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Hi im looking for any McFarlane's I have information that surrey may be one area that may be relevant other than the trossachs in scotland. any help would be great :)
many thanks
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Claire:
What type of MacFarlane/McFarlane information are you seeking? If you can give me some names and dates I may be able to make a connection for you as I have a large collection of such data from around the world.
Terrance
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all the info i have is that george albert mcfarlane was born on 16 march 1916 and was registered in kingston and his mother maiden name was Tuck. I have different information that he was from originally from scotland but cant seem to trace his parents or other siblings. :-\
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Claire:
I am sorry to save that I have neither a George Albert M'F. nor a M'F. spouse surnamed Tuck in my data base. Please feel free to contact me at any time about MacFarlanes/McFarlanes.
Terrance
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Hello,
Would you happen to have anything on a Mary Ann Mcfarlane b. approx 1871.
she married Robert or Reginald Ames
her father was george mcfarlane (london dock work at some stage in life)
cheers
Tony Wright
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I am sorry to say that I do not have them in my files, but I have passed this along to another researcher who has said that he will look into it. I'll let you know what he says.
Terrance
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thanks
Tony
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Tony:
Andrew Macfarlane in New Zealand, who I asked to help with this, has just sent me a report (copied below). I hope it provides a little more information for you.
Terrance
Family Group Record for George McFarlane [MacFarlane]
Husband George McFarlane [MacFarlane]
Born:
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
Marriage: 22 October 1869 - Neilston, Renfrew, Scotland
Wife Elizabeth Marshall
AKA: Elizabeth 1
Born:
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
Children
1 M Mary Ann McFarlane [MacFarlane]
Born: 6 May 1870 - Abbey (Paisley), Renfrew, Scotland
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
Spouse: Robert (or Reginald) Ames ( - ) 2
2 M John McFarlane [MacFarlane]
Born: 2 July 1872 - Abbey (Paisley), Renfrew, Scotland
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
General Notes: Husband -
1 - 1881 British Census
Household:
Name Relation AgeBirthplaceOccupation
George MC FARLANE Head 40 Paisley, Scotland Foreman
Engineer Fitter At Iron Works
Elizabeth MC FARLANE Wife 42 Paisley, Scotland
Mary MC FARLANE Daur 10 Paisley, Scotland Scholar
John MC FARLANE Son 8 Paisley, Scotland Scholar
Source Information:
Dwelling 144 Victoria Street
Census PlaceNewton In Ashton Under Lyme, Cheshire, England
Family History Library Film 1341968
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4048 / 53
Page Number 21
2 - Mary Ann Mcfarlane b. approx 1871. Her father was George Mcfarlane (london dock work at some stage in life)
[Rootschat post 20 Aug 2010 by Tony Wright]
Last Modified: 20 August 2010
Sources
1. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1881 British Census (Copyright (c) 1999, 2002 FamilySearch (TM) Internet Genealogy Service,
August 30, 2004).
2. Rootschat (http://www.rootschat.com).
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Hi Terrance,
Can I be cheeky and ask for info as I too have a McFarlane line in my tree and wondered if you have anything in your database to connect to them? My latest link is Christine McFarlane c1843 Tarbert, Argyle parents Peter McFarlane and Catherine McLellan. Christine married Thomas Black in 1868 Johnstone.
Thanks
Jan
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Jan:
Your people sound familiar but I did not find them in a scan of my database. As I did for Tony, I shall ask another researcher to check his database for you.
Terrance
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Jan:
Once again Andrew Macfarlane in New Zealand has come through for us. His database has your Christine as "Cursty" which I take to = Kirstie for Christine. He will note her marriage to Thomas Black.
Terrance
Ancestors of Cursty McFarlane [MacFarlane]
First Generation
1. Cursty McFarlane [MacFarlane] [7029],,1 daughter of Peter Macfarlane [7017] and Catherine McLellan [MacLellan] [7026] was born on 4 April 1841 in Kilcalmonell & Kilberry, Argyll, Scotland.1
Second Generation (Parents)
2. Peter Macfarlane [7017],,2 son of Peter Macfarlane [7040] and Catherine Currie [7041] was born on 8 April 1808 in Glassary, Argyll, Scotland.2
Noted events in his life were:
• He has conflicting birth information of Cir 1813 and Tarbert, Loch Fyne, Kilcalmonell, Argyll, Scotland. 3
Peter married Catherine McLellan [MacLellan] [7026] 1 [MRIN: 2066] on 11 February 1837 in South Knapdale, Argyll, Scotland.1
Children from this marriage were:
i. Peter Macfarlane [7018] 3 was born in February 18392 and was christened on 13 April 1839 in South Knapdale, Argyll, Scotland.2 Another name for Peter was Peter McFarlane [MacFarlane].2 Peter married Janet Hay [7019] 3 [MRIN: 2067] on 21 February 1860 in Tarbert, Loch Fyne, Kilcalmonell, Argyll, Scotland.1
1 ii. Cursty McFarlane [MacFarlane] [7029] 1
iii. Catherine McFarlane [MacFarlane] [7028] 1 was born on 24 March 1850 in Kilcalmonell & Kilberry, Argyll, Scotland.1
iv. Dugald McFarlane [MacFarlane] [7027] 1 was born on 4 April 1852 in Kilcalmonell & Kilberry, Argyll, Scotland.1
3. Catherine McLellan [MacLellan] [7026],,1 daughter of Dugald McLellan [MacLellan] [7038] and Christian McLean [7039] was born on 23 December 18161 and was christened circa 28 January 1817 in Campbeltown, Kintyre, Argyll, Scotland.1 Other names for Catherine were Catharine McLellan [MacLellan] and4 Kett McLellan [MacLellan].1
Catherine married Peter Macfarlane [7017] 2 [MRIN: 2066] on 11 February 1837 in South Knapdale, Argyll, Scotland.1
Third Generation (Grandparents)
4. Peter Macfarlane [7040] .1
General Notes: IGI search for parents using naming pattern provides only one possible set but well outside locality.
Peter s/o John McFarlan & Isobell Stivenson b.4 Mar 1764, bapt.5 Mar 1765 Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland.
No Argyllshire returns for Peter s/o John +/- 10yrs of 1770. Glassary parish records started 1750 but neighbouring South Knapdale parish not until 1771, and Kilcalmonell & Kilberry parish the southern neighbour of South Knapdale didn't start records until 1777
Peter married Catherine Currie [7041] 1 [MRIN: 2072] on 26 February 1792 in Glassary, Argyll, Scotland.1
Children from this marriage were:
i. John Macfarlane [7043] 1 was born on 4 January 1793 in Glassary, Argyll, Scotland.1
ii. Mary Macfarlane [7048] 1 was born on 18 August 1795 in Glassary, Argyll, Scotland.1
iii. Donald McFarlane [MacFarlane] [7046] 1 was born on 20 July 1798 in Glassary, Argyll, Scotland.1
iv. Isabell McFarlane [MacFarlane] [7049] 1 was born on 22 January 1800 in Glassary, Argyll, Scotland.1
v. Duncan McFarlane [MacFarlane] [7045] 1 was born on 25 March 1801 in Glassary, Argyll, Scotland.1
vi. Margaret McFarlane [MacFarlane] [7047] 1 was born on 24 July 1803 in Glassary, Argyll, Scotland.1
vii. Cathrine McFarlane [MacFarlane] [7042] 1 was born on 7 March 1806 in Glassary, Argyll, Scotland.1
2 viii. Peter Macfarlane [7017] 2. Peter married Catherine McLellan [MacLellan] [7026] 1 [MRIN: 2066] on 11 February 1837 in South Knapdale, Argyll, Scotland.1
ix. Alexander Macfarlane [7050] 1 was born on 7 May 1810 in Glassary, Argyll, Scotland.1
x. Archibald Macfarlane [7044] 1 was born on 17 February 1813 in Glassary, Argyll, Scotland.1
5. Catherine Currie [7041] .1
Catherine married Peter Macfarlane [7040] 1 [MRIN: 2072] on 26 February 1792 in Glassary, Argyll, Scotland.1
6. Dugald McLellan [MacLellan] [7038] .1
Dugald married Christian McLean [7039] 1 [MRIN: 2071].
The child from this marriage was:
3 i. Catherine McLellan [MacLellan] [7026] 1. Catherine married Peter Macfarlane [7017] 2 [MRIN: 2066] on 11 February 1837 in South Knapdale, Argyll, Scotland.1
7. Christian McLean [7039] .1
Christian married Dugald McLellan [MacLellan] [7038] 1 [MRIN: 2071].
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Wow,
Thanks to you both, it's such a good feeling when a family line opens up.
All the best to you
Jan
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Thanks for this info on Mary Ann Mcfarlane
She is my great grandmother and married my great grandfather Reginald Ames.
Ironic the research came from a New Zealand researcher - as I live in New Zealand?
cheers
Tony
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actually i don't think this Mary Ann Mcfarlane (born Scotland) can be my one.
my mary ann mcfarlane is most likely:
mary ann mcfarlin born jun 1873 stepney ref 1c 451
in both the 1901 and 1911 census her birth place is listed as stepney.
on her marriage cert 1884 to robert ames she has signed with a 'x' so she most likely can not write - that is probably why we keep coming across numerous spelling variations for her name.
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Jan
I think we are related! I can also trace my family line from Peter McFarlane and Catherine McLellan, through Christina McFarlane and two generations of Peter McFarlane Black (Johnstone, Scotland), ending up in Cardiff, to where they moved in 1914.
Best Regards
Robert
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Dear Jan
Oh, dear, I cannot even read my own family tree correctly.
That should have read one generation of Peter McFarlane Black. He was born in 1871, in Johnstone, and married Sarah Logan in 1894. They had five children. The second Peter McFarlane Black was my uncle.
Robert
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Dear Chevalier
Thanks for your informative post, which I have been checking against my own records.
On my family tree, I have noted that the 1861 census shows a Jean McFarlane (Jane L McFarlane, born ~1845 in Kilcalmonell/Kilberry) living with the Peter McFarlane [7017] and Catherine McLellan [7026] family in Back Street, Tarbert Loch Fyne. You do not mention her. Do you think she would have been a relative or an unrecorded daughter? Are there any clues in your data?
Peter and Catherine died of cholera in 1854. The children survived and, I believe, were brought up by the Hay family, then Peter McFarlane [7018]/Janet Hay [7019], who you mention.
There had been several outbreaks of cholera in the region at that time and over the previous decade. The real tragedy is that bleaching power, a portable form of chlorine, still sometimes used to treat water in remote areas, had been available since 1800 from a factory in Glasgow. I think they just did not realise at that time that cholera was a water-borne disease.
Best Regards
Robert
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Hi Robert,
I have Peter McFarlane BLACK's birth as 23 Nov 1870 in Graham Street, Johnstone. His marriage to Sarah Duffy LOGAN on 20th April 1894 at Quarrelton Road, Johnstone, and three children Thomas 1894, Henry 1898 and Christina 1901.
Thomas and Christina I can trace to Cardiff and have their burial together with their parents, Henry I have nothing on at all!
Thomas BLACK 1894 is my husbands great grandfather. Christina 1901 never married and looked after her mother Sarah right up to her death in 1970 at the fabulous age of 90, Christina died the following year. The family remember Sarah very well, and it is of note that she hated Wales/Cardiff - calling it "a grimey town".
If Peter 1870 was your uncle does that mean that you are descended from Henry or one of the two children I don't yet know about? I can't wait to hear back from you and fill in some of the blanks, but I may be a little slow at replying for a few days as I am away from home until Monday and then straight back into work on Tuesday.
All the best to you
Jan
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Dear Jan
I can understand your confusion, compounded by my error over the two Peter McFarlane Blacks.
Peter McFarlane Black (1870) and Sarah Duffy Logan (1871) had five children, not three. They were: Thomas, Christina, Henry Logan, Peter McFarlane and Mary Craig Steel (1910-2005). Mary was my mother. There was quite a wide span in the children’s ages, such that Tom’s son, also called Tom, and my mother were of a similar age and grew up together.
I am in touch with all of the current descendents of the family, apart from the branch starting with Thomas (1894), to which you are linked - so am very interested in swopping information! A Personal Message has my contact details.
Best regards
Robert
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Thanks Robert
I have emailed you.
Jan