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I am looking for information on a Robert Fry born 1835ish a Baker living in Swansea married to Jemima, children Frederick, Robert, Harriet, Mary, Elizabeth there could be more children.
Thanks
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1861 census for starters:
RG9/4099/68/3 - Hafod Terrace, Swansea
Robert Fry Head 25 Baker b. Devon
Jemima Fry Wife 24 b. Devon
Jemima Fry Dau 2m b. Swansea
Ann J Howell Servant 15 b. Swansea
Rambler
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1871 census:
RG10/5448/115/58 - 42/43 Jersey St, Swansea
Robert Fry Head 33 Grocer & Baker b. Somerset
Jemima Fry Wife 32 Attending Shop b. Somerset
Mary Jane Fry Dau 8 Scholar b. Swansea
Jemima Fry Dau 7 Scholar b. Swansea
John Fry Son 2 b. Swansea
Elizabeth Ann Fry Dau 6wks b. Swansea
Mary Ann Davies Servant 19 b. Haydock, Carmarthenshire
George Hill Boarder 19 Baker b. Bridgewater, Somerset
Little Jemima born 1861 must have died young.
You can search the 1881 census free at http://www.familysearch.org.
Rambler
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1891 census:
RG12/4476/11/54 - 42/43 Jersey St, Swansea
Robert Fry Head 54 Baker & Grocer b. Clumstock, Devon
Jemima Fry Wife 53 b. (?)Upostory, Devon
Jemima Fry Dau 26 Assistant Grocer b. Swansea
Elizabeth Fry Dau 20 Assistant Grocer b. Swansea
Frederick J Fry Son 17 Assistant Baker b. Swansea
Harriet Fry Dau 14 Assistant Baker b. Swansea
Walter J Fry Son 9 Assistant Baker b. Swansea
1901 census:
RG13/5073/11/14 - 42 Jersey St, Swansea
Robert Fry Head 68 Baker & Grocer b. Coombe Stock, Devon
Jemima Fry Wife 67 b. Uporty, Devon
Walter J Fry Son 20 Grocer & Shopkeeper b. Swansea
Fry isn't a particularly common name in Swansea - if you search FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl, you can probably find the children's births and marriages.
Will try and find Robert in 1851 later!
Rambler
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I haven't identified Robert definitely in 1851 yet, but the IGI has 2 possibilities:
Robert Fry, son of Robert Fry and Ann, b. Culmstock, Devon, 1 Apr 1832.
Robert Fry, son of Thomas Fry and Jane, b. Culmstock, Devon, 24 Sep 1835.
These are extracted records, ie. copied from parish registers, and normally reliable. The second one is a better match for age, but I have only found the other one so far on the 1851 census. :(
The IGI also has a user-submitted marriage record between Robert Fry, son of Thomas Fry, and Jemima Trenchard, dau of John Trenchard, in Pitminster, Somerset,in 1860. User-submitted records vary in reliability, and the marriage date looks like an estimate, but I looked up Jemima in the 1851 census and found this entry:
HO107/1922/106/24 - Pitminster, Somerset
John Trenchard Head 61 Dairyman b. Dunkinwell, Somerset
Betty Trenchard Wife 57 b. [...]liscombe
Jemima Trenchard Dau 13 b. Upottery
Jonathan Oaten Son-in-law 21 Ag Lab b. Pitminster
Harriet Oaten Dau 21 b. Upottery
Janet Oaten G Dau 4m b. Pitminster
She would certainly fit the census details for Mrs Jemima Fry.
Just found a possibility for Robert, aged 13 and working as a farm labourer in Culmstock - index says Fay, but I read it as Fry.
Rambler
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Rambler
Thank you, you've been of great help.
Robert was the son of Thomas fry and Jane Trickey. (I can't find anything about theses two.)
That was one of the only pieces of information I had found. The other was that he had gone to live in Swansea. I knew of a Aunt Harriet and that was all.
The only brother that I can't find now is Thomas born 1830.
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This looks like Thomas and Jane in 1851:
HO107/1921/705/5 - Blackdown, Culmstock
Thomas Fry Head 52 Farm Labourer
Jane Fry Wife 52
William Browne Nephew 4
All born Culmstock.
1861:
RG9/1612/10/61 - Blackdown Gate, Culmstock
Thomas Fry Head 61 b. Culmstock
Jane Fry Wife 61 b. Hemyock
Rabert Fry Grandson 1 b. Culmstock
1871:
RG10/2365/20/7 - Blackdown Gate, Culmstock
Thomas Fry Head 74 Ag Lab b. Culmstock
Jane Fry Wife 74 b. Culmstock
Rambler