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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Tyrone => Topic started by: Quinn on Monday 05 December 05 16:34 GMT (UK)
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More and more as the family digs, we believe that we were most likely from Tyrone originally.
Family research has concentrated on Donegal, and yes there is a LOT of family there. But we are now finding connections to Tyrone, and we have come to the conclusion that this may be where many of our answers lie.
Is anyone connected to a Daniel Quinn family who would have come from possibly the area of Omagh in the 1750's or so? He would have settled in Ballinakillew Mountain area in Donegal.
Also, a Patrick Quinn from the same time period, who would have settled in the same area of Donegal.
John Quinn, same time, same information.
What we have found is that while we have so much family in the Ballintra/Ballinakillew Mountain area of Donegal, many members of the family (according to what the family has been told) packed everything up and moved "back home" to the area of Omagh.
Do you have some migrating Quinns from Tyrone who took off for Donegal in the 1700's?
Patty
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I have Quinns in Dullaghan, Dromore, Tyrone. However, I know of Quinns in Pettigo, Donegal. What is your time frame?
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Thanks for answering me! My time frame for Donegal is the time period of aproximately 1780- onwards to today. Daniel Quinn was removed from his farm in Ballintra in 1800.
My great grandfather James Quinn was born in Ballintra in 1828. He has a brother that was born in Rosilly Bar in 1814. Most of the descendants of the family still live in Ireland. We are one of a very few that ended up coming to America and stayed here.
So it would be ANY Quinn from this area of Donegal from about 1780 onwards to today. The family seems to have been widely scattered around the area of southern Donegal. They appear to have been moved, removed, and to have basically ran from one area to another.
Does that help any? If you've got a Quinn who lived anywhere near Ballintra, Laghey, Lisnapaste, Fintown, The Aught, Bondoran, from the 1780's onward, then we are probably talking the same family.
Patty
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Long shot, but thought I'd ask.
By any chance did your James Quinn move to Australia/New Zealand ?
Thanks and kind regards, Karen
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So far, the only Australian/New Zealand connection that has been found for my family has been through Alexander Falconbridge, the famous ship's surgeon on the coffin ships.
He married a Quinn, I believe it was a Catherine Quinn and they ended up in England for a while and then on to Australia.
Doesn't mean I still don't have part of the family that went there that we haven't found yet!!
Patty
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Well I'll tuck that info away and if I find out my James Edward Quinn (born circa 1836) is related to your Catherine..! heres hoping ....
You don't know the names of Catherine Quinns parents by any chance? Also, what was the name of the ship they saild on to Australia .... its another long shot but if you could tell me this I could do a look up to see if my Quinns were onthe same ship .... desperate times!!!
Thanks and kind regards, Karen
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We are not sure yet, but we believe this Catherine Quinn was most likely a sister to my great grandfather.
If she WAS, then her parents would have been John Quinn and Bridget Murphy. Recent information from the family says that John's name was actually either Patrick John or John Patrick Quinn.
I have the ship's name tucked into my paperwork somewhere. I will go looking for it and get it to you!
We DO know that the family originated in Tyrone, around Omagh, as a recently discovered cousin in Omagh tells me the following:
Her grandfather, Hugh Quinn, lived in Fintown, County Donegal. His grandfather had moved them there from Omagh. One day Hugh packed the family up and told them he was taking them "home" and they went back to Omagh, where that part of the family resides today.
My other cousins in Ireland also agree - that the family was originally from Tyrone, most likely around Omagh. They seem to have started coming down into Donegal, a few at a time, beginning around 1740-60 for the most part. And a bunch of them came to Donegal around 1780-90.
Patty
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Thanks for that Patty ....
I'll keep all those names safe and see if they cross with any ones I find for my Quinns ... I 'understand' my James Edward Quinn came from Tyrone .... but have no proof - so I'll just keep looking for that .... gosh, its so difficult and frustrating .. and I'm pretty much a newbie and still finding my feet!
Thanks again Patty .. many kind regards, Karen (from a bitterly cold snowing Ireland!)
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Karen, where are you in Ireland?
I heard it was supposed to snow there in the next couple of days - one of my cousins told me that you were expecting some bad weather!
Just curious - have you tired looking in PRONI for your James? They tell me they have a LOT of records on Quinn, but I can't pay the money they require for them to research for me.
Also, you might try the Donegal Heritage Centre. From what my relatives tell me, they have done massive research on the Quinn line, and have a lot of stuff on the family. The records cover Tyrone, too, from what I hear.
And to me, this gets confusing, but I am also told that the Tyrone Quinns descend from a separate and distinct line from the other Quinns. I know that if we get back far enough in time, we are all related, but the lines separate out into five distinct lines, from what I've been told.
Which, as I understand it, means we can't look at the line for the Earl of Dunraven and be able to get answers for our Quinns, because they are separate.
ACK! We ARE all related, if we get back far enough! Can't someone just give us the missing information and help us out??? LOL
Patty
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Hi Patty... I'm living in east Meath, beside the sea!! I'm originally from Dublin but have lived away for a number of years ..... Its so cold here today, I've flu and my children are both sick so, needless to say, its a bit miserable here!!...... where are you from?
I will look up those sites you mentioned... I really need to get myself organised, I've info. everywhere!.... I just need a massive whiteboard ..! I have to get the marriage cert for my Quinn from Australia and I'm hoping it will mentions his parents names .... then I'll have a better idea .... Do any of your Quinns come from a place called Pomeroy?.. I was there a while back and took some photos of Gravestones... which I must dig out and post to see if it helps anyone .....
Keep in touch!!! Thanks and take care, Karen
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I live in Southern Colorado in the states. And right now, I would be more than happy to take your snow and cold! It was close to 80 degrees here today, unheard of for February in the Rocky Mountains! (Well, not extremely unusual, but definitely out of the ordinary.) But we do have some dark clouds building up, so maybe something is coming our way.
Believe me, the white board won't work! LOL I bought a pad of very large drawing paper, it's 18 inches by 30 inches. Stuck a bunch of them together and tried to "plot out" the family lines and the connections to each other. Got lost about half way through it and I'm STILL trying to get it straightened out! LOL Your best bet would be to just do one whole room in white board all the way around!!
I have not run across Pomeroy as a place for my Quinns yet. Doesn't mean I won't though. We come up with another location all the time. Where exactly is Pomeroy, and that would give me an idea if they might have been in the area for sure or not.
Patty
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Hiya Patty,
Here's a map of Co. Tyrone showing the location of Pomeroy. http://www.countytyrone.com/tyrone_map.htm This site shows Pomeroy Roman Catholic Parish Records - Baptismal and Marriage Records 1869-72 www.from-ireland.net/contents/tyroneconts.htm
All the Best,
Chris
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Hello Patty! Hope you are well..
I've just received a marriage cert for my James Quinn - married Catherine Galway in 1866 in Ipwich Australia. It states his parents as:
James Quinn - Farmer
Catherine McSorley
It also states that he (James Jnr) was born in County Tyrone ..... so I'm assuming his parents (father at least) was from Tyrone and married before 1839......if you've any of the same names in your Tree, I'd be grateful if you could let me know.. At least I know have a County!! ;D
Kind regards, Karen
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Sorry - have been away for a while. I think that somewhere in my pile of stuff - I have the name of Catherine McSorley. I know it rings a bell with me.
I am wondering right now if your James Quinn and Catherine were from around the area of Omagh.
I'll dig a little and see what I can come up with.
Patty
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Hello Patty!
I've been away a while too. Love to know anything about your Catherine McSorley - I'm at a standstill with mine.
Hope you are keeping well, Take care, Karen
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here's hoping its my Catherine McSorley that Quinn has.
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Hope there is a connection to my g.g.g.grandfather Hugh Quinn
**Hugh Quinn born c.1778 in Drumragh, Omagh, Co. Tyrone.
died 1861 Clarendon, Quebec, Canada.
**His son Michael Quinn and wife Bridget Logan emigrated 1841-3 to Quebec also. My g.grandfather Patrick Quinn (Michael & Bridget) was born 1832 in Co. Tyrone likely around Omagh as well. Patrick was 10yrs old at the time of emigration and love to play football.
**Mary Quinn, Hugh's daug. and sister of Michael married Charles McCullough and had a daugh. Ann born also Co. Tyrone, same area.
**All were early settlers to Clarendon Township, Quebec.
Apparently like a lot of Catholic Quinns, Hugh was illiterate as documents show he could not sign his own name. He came to Canada having joined the British Army and stayed after the war of 1812 ended and received a 200 acre Land Grant in 1835. He apparently had to clear the land starting back around 1826.
**We Quinns still have the land in our possesion. We would love to contact any Quinns who may have information on these folks.
Thank you Frank
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Hi i'm A.D.baylis
I'm adopted but my fathers name was **** Quinn
(i belive every one says so and he diudnlt exactly deny it)
anyways we're the Quinns are from Coalisland Tyrone.
I'done a bit of reasech on the net
what i see is not what i'm hearing from here
this is what ive come acroo here
1 the Quinn's were th quatermasters of the O'Neil army and seemingly were a large part of the O'Neial caverlry up to 'the flight of the Earls'many left with them
2 Quinn comes from O'Coinn drived from Conn meaning wolf or noble hound.
3 the Conn in Quetion originator of the family name waS the grandson of a northen king Nial who was famed for Viking bashing (danes i belive the norwegian veriaty seed to get on with the locals) the name O'Higgins means son of the viking or yellow hair
4 at some point the family seat was at a place called DrumQuinn in Omagh (about 30 miles or so away.5 it is entirly possable that the clan had status before pre-dating Drumquinn
6 the Quinns of Thurmond are surpossedly dal cassians Brian Boru's(battle of clontaff) lot
7 in this major battle the O'Neil's refused to fight and sat on the hill and watched (a family despute over a marrige or apointment of a bishop. one of Boru's lot got the job .well they do tend to kiss --- better
the point being that they didn't get on well and no marrige or treaty was made
well that's it for now
PS we tend not to join the brits and never did from Coalisland area
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Pomeroy is just down the road from coalisland
these were townlands farms and alike pretty much a catholic area between Dungannon seat of the O'Niels (now mixed)and cookstown going the same way. This area has been very dinded during the 'troubles' and equally before. not much inter-marriage.
the area suffered alot during the famine and many families 'took the soup' changed their names and religion and begged for soup in english the lavery's (some) changed their names to Armstrong- lamh roi-strong arm (diriv.)
McSorely were afamed Gallowglas clan ie.1/2 viking and were seated around the S.E,donegal border Gall-forinner geal- friend)
A.D.
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Coalisland (Donaghenery formallyl
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Hi from Australia!
Our missing links are somewhere in the region of Dromore, Co Tyrone.
23/12/1853 William Quinn born abt 1826 marries Sarah McFarlane (also mis-spelled McFarland) born abt 1828 in Killskil Parish Church Dungannon.
13/08/1854 William and his very pregnant Sarah emigrate to Australia on the "Monsoon"
I have great coverage here in Australia - lots of cousins! -, but am at a complete standstill trying to take it back across the water. I've checked the IGI & other resources, but can't seem to catch a break.
Hints, tips, data or relatives all welcome and gratefully received. Cheers Kirstin
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Kirstin,
Statutory records of birth, death & marriage records started in Ireland in 1864 (1845 for Protestant and Non-Conformist marriages). Prior to that you are heavily dependant on church records, where they exist. In general, there are few records prior to 1800.
Some Irish BDM records are searchable on line on the LDS pilot site, but some records are still held by the individual church (some declined to allow their records to be copied) and so this website is not the complete picture:
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=allCollections&r=1
I can see the marriage of Wm Quin & Sarah McFarland on the site. Dungannon 1853 Vol 5, p 523. You can order a copy of the MC from GRO Roscommon. Ask for a research copy. Should cost €4. www.groireland.ie/ That may give you both father's names. (Not certain whether the very early certs do have fathers names) but in any case the cert should give you some additional data re addresses and witnesses.
After that you probably want to search Church of Ireland records. (I think the correct spelling of the parish is Killeeshil) For Northern Ireland, the Public Record Office (PRONI) has copies of many of the parish registers, and has a list of those held elsewhere. www.proni.gov.uk/
The records themselves are not on line and you need to search them in person (or get someone else to do it for you, since you are in Oz). PRONI is temporarily closed until April 2011 but there are temporary arrangements to view this data at Cregagh Library, Belfast. See PRONI website.
Elwyn
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Thanks a bundle! I've not used that search engine before - they all have their peculiar ways don't they? I have some practice ahead of me ;D but have just spent an enjoyable couple of hours searching for my missing links.
Anyhow, I found and will fax the order in on monday for the record you located and we shall see what else comes to mind form the evidence.
Thanks so much for your help - it is greatly appreciated.
Cheers Kirstin
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Don't know any McFarlane's BUT McPartland is very common in the coalisland area.
You must remember that a loe of records were written by english speakers who had no knowledge/intrest in Gealge and had trouble with the accent, hence misspellings and variations. My personall opinion is to always check for similar sounding names.
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I found this chat by happy accident... I have serveral Irish families coming to the American Colonies in early 1700s from
"TYRONE": QUINN, Hugh b 1723 md Margaret Fondren b 1730 son John b 1765 NC to SC then AL.
I'm new & have no idea what to do next. Thanks for any help. Joy
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Hi Fellow Quinn Family...
This may help & tie in to the posted Quinn inquiries.. I need help too!!
My Hugh b 1723 Ire -7 May 1798 York, SC & Margaret Fondren b 1728 Tyrone, Ire- Quinn md & had
1. Peter 11 Ap 1750 in Ire -29 Dec 1824 Holmsville, Pike, MS
then came to US of A probably VA in 1700s from Cookstown, Tyrone from Ancestry.com posts.
2. *Daniel b 1758 [Sr. later]
3. Mary Elizabeth b 1760 -1820
4. Hugh b 1763 Orange, NC md Jane Jennie Roberts @1790 York, SC
5. John b 1765 Orange, NC - d 1845 St Clair, AL md Elizabeth Morgan 1790 York, SC
[*Daniel ? 1758 or 1768 ?-1844 md Mary Morgan [brothers md sisters?]
Elizabeth Quinn md William Hood b 1777 NC
Elizabeth Quinn md William Hood b 1800 GA
in York Co, SC
1790 Cen
Daniel: M 1 16+, 1 <16 and 4 FM
to #5 John
1. Hugh A Quinn b 1791 York, SC md 8 Aug 1820 St Clair, AL to Vina Hood b 1801 GA
[Elizabeth Quinn b 1793 York SC md 19 Dec 1821 St Clair, AL Ausborn Hood b 1791 Green Co, GA- d 1860 Jefferson Co, AL]
John b 26 Oct 1796 York, SC - 20 Jan 1883
Cecelia Quinn b 1798 York, SC md Wm HC Hood b 1800 GA d 1885
Then all St Clair, AL
1. Hugh A & Vina Hood Quinn children
Anderson 14 July 1821 St Clair, AL
Noah Milton 1822, Sarah 1824, William Ambrose 1827, John G 1828, Burrell P [ Pickney or Peyton]
More later.. Thanks for your help, Joy B
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Is my Quinn family yours? Hugh Quinn was born in Ireland 1723. He married Margaret Fondren b 1730 Tryrone.
Peter was born Ap 1750 in Ireland.
The family came to Gran District, Orange Co, NC where Daniel 1758, Hugh 1763, John Hugh 1768, and Mary Elizabeth 1775 were born.
Hugh Quinn d 7 May 1798 and Margaret 1802+ York district SC
-My line is John Hugh Quinn [1768 NC-1840 St Clair, AL md Elizabeth Morgan 1765 York- 1840 in York District, SC.
son Hugh A 1791 York, SC -md Vina Hood 8 Aug. 1820 St Clair, AL. Their son Anderson 1823- md Sarah Payne 14 July 1841 Jefferson Co, AL.
I'm happy to share information & have more detail if you're interested & related. Joy
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