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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (East Riding & York) => Topic started by: tulstig on Sunday 27 November 05 13:00 GMT (UK)
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Does anyone know anything about the Sheffield Arms pub on Hessle Road, Hull?
It's no longer there, but was run by close rellie around 1914-17.
Apparently she used to serve early tipples for the Dockers. Topic came up because of recent change in licensing laws.
Any info'd be great,
Mark
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There's a book on old Hull pubs which someone might have. If not, I'll see what I can do in the library at the weekend.
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Thank you. :)
This was new info that came to light today - bit of the murphy's law of genealogy again.
Look forward to hearing more,
Cheers again, :)
Mark
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Hello Mark,
I've had a look on the 1912 Kellys trades directory of Hull and it doesn't seem to be listed in there.
I've also had a look in Hull Pubs and Brewies (Images of England, 2005) and it's not it there either.
Over to you Sutton Trust.
Ian
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The only pubs listed in the directory for 1912 on Hessle Road are as follows,
Criterion Hotel -222 Hessle Road.
Henry Wilson - wine and spirit merchants 220 Hessle Road.
Ruddock and Sons - wine and spirit merchants 464 Hessle Road.
Locomotive Hotel - 640 Hessle Road
Star and Garter - 325 Hessle Road
Walter Bell (beer retailer) 105 Hessle Road
Vauxhall Travern - 1 Hessle Road.
Ian :)
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Thanks Ian, :D
Will re-check with 'mother-in-law'. any pubs nearby with same/similar name? I know if I go back to her and say no pubs called the sheffield arms on Hessle road she'll say ' but no I said ......!!' ???
Thanks :)
Mark
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Mark,
I've just had a look under the Trades listings (Hotels and Public Houses) and there isn't a pub by the name of Sheffield listed in hull at that time. Maybe it had another name and was knowen locally as Sheffields (as in the case of the Star and Garter that is known as Raynors after a previous landlord).
Ian
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Thanks Ian,
Will check info as soon as,
Mark
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I was looking at this at the week-end - I did find the following by 'Googling' for Sheffield Arms Hessle Road.
from http://www.hullwebs.co.uk/content/l-20c/city/hessle-rd/post-war.htm
"All of the Hessle Road churches, except the City Temple, have been demolished. The first to go was St. James church which was demolished in 1958 as the surrounding streets were pulled down. Tramcars were replaced by the trolleybus (service 70) in 1945 and the modern motorbus (service 73) around 1960. A large number of the Road's public houses have survived. Amongst those demolished are; Rose Tavern, Lilly Hotel, Rifle Tavern, Sheffield Arms and the Locomotive Hotel - ironically demolished when the Hessle Road railway flyover was build in 1961/62."
Also like in your other replies; I could not find the pub mentioned in Kellys directory of Hull available via http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/findbylocation.asp
regards John
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Thanks John, ;D
Though perhaps I'd misheard the conversation, or got a name wrong again.
Anyone any idea if there'd be any pictures/ photos anywhere. A trip to Hull is on the cards just before Christmas, so amy be able to check someting out then.
Cheers,
Mark
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Hi
http://prismdata.hullcc.gov.uk/gallery/albums.php type Sheffield Arms in the search and it comes up with caption number 1556 which is a picture of the pub.
Bee
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Hey Bee,
:D
That's great,Thank you. What a wonderful site. also found some other pics of the relevant past.
So Sutontrust if you want t ogive th elibrary a miss and christams shop instead loks like you're off the hook.Thanks for the very kind offer. However, if you're going &find more info that's great too.
;D ;D
Mark
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Hello Mark,
I've had another look in the 1912 and the 1913 Kellys Directories and 62 Hessle Road is listed as the following
Andrew Thomson - beer retailer.
And the 1936 directory lists the following;
Wm Hardy Whitakker - beer retailer.
Strange that there is no mention of the Sheffield Arms.
Ian
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hi. the Sheffield arms was inStrickland Street Hessle Road.Hull.i have been in there, it was demolished after second world war,i lived on Hessle Road.
landgirl
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Hi Landgirl.
Thanks for additional info. What a shame so much of our heritge is knocked down.
Mark
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hi. the Sheffield arms was inStrickland Street Hessle Road.Hull.i have been in there, it was demolished after second world war,i lived on Hessle Road.
landgirl
maybe the one in Strickland Street was a later version as the photo of Sheffield Arms on the Hull archives site gives the pub the address of 62 Hessle Road.
Bee :)
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Thanks Bee,
Was a bit confused as Mother in law insists it was on Hessle Road.
Chers,
Mark
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The Sheffield Arms was definitely on the main Hessle Rd, not Strickland St. It was opposite the Smith and Nephew factory on Hessle Rd and was situated in the vicinity of the later Pheonix Club, which was itself knocked down to make way for the Clive Sullivan Way entry Rd off Hessle Rd circa 1985. The pub was very popular in the 2nd World War years when my mother was one of 5 sisters who were regulars at the pub during those heady years. Mums maiden name was Gladys Smith and her sisters were Annie, Lizzie and younger sisters Elsie and Gertie. Mum said every night was a party night in "Sheff" despite the nightly bombing raids, then afterwards they would party back in Wassand Street where they all lived. Apparently the war years were not doom and gloom all the time. lol
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An image here too:
http://www.lordline.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=759
Xarol
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hi. the Sheffield arms was inStrickland Street Hessle Road.Hull.i have been in there, it was demolished after second world war,i lived on Hessle Road.
landgirl
Land Girl, you are right there was a pub down Strickland St, It was and still is called the Strickland Arms and its still there today. The only Sheffield Arms was the one previously mentioned which is on Hessle Rd itself. This area of Hessle Rd were "Sheff" once stood was first built up well before Strickland St was built. As you are alive today the only pub you could have entered down Strickland St was the Strickland Arms. The Sheffield Arms on Hessle Rd was demolished in the late 60s. The Strickland Arms has stood with that name for over 100 years. It was present during the 1911 census records. I think this has to be the pub you went in when you lived on Hessle Rd. If you can remember another pub by the name of Sheffield Arms down Strickland St that you believe was demolished just after the 2nd World War, that would mean there were 2 pubs of the same name just a stones throw from each other as the Sheff on Hessle Road was definitely standing at that time. There is no record in the 1911 Census of a pub called the Sheffield Arms standing in Strickland St.
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An image here too:
http://www.lordline.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=759
Xarol
Thank You Treetotal........Brilliant !!
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The "Stricky Arms" and earlier..The Strickland Arms
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2709971
http://www.lordline.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=198
Carol
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Hello there
I've just noticed that a post card of the Sheffield Arms has just made an appearence on a certain internet auction site, the item number is 200861865005.
It may be of interest to you.
All the best
Simon
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Thanks Simon, appreciated.
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My great grandparents ran the Sheffield arms pub around 1917 at a guess. I have a photo of my grandmother and her siblings i.e. Mary, Mona, Joan and John Smith and it says Sheffield Arms, Hessle Road on the back. As the youngest was born 1916 and looks a little over one I am guessing it's 1917 they also ran the White Hart (not sure if it has an e i.e. Harte)
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Hi Jane and welcome to Rootschat...what a lovely photo...thanks for sharing.
Carol
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Hi try this
www.lordline.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=759
Regards Brian
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Refer to reply #21
Carol