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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Berwickshire => Topic started by: middlemiss on Tuesday 06 December 05 00:32 GMT (UK)
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Looking for any information on William and Marjory Middlemiss married 1801 Duns. So far can only find 3 children - William, Isabella and James. Would love to go back further with this family but I am having trouble locating any more information on them. All I know is that they left Berwickshire area sometime before the 1830s and went to Perthshire.
Diane
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23 May 1801 William Middlemiss married Marjory White in Duns
http://homepages.ipact.nl/~robertson/ this is a site I found that may be interesting for you…
best wishes
Mo
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I have an Agnes Middlemiss married to george Claise (Clezy, Clazy, etc.) 2 June 1753, Coldstream...the Claise is my line and all its various spellings. The name William is carried throughout the line...
sharon
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Hi,
Did William, Isabella or James stay in Berwickshire and if so are you interested in info on them? If they are there in 1841 the census would help especially as it quite and unusual name in the area. There is a William Middlemiss married to an Isabella in Duns he is aged 30, does that seem right or did he move with his family to Perthshire?
Emma
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Dear Emma,
Thank you...Since I cannot locate anything more about either George or Agnes...then it would be logical that they moved and I have not looked at Perthshire. HOWEVER, in checking some older notes...there is a line that remained in Berwickshire until the death of the parents and the story was they moved "back home" to Perthshire!!
I have these loose ends floating around because I have been unable to prove that George and Agnes are the parents of the at least three sons, William, James and George who are at the top of the lines I have documented to date.
I will take a look at Perthshire...thank you again for jogging my brain!
Sharon
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I may confuse the issue but I went to school at the Berwickshire High School in Duns in the 1940's with Middlemiss brothers, Jim and Dave who lived in Lauder and I believe may still do.
I also knew a Billy Clazie who lived in Coldstream at the same time.
Boswells
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Billie Clazie is more than likely one of "mine" and the Middlemiss boys are probably related as well. One of the lines left in the early to mid 1800s but there were other children who I always thought remained. Any idea how to get in touch with Billie?
Thank you...
Sharon
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Sharon
I don't have any contacts left in Coldstream with email addresses. One man who would know would be Jock Law, Borders District Councilor who lives in High Street, Coldstream. You could also try him via the Borders District Council at Newtown St Boswells, Scottish Borders. If he is still alive he will be around 70.
Middlemiss and Middlemas are not all that uncommon in Berwickshire.
Regards
Alan
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My Middlemiss connections are not too far away in time or distance - I have Thomas Middlemiss who married Elisabeth Wood in 1842 at Lamberton Toll in East Berwickshire and who later lived at Foulden slightly further inland and nearer Duns, where they had a daughter with the rather unusual name of Hume Jeffrey Middlemiss in 1860-62. She married William Rae in 1892 at Foulden and they are both buried in the cemetery there, as I discovered only today on rootschat.
I can confirm that there are still members of the Middlemiss family living in Lauder and that there are others across the Scottish Borders - when I was a child all of our fizzy drinks were made/bottled by Middlemiss of Kelso.
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Middlemiss/mas is a common enough surname in this area of Berwickshire. I am friendly with one family and know another?
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Your line seems to be connected to similar names in the clazie, etc. lines! Do you know who Thomas' grandparents were?
sharon
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Yes, I have the same ancestor's as you Sharon. Agnes MIDDLEMIST was the daughter of James Middlemist and Isabell Young.
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Rick Heiser and Paul Fergie are teaming up in Berwickshire. Right now, Rick is in France....bicycling through Huguenot Country....
sharon
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My Middlemiss family moved to Perthshire sometime in the early 1830s?. They originally lived at Weetywalls near Duns around 1800s. The father was a coachman, but unfortunately on his son Williams death certificate the christian name was unknown.
Why they moved to Perthshire I do not know, may have been for work, father and sons were all hedgers - William, William and James.
If anyone has come across a Middlemiss as a coachman during the late 1700s I would most delighted to hear from you.
Thanks
Diane Middlemiss
Australia
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A marriage at Oxnam, Roxburghshire, 5 June 1732: James Midlemost and Isobell Young.
Despite the spelling difference, they seem to be the parents of Agnes Middlemist, who married George Claisye on 2 June 1751 at Coldstream.
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Hi, i am trying to find any information on a Agnes Middlemass,Middlemiss. She was the Grandmother of Jasper Stewart born 3/12/1861 Parish of Eccles.Mother was Helen Stewart,farm laborer. Apparently Agnes raised Jasper as he was illigitimate. Father was James Stark.The places,Mersington, Sprouston, Rumbleton have been mentioned. thanks.
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Agnes Middlemiss or Middlemist
christened 19 Jan 1735 at Kirk Yetholm
marriage proclamation 2 June 1751 at Coldstream to George Claisye or Clazie
died 3 Nov 1776 at Edrington.
She might or might not be the Agnes you are looking for - the same names kept getting repeated.
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Hi, thanks for the reply. I dont think its the same person as she would have died before Jasper stewart was born.He was born 3/12/1861 in Mersington. We cant seem to find any more info on Jasper or his mother Helen Stewart either.We have come to a bit of a dead end.She had him illigitimate and he has the same surname as his mother so i am wondering if the Agnes Middlmass name is on the paternal fathers side.Which was James Stark from Rumbleton. thanks for the help.There is alot of people named Agnes middlemass,middlemiss etc isn't there.
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Hi spacecookie,
If I have the right Census Jasper born c 1862 Eccles, Berwickshire is with DAVID/AGNES Stewart in 1871 down as their Son.
Highly unlikely as they are aged 66/62
1871 Census
Earlston, Berwickshire
David STEWART, 66, Formerly Ag Lab, born Roxburgshire
Agnes Stewart , 62, Wife, born Galashiels, Selkirkshire
Margaret Stewart, 13, Daug, Ag Lab, born Swinton, Berwickshire
Thomas Stewart , 20, Son, Ag Lab, born Makeston, Roxburghshire
John Stewart, 10, Son, Scholar, born Lintad, Roxburgshire
JASPER Stewart, 9, Scholar, born Eccles, Berwickshire
Agnes Stewart, 7, Neice, born Merton, Berwickshire
1861 Census
Linton, Roxburgshire
Dariel STEWARD, 50, Ploughman, born Roxb.
Agnes Steward, 48, Wife, born Linton, Selkirk
Jane Steward, 18, Daug, Ag Lab, born Minto, Roxb.
Alexander Stewart 16, Son, Ag Lab, born Coldstream, Berwickshire
Thomas Stewart, 10, Son, Scholar, born Makerston, Roxb
Charles Stewart 8, Son, Scholar, born Southdean, Roxb
Christina Stewart, 4, Daug, born Linton, Roxb
John Stewart, 1, Son, born Linton, Roxb
1851 Census we have in Roxburghshire;
Daniel Stewart 46, born Cavers, Rox, Ploughman
Agnes Stewart 38
Agnes Stewart 11
HELEN Stewart 10, born Sprouston, Roxb (as described on Anc.)****
Jane Stewart 8
Alexander Stewart 6
James Stewart 4
Mary Stewart 3
Thomas Stewart 7 Mo
Elizabeth DUFF 18
1841 in Sprouston, Roxburgshire we have;
Daniel STEWART, 25
Agness, 25
Agness, 1
HELEN, 4mths***
Trish :)
EDIT;
Agness STEWART Christened 17 March 1840, Gateshaw Associate Session, Morebattle, Roxburgh, Scotland
Parents, Daniel STEWART and Agness MIDDLEMOST
JOHN Stewart, 27 Aug 1859, Linton, Roxburgh to same Parents except Agness is Middlemist
+ CHRISTIAN, same details, 30 April 1856
(Familysearch.Org)
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I wonder if Father was James PARK?
1861 Census
Village Newton Hotel,
Melrose, Roxburgshire
Hanet RODGER, 49, Innkeeper
Caroline KNOX, 15, Neice
Harriett Knox, 14, Neice
HELEN STEWART, 20, Domestic Servant, born Bs, amallea (how its indexed)
James SMITH, 28, Servant, Hostler
JAMES PARK, 19, Servant, Post Boy, born Jedburgh, Roxburghshire
As we cant access the actual image maybe he is James Spark or the name is Park ?
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Hi, thanks very much for that info it sounds about right. They may have listed Jasper down as a son as it says that he was raised by his grandmother Agnes.The paternal father was James Stark of Rumbleton, Ploughman as we have the Paternity Declaration.thank you very much for your help.
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Hi spacecookie,
You will need to look in Selkirkshire for Agnes Chrsitening/ Parents :)