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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => London & Middlesex Lookup Requests => London and Middlesex => England => London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: mallow on Thursday 15 December 05 22:21 GMT (UK)
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Look up please for George Smith born 1891 St Annes Soho, London, District Westminster, or Brother Arthur born bewtween 1891 -1901 :)
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Found a George and Arthur Smith both sons of Eleanor Smith, the wife of a seaman... living in 1901 in St Pancras. and a third son Charles...
could this be your family?
Best wishes
Mo
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Thanks Mo that looks like my family, do they go back to 1891 looking for a bit more information on Eleanor Smith any name for husband, :)
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I couldn't find Eleanor on the 1891 sorry...
All the children were born after the census in 1891.. I have been hunting a marriage of a "Smith" to an Eleanore... so far no luck... will keep looking..
Best wishes
Mo
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Thanks again Mo, think Eleanor may have been called Maiden name( Badham)
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Do you have the birth certs for either Arthur or George Smith... should give fathers name...
Mo
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Hi Mo have birth cert for George, on it is stated that Georges Surname is Smith while his mother is Nellie Badham. In the colum for Fathers name there is none
does that mean that Gerorge was born outside Wedlock, we know he had brothers called Arthur and Charles what i am trying to do is find a name for the seaman who she married or any other relevant information like Deaths on Nellie, and the Husband I take it that Nellie is a shortened version of Eleanor. :) Thanks Mo
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Hi Mo any name for that seaman you found on 1901 census in St Pancras :)
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There is a marriage for a Helena BADHAM with one of the two possible spouses George Thomas SMITH 1892 see http://freebmd.rootsweb.com ???
Casalguidi
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Hi, I am also interested in George Smith Badham, as we suspect that he is my wife's Father.
We have a copy of his birth certificate, but no direct link to George Thomson Badham married to Louisa Binney in Dec 1912 (My wife's Mother & Father) we have a copy of the marriage certificate. Do you know where George Smith Badham was living at the time of the 1901 or 1911 census' ? Was his brother known as 'Smith' or 'Badham' ?
Hope you can help.
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Have an Eleanor in my family, the only time she was called Eleanor was on her birth certificate. On all censu returns, her marriage and death certificates she is known as Ellen.
Eleanor - Ellie. Nellie, Ell, Nell. Ellen, Helen and a myriad of other variatons (these are only the ones I have found in my family)
Gran: Mary Ellen, known as Nellie - but she spelt it Nelly and or Nellie. Only found out her full name was Mary Ellen when looking at the 1901 Irish census. No wonder I never found her birth under Ellen!!!!
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1901 - 35 Ossulston Street, St Pancras
Eleanor SMITH head mar 38 (husband seaman crossed out) b.Hackney
George son 9 b.Soho
Charles H son 5 b.Wood Grn
Arthur son 4 b.St Pancras
RG13/145 folio 35 page 62
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Arthur SMITH bp 18 May 1896 (born 1 May 1896) St Pancras son of George and Helena of 35 Ossulston Street, sailor.
Claris SMITH bp 1 Jun 1900 (born 30 May 1900) St Pancras parents George Thomas and Helena of 35 Ossulston Street, sailor.
Charles Henry SMITH bp Wood Green 8 Jul 1894 son of Helena and George Thomas of 2 Dagmar Terrace, Dagmar Road (seaman)
Casalguidi :)
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Rhoda SMITH dau of George and Helena of 35 Ossulston Street, Euston Road/children's hospital (sailor) bp 7 Jul 1899 (born 28 Mar) St George the Martyr, Queen's Square. Rhoda was admitted to Gt Ormond Street see http://hharp.org/ (very sad) :(
******** George Thomas SMITH (born 12 May 1891) son of George Thomas and Helena of 17 Prince of Wales Crescent (sailor) baptised Haverstock Hill Holy Trinity 29 Nov 1903 the same day as Nellie born 24 Aug 1903 *******
Also Louisa (same details as above) bp 21 Nov 1903 Haverstock Hill Holy Trinity (born 21 Nov 1903)
A bit of an oddity there with Nellie born August 1903 and Louisa born November 1903 though ???
Casalguidi :)
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Isp, do you know when/where your George BADHAM died to see if there are any clues there to connect him to the one born 1891 (baptised 1903)?
Is there any address on the 1891 birth certificate and has this been checked in the 1891 census?
Casalguidi :)
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Caselguida,
Thanks for your interest - to answer your questions:-
George Badham (my wife's Father) died in St.Albans, Herts in 1980
The addess on the birth certificate for George Smith Badham was Moor Street, London, but he was born on the 12 May 1891, after the 1891 census was taken. There is no trace at that address in the 1901 census.
Regards,
lsp
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Ok, so George BADHAM died 1980 St Albans registration district, Hertfordshire and his date of birth in the death indexes is given as 12 May 1891. This ties in exactly with
George Thomas SMITH (born 12 May 1891) son of George Thomas and Helena of 17 Prince of Wales Crescent (sailor) baptised Haverstock Hill Holy Trinity 29 Nov 1903 the same day as Nellie born 24 Aug 1903
as given above and thus the family at 35 Ossulston Street, St Pancras in the 1901 census :)
Casalguidi :)
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Thanks, yet again, I am very impressed with your knowledge and aptitude.
Regards,
David
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Firstly apologies for my lack of contact haven't done much research for some time as was out of action most of past year or so...
Found a reference in the 1891 to a Eleanor Badham Boarder in St Marylebone - this Eleanor born Boston Lincolnshire in c 1852,
If I can help more do get in touch
Best wishes
Mo
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sorry, this is completely irreleant to this topic, but I see you are searching the Sullivan family in Banbury,
this is where lots of my family are from, could you share any research with me? thankyou