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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Derbyshire => Topic started by: carol59 on Saturday 04 September 04 09:46 BST (UK)
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I am trying to find out info about Waspsnest Brickworks in Brampton, Chesterfield around the 19thc. my ancestor lived at Waspsnest and may well have worked there. if anyone knows of any possible sources of info for Waspsnest Brickworks i wd very much appreciate hearing from them.
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Carol,
Having ancestors from Brampton this is interesting and I gues the place will be the Records Office at Matlock. Have you googled?
rob
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Hi Rob
I did google and found a very nice old map of Brampton on the JMJ Pottery website which is incorporated into their history of Brampton pottery. The map has Waspsnest and the Waspsnest brickworks marked on it. that is when i found out that there was a brickworks there, unfortunately the map didnt appear to be dated but it has whetted my appetite to find out more about it. as you say, i may get something from the records office.
If you havent already seen the map you may well find it interesting if you have ancestors from there.
by the way noticed that newbold is one of your research names, there was a Thomas Newbould who was a witness at my ancestor Richard wildman/wilemans marriage in 1839 at St Peters in Brampton. believe the newboulds were a brampton farming family? richard married Milly Fisher who i believe came from a local farming family also so there may be a connection.
Carol
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Hi Carol,
My newbolds are down the South on the Staffs borders but thanx for the thought. I hadn't found the map and it is interesting that they are in the pottery works which is where one of my GAGAING (5th Great Grandad) worked as a pot burner in 1861
rob
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hello,
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Hello,
I work at a papermill at Brampton,and the site contains lot,s of broken pottery, supposedly from Pearsons pottery well known Chesterfield pottery, but I wonder - the site lies in the middle of brampton on the old Robinson and Sons works, if this is any help.
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Waspnest Brickworks was on Old Hall Road and was established c1909.
Founded by two builders Edward Silcock & Edwin Hattersley & Arthur Heath, A Joiner and Arthur gibbons, a Butcher.
In 1934 it was taken over by theChesterfield Brick Co, which seemed to be the old company reformed, They ceased trading in the mid 40s.
Omskirk
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A primer for information about the Wasp's Nest pit might be Mr Bridgewater's site at:
http://www.abridgewater.freeserve.co.uk/New/Ashgate.htm
Most mining operations need brickwork. I am not a specialist, but I gather the geology of this neighbourhood provided both soft and hard (.e."engineering") bricks.
An introduction to the New Brampton neighbourhood and genealogy might be:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DBY/NewBrampton/index.html
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You're quite right John, I live in Brampton and the whole area is built on various types of clay, there were many brickworks and potteries around here in the 1800s.
A primer for information about the Wasp's Nest pit might be Mr Bridgewater's site at:
http://www.abridgewater.freeserve.co.uk/New/Ashgate.htm
Most mining operations need brickwork. I am not a specialist, but I gather the geology of this neighbourhood provided both soft and hard (.e."engineering") bricks.
An introduction to the New Brampton neighbourhood and genealogy might be:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DBY/NewBrampton/index.html
:D
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Thanks Omskirk and John for that most interesting information.
Omskirk - if you are a brampton man i may pick your brains for further info in due course. as a number of my distant and recent ancestors lived there.
Best wishes Carol
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Dear Carol,
Be aware there is Old Brapton & New Brampton, your St Peters is in Old Brampton which is about two miles up the road from New Brampton, the Church for New Brampton is St Thomas, I'll help if I can.
Omskirk {not my real name}
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Hi Carol, Don't know if this is too old, but I lived in Brampton until I was 15. My great uncle was Arthur Heath, the builder.
I have a dim recollection of brickworks as you go towards the town centre from Brampton. This would have been late 1940's
Regards
Terry
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Google map---Baycliffe Close, Ashgate, Chesterfield. To the right of Baycliffe, there is a cul de sac. There are houses there now but that is where the brickworks were.
The green area beyond is The Inkerman - the site of the quarry.
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I lived in Ashgate Avenue until 1957 and I remember, now you have jogged my memory, there was a brickworks with a tall chimeny over the field at the bottom of our garden.
The Inkerman was at the left corner of the field and there was a footpath leading alongside the Inkerman to Ashgate Road. You can see that, although the Inkerman has been filled in, Inkeman Cottages remains.
I would put the brickworks around the south end of the field which remains, just east of what is now Rockingham Close. Looking from our garden the Inkeman was out of sight far left, probably 150 yards from the bottom of the garden. We kids used to play in that field which is now the housing . Direct in front over the field was the quarry used for the brickworks, without water.
If I unlock any other memories I will post.
Terry
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Reading these posts from the beginning I assume that personal info is required as to a person possibly working at the brickworks. That is doubtful unless of a management position etc.
You could make general enquiries to the British Brick Society, Enquiries Secretary. 250 plus members up and down the country may be able to help. Are members at Penkridge and Stoke-on-Trent.
PM me for email of Enquireies Secretary.
KimH
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I lived on Old Hall Rd, Brampton near Pearsons Recreation Ground which is opposite Manor Rd. The top end of this section of road continued as a footpath and the Wasp Nest brick kiln was to the right. I remember seeing men removing freshly made bricks and believe it was still operating till 1956. The top end of the footpath came out on the 2nd section of Manor Rd. Although I am using past tense, I think the road and footpath layout is still the same, but the brick kiln site and Inkerman quarry have gone. Pearson's Brampton pottery was at the far side of the recreation ground.
Grangewud
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Waspnest Brickworks was on Old Hall Road and was established c1909.
Founded by two builders Edward Silcock & Edwin Hattersley & Arthur Heath, A Joiner and Arthur gibbons, a Butcher.
In 1934 it was taken over by theChesterfield Brick Co, which seemed to be the old company reformed, They ceased trading in the mid 40s.
Omskirk
Arthur Heath was my great uncle. When I was a child in the late 40's and early 50's he ran a building company. He employed my father, his nephew, until his (my father's) death in 1957. Athur Heath lived in Old Brampton, although his brother Godfrey (Goff) Heath lived in Brampton. He was a cabinet maker/joiner and he worked as such for the Brampton Brewery.. Terry Heath
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Just barging into you Brampton folks.......I have the parish Records for both Old Brampton and for Brampton St Thomas..and a whole lot more elsewhere in Derbyshire. if you need any help from them.
Derek.
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Thanks for the offer. Personally I,ve been researching Derby city in the 1700s recently but made no progress.
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Hi Just joined the site. I was looking around the dark corners in my garage today and found a Brick with Brampton indented in it, I live in Chesterfield but am at a loss as to where the actual brickworks were, despite marrying a Brampton lass.
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How interesting! I have never come across a' Brampton' brick; I've no idea where they were made. Wasp Nest bricks were marked as such.
Of course, there are other Bramptons in the country- perhaps it was found elsewhere and brought here as coincidence.
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There was a small wall at the bottom of my garden which I dismantled some years ago, just stored the bricks for future use and forgot about them. when I started to move them around I came across this brick with Brampton on it. Is there anywhere I can take the brick to get it authenticated?
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Local Studies at Chesterfield Library might be able to help.
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Thanks I'll give it a go, did wonder about the local museum but dont know if they could help.
Interesting area of chesterfield brampton is, all sorts of things going on there in bygone years, a hive of activity.