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Title: JONES Family Living in America Cottage, Llansilin
Post by: julianne Rowsell on Tuesday 06 December 05 21:02 GMT (UK)
Hi i need some help if anyone can.

I need to find the following family.  I have them on the 1851 census living at america cottage, Llanisilin and the 1881 again living at america cottage.  I cannot find them on the census and would just like to know who was living at america cottage (sometime just america) in 1861, 1871, 1891 and 1901

1851 Census
45 America Cottage, Llansillin

David Jones, Head, 34, farm lab, Hinton Montgomeryshire
Jane, Wife, 31, Chirk Denbigh
Mary, Daug, 8, Llansillin
Elizabeth, Daug, 5, Llansillin
David, Son, 2, Llansilin

1881 Census
59 America Cottage, Llansillin

David Jones, Head, 64, Ag Lab, Montgomeryshire
Jane, Wife, 60, Salop Oswestry

next door at 60

Edward Jones, Head, 23, Llansillin
Catherine, Wife, 23, Salop Oswestry
David, Son, 11m, Llansillin
Title: Re: jones family living in america cottage, Llansilin
Post by: Arranroots on Tuesday 06 December 05 21:16 GMT (UK)
Hi

I am assuming you have access to the records.

RG10/2779/10/9

shows them living at Pentrecwm, Llansilin and a Thomas RICHARDS living at America.

kind regards, Arranroots  ;)
Title: Re: jones family living in america cottage, Llansilin
Post by: Arranroots on Tuesday 06 December 05 21:27 GMT (UK)
RG9/1876/9/11

Thomas ELLIS is living at America.

David & Jane JONES & daughter Jane, son Edward next door at Llainwen.

I wonder if they actually moved or the enumerator just got the houses muddled?  Also where are their other children in 1861?

A  ;)
Title: Re: jones family living in america cottage, Llansilin
Post by: Arranroots on Tuesday 06 December 05 21:43 GMT (UK)
I don't see a property named America in the 1891 census, but your Jane & David appear to be at "Bargale", Llansilin

RG12/2115/7/8

I hope I have the right couple each time - half the village is called JONES!!  ;D
Title: Re: jones family living in america cottage, Llansilin
Post by: Misssausagedog on Wednesday 15 November 06 20:29 GMT (UK)
Hello, I'm not sure if I can be of any help to you but America cottage is now owned by my partner. It has been in his family for generations and his mother spent her childhood there, Barbara Jones as did her father, John Oswald Jones (ossie) who is now 96. It becames Ossies house when his father died and he inherited it. If you need to know anymore info I'll be as helpful as I can.
Nikki
Title: Re: jones family living in america cottage, Llansilin
Post by: Arranroots on Wednesday 15 November 06 20:46 GMT (UK)
Hi Nikki

Welcome to Rootschat!  :)

That sounds like a very promising development - it sounds as though you have a connection there.

Please let us know (cos we are nosey!)

 ;D

kind regards, Arranroots  ;)

Title: Re: jones family living in america cottage, Llansilin
Post by: julianne Rowsell on Thursday 16 November 06 08:19 GMT (UK)
Hi

I actually remember coming up and meeting Barbara and Oswald, who i must say was looking very good for his age.  My Grandfather was Bertram Jones, whos father was Richard Arthur the son of Thomas Jones whos parents were David and Jane.  Thomas married Elizabeth Oliver.  Thomas was born in America cottage and at the time of his marriage was registered as living there. 

Barbara would have remembered us visiting as i came with my grandmother was is a stocker from shropshire.  I know that Barabara has done extensive research on our Jones side of the family and i would love to get in contact with her.  I did write a while ago but not sure if i had the correct address.

Hope to speak soon
Title: Re: JONES Family Living in America Cottage, Llansilin
Post by: sandra46 on Monday 15 October 07 17:21 BST (UK)
Hi just found your posts , my great great grandparents lived at America cottage llansillin 1n 1841  his name was Edward prodger his wife was mary, are the cottages still there is there any photos et or any information

best wishes sandra
Title: Re: JONES Family Living in America Cottage, Llansilin
Post by: Gadget on Monday 15 October 07 18:13 BST (UK)
Hi Sandra

I noticed this too  ;D

I've been Googling and found this site:

http://www.currysourlives.co.uk/image.php?CategoryID=2&ImageID=6987

Gadget
Title: Re: JONES Family Living in America Cottage, Llansilin
Post by: sandra46 on Monday 15 October 07 18:31 BST (UK)
how do you find these things?? thats good i have a photo trying to find an old map now of llansilin with wernduu cottage on and poss america cottage
Title: Re: JONES Family Living in America Cottage, Llansilin
Post by: Gadget on Monday 15 October 07 21:05 BST (UK)
Sandra - Wernddu is about 3-5 miles outside of Llansilin village. I put the map link on the other thread yesterday.

Gadget
Title: Re: JONES Family Living in America Cottage, Llansilin
Post by: Florence_o on Sunday 21 August 22 12:42 BST (UK)
Hi Everyone,

I was wondering if anyone would be happy for me to get in touch with them to find more information out about this wonderful hidden gem? I’ve seen it posted on a few news articles online but can never find out the real information of the place. I live 15 minutes from llansilin and my grandma used to live there, would love to be able to tell her some years and names to see if she knew anyone.

Many thanks,

Florence.