name when he married again after my grandmother died. This time using Smith as he did previously but adding Harper - Catherine's maiden name.
Thanks J
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I don't think he confused me at all, as I think we're all pretty confused by the Heaffey's!!!
It does however answer one question in the 1911 census women were asked for the first time how many children they had given birth too. Catherine (harper) said 10 and that 3 were still alive. I always thought this was Jack ( my grandfather), Victor and Catherine but I now know it wasn't Catherine but Albert. I'm not sure when Albert died but I think he may have been the only one to have survived his parents who both died in the early 1930's in their 80's! It just seems strange that they lived so long when most of their children died so young! Thanks for the post every bit helps in this very intriguing story. I will post if I find anything else but to be honest we may have reached the end of the line.
Di
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My Grandmother was Norah Heaffey, Daughter of Catherine Heaffey. Norah had 3 children but was unmarried as was her Mother. Norah's children were Mary, 1925 Robert 1926 & Peggy 1927... Robert died unmarried in 1970 & my Mother Peggy died in 2002. I think my Grandmother Norah died in 1984 but cant remember.. Mary married & became Grant & had a daughter Judith. They Lived in Swindon. My Mother married William Douglas Stevens in 1948 in St Ives Cornwall as she came down in the Land Army... I was born in Dec 1950 then my brother John in 1959... So that makes Catherine Heaffey my Great Grandmother & her Father John William Heaffey her Father my Great, Great Grandfather........ I do know that my Mother & Sister were brought up by Nuns in London, & Robert was brought up by Monks again in London... They hardly saw their Mother Norah as she had to work... Hope this is a help to any of my Heaffey Relations out there..
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John William, Jack and Catherine's father, was my great grandfather. Jack was his youngest child and Jack's second son Arthur was my father. Jack died when my father was a young child, and my grandmother Jack's wife Alice married again. I don't think my father knew much about his father's family and my grandmother Alice didn't like people knowing she had been married before! I was also born in December 1950 so we are cousins of some sort but no good at calculating second, third, removed etc. if you look at the Woodburn family tree on ancestry that might help you, I think my sister has made it a public tree so you should be able to view it.
I can't really tell you much more about John William and his wife Catherine that hasn't already been said on this site. He isn't always consistent about where he was born ie Ireland/London. Catherine always says she was born in Nova Scotia but I've never been able to trace her birth there, but I think that's probably because I don't know where to look. I think she's likely to have Irish ancestry, or even maybe Scottish. The name Harper certainly appears in both countries. Once married they then travelled with the army to many parts of the world, the West Indies first, where a couple of the eldest children were born. It's the Irish Ancestry that's so difficult to trace. I think Mallow, Doneraile and Castlepooke are all significant and if you Google Heaffey and Castlepooke in 1833 you should be able to read about the murders and trial. It's very interesting I don't know if they are direct ancestors of ours but I do think we are related to them. Heaffey is not a popular name in Cork where currently they seem to be know as the Cork Mafia! When we went there so taxi driver told us he wouldn't have picked us up if he had known that was our name! He was serious!
I really don't hold much hope of tracing the family back before the marriage of Catherine and John William in Halifax, Nova Scotia, but new records are added all the time so who knows maybe one day. Good luck and thanks for the information.
Di
Ps on Norah's workhouse records there were 2 children mentioned will have to look again but I think they had different names from the 3 you mentioned. I've also found Catherine's death record.
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Hi Di thanks for your reply. I have left all the information at my brothers house so I will check on the other names of Norahs children I know Uncle Bob(Robert) had other names, not sure about Mary... I did meet my Grandmother Norah but Mum lost touch with her in later years as she moved around a lot.... I will be in touch with you again as this is very exciting.. Regards Joan x
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Hi Joan
I did check last night one was Mary the other looks like Percival to me but of course that could be another name of Robert's. it is exciting because I now know I have lots of long lost cousins in the UK and possibly Australia. I will also forward all of this to my cousin Jane in Wales because she has been interested and she's the daughter of Jack my dads elder brother, although I don't think she has any more information than we already have.
I have 2 sisters Chris born in 1954 and Karen born in 1962. We have nominated Karen as the family archivist so she has all the paperwork!
Speak soon.
Di
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Hi Di. This is so exiting as my brother John & I have never known about Mum's side of our family...Now the start as far I we have gone back to the HEAFFEY'S is with William Heaffey born approx. 1780. He married Elizabeth Flyn a good Irish name.. They had a son James born: 12 March 1805 he married Catherine Hennessy another Irish name. They had a son John William born: 5 November 1826 he married a Catherine & they had William John born in Mallow 1848... It looks like my Great Grandmother was a twin to Arthur George as they were both born 1885 at Stoke Damerel Plymouth.... Yes my Grandmother Norah's first 2 children were Mary 1925 at St Pancres & Percival Robert 9th May 1926 also at St Pancres... We called him Uncle Bob.. He died in 1971 but I thought it 1972..... My Mum Peggy was born 8th Dec 1927... Looks like my Grandmother was a naughty girl as 3 children in 3 years & no known Father... All 3 were in orphanages till they left school... This is probably why Mum never knew anything about her Family as she said it was never talked about.....There is no record of Mary's death only her husband Alex in 1990 in North Surry... So looks like we are long lost Cousin Di.. How do we contact each other? I am on Face Book if you happen to be on that.... Now Jack my Uncle Bob looked very much like him as we have a picture of him from one of the ancestry sights its so amazing.... Hope to hear from you soon Joan
P.S. I was born 3rd Dec.......
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Hi
This is amazing - I'm really impressed that you've gone back further than we've ever managed to do with the Heaffey's in Ireland. We really had given up! Would love to get in touch via Facebook but not sure how we can do it as sure they won't let us swap too much information on this site, so try googling Facebook and Creakey crafts as I do craft fairs etc under that name that might get you to my Facebook site. Other than that a clue to your Facebook page would help me find you. I was born on 12 December in Hammersmith, but I don't live in London now. Did you manage to look at the Woodburn family tree on ancestry? The tree isn't called the heaffey family tree as my sister set it up and she decided to use my name
Ps I'm a bit of a novice as regards Facebook as I've resisted it until a couple of months ago when I succumbed as I felt it might help me promote my crafts!
Good luck with the Facebook search.
Diane W
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Hi again i have sent you a private message with my details i hope you get it ok Joan x