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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (North Riding) => Topic started by: katiebee on Saturday 26 November 05 04:14 GMT (UK)
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I have a Wellburn Ringrose married to an Ann Bannister in 1810 in Driffield. Ann Bannister had a son, George born in 1809 and his children have as second names "Ringrose" or "Hill". He married a Mary Hill so this tells me that his father was Wellburn Ringrose. These children were born at Foxholes. Is anyone researching this family? I know that the Bannister family had a tailor shop in Rudston in the 1800's before they came to Canada. Would appreciate any help on where Ann came from and any info on the rest of the family. Karin
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On the 1851 census there is an Ann Ringrose born Foxholes
HO 107 2368 folio 90
Flixton Yorkshire
Ann Ringrose aged 72 born Foxholes, Yorkshire, Head Widow Farmer's widow
Thomasin Johnson 45 born Brampton, Yorkshire, House Servant
Balanced against that George Bannister on the 1851 census born circa 1810 Driffield is a shoemaker with his wife and four sons in Foxholes with Boythorpe.
While Welburn Ringrose born circa 1821 in Driffield is a lodger in Kirby Grindalythe and also a shoemaker. It seems unlikely shoemakers would have a father who was a farmer.
Regards
Valda
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Thank you for the info from the 1851 census. I did not have this before. I haven't been able to find "Ann" except for the birth of George in 1809 and marriage to Wellburn Ringrose in 1810. I have info on "Wellburn". There are also some Ringrose children.Wellurn Ringrose Bannister, son of George Bannister and Mary Hill[grandson of Ann] married Milcah Lamb and this was my husband's great grand parents. They were tailors in Rudston. Karin
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In case you are interested in the Welburn Ringrose side, he was the son of Dorothy Welburn b1738, Sherburn and Jonathan Ringrose b1736, Helperthorpe, baptised 12/4/1778, Sherburn. Ultimately you can trace the Welburn line back to Christopher Welburn ~1680. No info on the Bannister side as coming down from the Welburn line.
SATony
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It seems unlikely shoemakers would have a father who was a farmer.
Regards
Valda
I mainly agree with this where large estates were kept intact excepting for when younger sons were awarded some land on the periphery of the estate to farm. The land one of my ancestors had couldn't be divided further and many cousins in the next generation 1851 onwards had a diversity of occupations ranging from potter, shoeshop owner, cutler, and even miner earning more money than he could possibly earn on the land. If the apprenticeship records of the shoesmith trade still exist the father's name is probably recorded and how much he paid to whom for the apprenticeship training.
Rena
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1841 census HO107 1214/4 folio 4 page 2
Folkton Yorkshire containing the village of Flixton
George Ringrose 35 Yorkshire Farmer
Ann Ringrose 65 Yorkshire Ind.
John Ringrose 30 Yorkshire Ind.
Ringrose Hudson 3 Yorkshire
plus 1 female servant
1851 census HO107 2368 folio 82
Flixton and Scarborough Road Flixton Yorkshire
George Ringrose 50 Flixton, Yorkshire, Head Married Farmer of 763 acres employing 12 labourers
Margaret Ringrose 32 Scarbro, Yorkshire, Wife Married
Ann Ringrose 6mths Flixton, Yorkshire, Daughter
plus 12 servants
This Flixton group of Ringroses (there are others than those given), near Scarborough, seem of a socially higher status to the Great Driffield Ringroses further south.
1851 census HO107 2369 folio 45
Kirby Grindalythe Yorkshire
Welburn Ringrose 30 Driffield Lodger Unmarried Shoemaker
1851 census HO107 2366 folio 584
Foxholes with Boythorpe Yorkshire
Geo Bannister 41 Driffield, Yorkshire, Head Married Shoemaker
Mary Bannister 41 Langtoft, Yorkshire, Wife Married
Thos Bannister 11 Foxholes, Yorkshire, Son
Francis Bannister 9 Foxholes, Yorkshire, Son
Geo Bannister 6 Foxholes, Yorkshire, Son
Godfrey Bannister 2 Foxholes, Yorkshire, Son
1841 census HO107 1214/11 folio 7 page 9
Foxholes Yorkshire
Geo Banister 30 Yorkshire Shoemaker
Mary Banister 30 Yorkshire
Sarah Banister 8 Yorkshire
Whelbourn Banister 6 Yorkshire
Ann Banister 4 Yorkshire
Thos Banister 1 Yorkshire
Cant's see Welbourn Ringrose junior on the 1841 census but his sister Ellen is still unmarried in Driffield.
1841 census HO107 1217/2 folio 8 page 2
Driffield Yorkshire
Ellen Ringrose 25 Yorkshire female servant
No sign of their parents.
Regards
Valda